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2017/11/23 15:59:50
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Sword-Bearing Inquisitorial Crusader
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edited for politeness
Crimson wrote:Yes. Only chainsword in the upgrade kit. They're really going to disallow BA Intercessors from taking power swords.
The only way I can see this at all being semi-logical from gw's perspective is if they intend for BA to be the "chainsword" guys, and gives us rules that boost our performance with these weapons indirectly.
I don't think thats whats happening here though. I think they hate us.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2017/11/23 17:04:16
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2017/11/23 19:26:39
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Chainswords aren't necessarily bad weapons. Statistically they are better against horde armies. Aren't they pretty cheap too?
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2017/11/23 19:44:15
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Courageous Space Marine Captain
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cuda1179 wrote:Chainswords aren't necessarily bad weapons. Statistically they are better against horde armies. Aren't they pretty cheap too?
I think they currently are free. But Power Swords are four points, so I'd gladly pay that, it is massively better against any foe with proper armour. And in any case, it would really make no sense to deny a close combat oriented chapter this weapon when everyone else can get it. But let's hope they've come to their sense and the option exists in the codex.
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2017/11/23 22:51:20
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Crimson wrote: cuda1179 wrote:Chainswords aren't necessarily bad weapons. Statistically they are better against horde armies. Aren't they pretty cheap too?
I think they currently are free. But Power Swords are four points, so I'd gladly pay that, it is massively better against any foe with proper armour. And in any case, it would really make no sense to deny a close combat oriented chapter this weapon when everyone else can get it. But let's hope they've come to their sense and the option exists in the codex.
Hypothetically here, who's to say it's actually a chainsword? What if BA Primaris marines have their own special version. Something like, +2 attacks, -1 AP? I'd buy that for a dollar.
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2017/11/25 03:37:13
Subject: Re:Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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So...rumor has it that Death Company are getting the Khorne Berserker Pile-In-Twice ability. Yay?
Also, I sincerely hope they decreased our special pistol prices to be the same as Sisters of Battle. I really want to run an Assault Squad with Inferno Pistols and not have it break the bank.
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2017/11/25 05:03:06
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Death Company with the Berserker rule would be awesome and make sense
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2017/11/25 05:12:45
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Absolutely. They are supposed to be relentless. And that rule fits them perfectly. I would totally be on board with the Black Rage being that rule rather than +1 Attack.
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2017/11/25 06:41:30
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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I've been quietly wondering if the Death Company would get the fight twice rule a-la khorne berserkers.
The Death Company are the closest analogue to the Berzkerers on the Imperium side, with the added benefit of having the jump pack option, as well as the added resiliency/wound ignoring capability of the Black Rage.
I can see it happening, but I'm not sure how loud the Chaos players would moan about the DC getting the fight twice ability in addition to being more mobile and at least slightly tougher with the additional would ignoring save roll (which I suspect will remain at 6+, though I hope it drops to 5+ for the Death Company as it was in the previous edition).
I expect we'll be getting rumors in the next two weeks for both Blood Angels and Dark Angels in the lead up to Christmas. My foot's getting tired from all this tapping, though, I freely admit.
Take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
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2017/11/25 07:16:27
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Humming Great Unclean One of Nurgle
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Red__Thirst wrote:I've been quietly wondering if the Death Company would get the fight twice rule a-la khorne berserkers.
The Death Company are the closest analogue to the Berzkerers on the Imperium side, with the added benefit of having the jump pack option, as well as the added resiliency/wound ignoring capability of the Black Rage.
I can see it happening, but I'm not sure how loud the Chaos players would moan about the DC getting the fight twice ability in addition to being more mobile and at least slightly tougher with the additional would ignoring save roll (which I suspect will remain at 6+, though I hope it drops to 5+ for the Death Company as it was in the previous edition).
I expect we'll be getting rumors in the next two weeks for both Blood Angels and Dark Angels in the lead up to Christmas. My foot's getting tired from all this tapping, though, I freely admit.
Take it easy.
-Red__Thirst-
If they do complain just mention alpha legion turn-1 charging and that should shut them up.
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2017/11/25 07:27:59
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Tell you what DC should have: reverse morale. That is, they should have a relatively low Ld but take Morale checks in turns when they don’t take casualties, or are not in close combat, and not take checks when they do, to represent the rage overwhelming even their superhuman metabolisms and incapacitating them before they can find the blessed relief of death.
