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from the GW site....

Take cover and call for reinforcements - new tanks are coming from the forges to lay waste to the battlefield. A number of new vehicle kits and Bitz Packs are released this August, perfect for tank commanders and treadheads of every persuasion. Shown here is the new Imperial Guard Leman Russ Demolisher - the ultimate siege tank, plated in additional armour and bristling with deadly weaponry.

The multi-part plastic kit includes all the hull and sponson-mounted weapons available to this beast, and can also be assembled as a Leman Russ Executioner or Leman Russ Punisher!

linky with pics

So it's just a different turret? Honestly I don't like it... I don't know if it's the bad paint job, a rush build-job, or the stubby cannon just looks pathetic. Give me the original Demolisher Cannon. That thing looked dangerous. This doesn't.

Eh... I have 6 Demolishers already, so I'll pass.

The plastic sponson weapons are nice, but the heavy bolters and multi-meltas look like they are sticking out way too far. They don't have the stubby look that they used to have.

Any wild speculation about what will be included in the bitz packs? I hope for the hull heavy bolter, but I'm guessing it'll simply be all the old metal tank commanders and riders.

If I had to guess, we'll probably see a Knight-Commander Pask model.

I'll be disappointed if we don't.

The front of the hull looks different too... The 3 headlight piece is missing. Not to mention that the seem between the bottom and the front looks like crap. Actually the heavy flamer gun compartment looks like it was put together by a 3 year old as well.

But I do like turret. Still not sure if I should wait for the new kit or just get a pair Executioner turrets from FW, since I already have enough chassis.

I never really liked tanks in my army much,now I like the idea even less.

I hope the turret sprue is available in bitz

On the bright side the sponson and hull weapon mounts are of a different design, which should allow for easier magnetized swapping. Other than that, what the feth. It has been hit with the ugly stick big time. Congrats to the prick (you know who you are) who kept saying that the Russ should be more like a miniature Baneblade.

looks liek they changed the front gun monut to be one front plate peice instead of two, and widened the lower hull section a little. The turret is quite tidy looking but i think i will still stick to the FW turrets for astectics

Who wrote the new guard dex again?

Was it that designer Robin who helped Andy Hoare write the Lizardmen 'dex.

(I am just trying to find out who we can hang for his crimes against tiny plastic people!)

i will say tho, the turret is like a mix between the old turret and an M1 Abrams, i think it looks a bit too high tech for the guard

Now the next question is how much will GW charge for this monstrosity , $45?

H.B.M.C. wrote:So it's just a different turret? Honestly I don't like it... I don't know if it's the bad paint job, a rush build-job, or the stubby cannon just looks pathetic. Give me the original Demolisher Cannon. That thing looked dangerous. This doesn't.

I agree on the sentiments about the cannon. The hull does appear to have been modified. The area where the turret sits has been widened. The lower hull, as Ubermosh points out, no longer has the lighting recess. Someone claims the rear apparently has some changes as well. The sponsons also appears to be composed of fewer parts. They also seem to have flattened the "suspension" on the side of the tank.

ubermosher wrote:The front of the hull looks different too... The 3 headlight piece is missing. Not to mention that the seem between the bottom and the front looks like crap. Actually the heavy flamer gun compartment looks like it was put together by a 3 year old as well.

For these models they've been using the test run sprues to assemble the model. Those early sprue runs for almost any plastic model end up generally bad because the mold hasn't had all the edges sharpened, the injectors for the plastic aren't adjusted or calibrated, and in some instances the mechanism that releases and pushes the completed part out isn't installed requiring prying. All that gets us an explanation, but there isn't an excuse for bad modelling at a company that promotes modelling.

Turret looks too flat and too long if you ask me.
The sponsons are okay, I like the melta and the plasma ....

However...the hullmounted flamer sux just as much as the one on the hound. Redo em GW, please for the love of god

Turret's nice, hull build quality and weapons are awful.

between this and the hell hound, that is some of the shodest modaling ive ever seen of gw. unaccepable really..i like the turret, but it dosnt seem to suite the hull, looks like its bin taken off a nother kit

Flachzange wrote:Turret looks two flat and too long if you ask me.
The sponsons are okay, I like the melta and the plasma ....