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2017/11/25 07:50:28
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Dakka Veteran
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Nothing screams fun like your opponent not having to kill your models because they kill themselves. It could help sell more Rhinos and Razorbacks I suppose.
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2017/11/25 10:54:30
Subject: Re:Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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In other news, the Blood Angels Lieutenant, Lieutenant Tolmeron, is supposed to have a range of options. I am curious what they mean by that. Perhaps a bare head, maybe a different arm, perhaps with a pistol. Maybe the Power Sword can be exchanged for a a Chainsword.
I must say though, the BA Lieutenant just having a regular Veteran helmet is a bit disappointing. My BA Lieutenants are going to have Red Helmets with a Gold stripe. Perhaps with a Gold and White stripe.
The image of the Dark Angel shows him with a helmet. The Blood Angels images show nothing new, which is disappointing.
NM: You can see the base of the BA LT with no helmet. So that is confirmed.
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2017/11/25 13:30:08
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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Seems to be leaked pics from the WD popping up all over the place, any more found with info about the BA dex or mini?
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2017/11/25 15:03:57
Subject: Re:Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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No Primaris Death Company.
Yet...
Also, BA Data Cards and BA Dice confirmed.
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2017/11/25 15:25:08
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Road-Raging Blood Angel Biker
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$49 AUD for dice! Do they actually contain blood from the Primarch? I mean, I'll buy them anyway
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2017/11/25 15:30:38
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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What's the actual pre-order date for the codexes?
And yeah $49 is a bit steep for some dice but... I'm still going to buy them too haha
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2017/11/25 17:14:27
Subject: Re:Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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It actually looks like Dark Angels get their codex first.
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2017/11/25 17:46:07
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Dakka Veteran
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Why does it look that way?
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2017/11/25 19:44:32
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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all of their items are listed first.
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2017/11/25 20:08:31
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Ancient Space Wolves Venerable Dreadnought
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Well, yeah, you gotta make it DA then BA; if you have it the other way around and then daemons first up the next month, that’s two chaos releases in a row and that’s just not allowed. :p
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2017/11/25 21:18:33
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Perturbed Blood Angel Tactical Marine
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Guy who leaked info from WD said that 2nd december BA pre-order 9th release.
DA - 9th pre-order 16th release
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2017/11/25 21:39:13
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Omega-soul wrote:Guy who leaked info from WD said that 2nd december BA pre-order 9th release.
DA - 9th pre-order 16th release
awesome. It comes out a weekend I will be able to go to a GW store.
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2017/11/26 11:10:58
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Anyone know if the WD mentions any pre-order for upgrade sprues?
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2017/11/26 13:39:12
Subject: Re:Blood Angels incoming!
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Regular Dakkanaut
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2017/11/26 13:48:03
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Hissing Hybrid Metamorph
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Ah nice. Though the sprue seems kind of lacking, I'm still keen to chuck on some BAngel iconography to my dudes. And ima buy those dice. If the skull represents the one, I'm keen to finally have BAngel dice with their logo for the 6. It was dumb with the last set getting disappointed when you saw the logo haha
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2017/11/26 14:34:35
Subject: Re:Blood Angels incoming!
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Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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The Lieutenant looks great. Definite buy for me. Between him and my extra Dark Imperium Power Sword Lieutenant, I will have that role covered well. The upgrade sprue looks fantastic. I am definitely considering getting some. Some Intercessors and Inceptors will be on the receiving end of these Sprues for my army. I dunno.
I can't wait for this release!
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2017/11/26 14:39:33
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Dakka Veteran
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I like the Dec.9 release date on the Lt.
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2017/11/26 14:52:56
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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That and he’s much cheaper than previous Primaris characters.
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2017/11/26 15:23:06
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Blood-Drenched Death Company Marine
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The pads heads and arms on the upgrade sprue are incredibly underwhelming. The Reliquaries and other extras are pretty cool.
The lieutenant is solid, if unspectacular, but chopping the sword hand to rotate it into a sensible pose (relative to what the rest of the model is doing) is mandatory.
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2017/11/26 16:27:58
Subject: Blood Angels incoming!
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Been Around the Block
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The Lieutenant looks nice, I find the upgrade a bit meh certainly compared with the non primaris Tactical Blood Angels set + old upgrade sprue.
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