However...the hullmounted flamer sux just as much as the one on the hound. Redo em GW, please for the love of god

I think the turret is a bit flatter, but not much. I think its mostly due to the angle the photos taken at combined with the fact that they built up the top of the turret where copula sits as these two sharp flat edged platforms. So while the turret itself probably isn't really that flat and squished down, the visual cues are forcing us to draw that conclusion from this angle.

I don't think it matters too much which style GW decided to do the flamers. I just think they're a bit all over the place by having two distinctive designs for it. Consistency is my main complaint on this. Why do sentinels and infantry have a different style? We can come up with reasons, but from the stand point of making things immediately recognizable while playing, this dilutes that.

i didnt like the guard tanks anyway the turret just makes it look even more short and stubby

i was really hopping that they would remodel the demo cannon but they didnt


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i didnt like the guard tanks anyway the turret just makes it look even more short and stubby

i was really hopping that they would remodel the demo cannon but they didnt

I rather like the turret. The hull and sponson weapons simply bring the russ up to date with the current look of guard heavy weapons, though the plasma still looks 2nd Edition. As for the hull, I don't know what some of you people are looking at, but the kit looks identical to the current model. I see no changes to anything outside of the turret. If it looks wider to some of you, it's probably an optical illusion since the turret is so much thinner and longer.

What really saddens me though is the shoddiness of construction. This is a gaming company that has been in business for decades and that's the best their 'Eavy Metal team could do? I hate to keep piling on GW, but everyday they do something new to surprise me (just not in the good way).

The flatter, longer turret looks more realistic than the fat, tall turrets so many sci-fi tanks have. Overall, not wowed by this but I do like it.

aka_mythos wrote:The hull does appear to have been modified. The area where the turret sits has been widened.

The lower hull, as Ubermosh points out, no longer has the lighting recess. Someone claims the rear apparently has some changes as well. The sponsons also appears to be composed of fewer parts. They also seem to have flattened the "suspension" on the side of the tank.

Yeah, I agree that it looks like they redid the the upper hull where the turret mounts, to fill in some of the space. The fuel filler is still in the same detail in the same place. Just the forward left corner was filled in a bit on the top. But if they're resculpting that part of the hull, why are they still keeping the rest of the hull the same? They couldn't convert to Mars Alpha?

The lower hull hasn't changed a bit. The recess is still there, just hidden by the angle with the tow loop blocking the view.

And the suspension / side plate is completely unchanged.

All in all, this is pretty bad, even though the turret is somewhat better.

This highlights the differences in the old and new hull.

@Aka - thanks for that.

I agree the red oval is a real change, but I can't imagine why GW would make such a trivial change.

The black oval for the driver's viewport seems to be the same, as a change in angle..

The grey oval still shows a recess, but now, maybe it's smaller, like the red oval??? Maddening, if GW is changing this and not fixing the hull.

The side plates still seem unchanged.

I am torn... I rather like the new turret, but the cannon is not as impressive. It is a little hard for me to say, but I might like the new one better. If they neck down the regular LR's gun barrel a bit, I might like it a lot better.
Still, with the camo it is hard to see. I will have to put one together to really know.

I wonder if they got rid of the extraneous rollers under the treads...

JohnHwangDD wrote:@Aka - thanks for that.

I agree the red oval is a real change, but I can't imagine why GW would make such a trivial change.

The black oval for the driver's viewport seems to be the same, as a change in angle..

The grey oval still shows a recess, but now, maybe it's smaller, like the red oval??? Maddening, if GW is changing this and not fixing the hull.

The side plates still seem unchanged.

The reason I highlighted the drivers viewport is partially because it looks like from this angle that they made the port more squared but also because if you look at the full sized GW picture you'll see two evenly spaced lines that look like shadows and a series of dots that look like rivets, implying to me that they added detail in the form of reinforcement bars down it.

For the grey oval, you can see in the comparison that the lower front section currently only extends to just left of the viewport hatch, but that on the new one it stops just right of it. My guess as to why there is still a recess is simply they could not modify the inside track assembly plate. So the new hull had to locate off the same feature the current hull does.

I don't really believe yellow oval is a change, so much as just a result of using an early sprue before full calibration of the molding machine and 100% completion of the mold. With plastic they usually wait till the end to sharpen up edges as well as that sort of detail. Which is why the model in these pictures are crap.

Is the article not showing up for anyone else?

Nope it works for me but it isn't much in any way.LOL.

I like to much this version

Sorry, its not red enough to be ork. (yet)