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 Timotheus wrote:
Scout Stats confirmation:

Spoiler:

Strike Force Ultra:


1st Company:


Demi Company:

Sorry for the german again.

Some nice person want to translate?

/beg

BakAG wrote:


-Scout HAVE MARINE STATLINE without point modification. Yes, you read that right.

Please be true, I have missed them so much since they went to BS and WS3 in 5th.

Really slow on the draw today.

Those dreadnought upgrades look cheap.

TL Lascannon dropped from 25 points to 15 points, plasma cannon from 10 to 5, assault cannon from 20 to 10.

At least that's what I think a Dreadnought-Waffen is!

If it's just a form of a Dreadnought Waffle, I'll be disappointed.


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 pretre wrote:

They look a lot better, but still, with the other upgrades, grav, etc. there's not really any reason to take them :( S4AP5 with one assault cannon is just so useless on a unit that's going to cost you 200 points after upgrades. lol... you are better off with 2 of the new dreadnoughts

It's the close combat weapon.

Though good to see that the Dread receives some fixing.

Requizen wrote:

 Timotheus wrote:
Scout Stats confirmation:

Spoiler:

Strike Force Ultra:


1st Company:


Demi Company:

Sorry for the german again.

Some nice person want to translate?

/beg

THEM SCOUTS

Cents points drop!!!!:

@VictorVonTzeentch - yeah, scouts are the ninja upgrade, man. They're gonna be something fierce.

TBH, with Company bonus and the scouts buff, am I the only one that's thinking that Space Marines just turned into the ultimate elite MSU army?

 Talys wrote:
Those dreadnought upgrades look cheap.

TL Lascannon dropped from 25 points to 15 points, plasma cannon from 10 to 5, assault cannon from 20 to 10.

Honestly that sounds great. Dreads faced a problem of having crap weapons, but being too expensive if you upgraded them to good weapons.

If they had kept the upgrade costs the same and just made dreads 25 points cheaper, you MIGHT end up with dread spam issues.

Not sure if it is enough, but a step in the right direction.


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 Talys wrote:
@VictorVonTzeentch - yeah, scouts are the ninja upgrade, man. They're gonna be something fierce.

TBH, with Company bonus and the scouts buff, am I the only one that's thinking that Space Marines just turned into the ultimate elite MSU army?

SW scouts just got angrier.

 Timotheus wrote:
Cents points drop!!!!:

Spoiler:

Yeah!!! But the grav cannons went up to 25. So the difference is only 10 points.

Before = 190 + 20 * 3 = 250
Now = 165 + 25 * 3 = 240

Still.

I'll take it! Who wants the veteran sergeant anyhow?

Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

 pretre wrote:
Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

Ahhhhh I see. I think they come with a heavy bolter by default, or something, so that would make sense, right? Or that was the rumor. Then again, base cost of devs may have gone up? Need a pic of the page!

At this rate, I won't need to buy the new Codex. I'll just have to learn German!

Yep. Ten Points saved is an extra combi weapon for a sergeant, or less trimming elsewhere.

Some days I regret building mine with Missile Launchers, but, c'est la vie.

That, with the Scout buff, almost no reason to take Tactical Marines in a CAD. And say that as I continue to paint my boys in Blue.

 Talys wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

Ahhhhh I see. I think they come with a heavy bolter by default, or something, so that would make sense, right? Or that was the rumor. Then again, base cost of devs may have gone up? Need a pic of the page!

At this rate, I won't need to buy the new Codex. I'll just have to learn German!

remember when devs paid MORE for heavy weapons than tacticals?

Lascannons on tactical, 25 points. Same lascannon on the same marine, only a devistator cost 45 points.

That was precious.


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 Crazyterran wrote:

Some days I regret building mine with Missile Launchers, but, c'est la vie.

that has gotta be one of the easiest post paint job mods there is.

 Timotheus wrote:
Cents points drop!!!!:

So, if I am reading this correctly, the rumor about Centurions getting two main weapons, rather than a single, Twin-linked one, was incorrect. Right?

BT Characters

 pretre wrote:
Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

The French guy on BnC says they're 20 in the armory section and 25 for Cents, and no other points appear anywhere for them.

German picture of the armory section says 35.

 Thud wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

The French guy on BnC says they're 20 in the armory section and 25 for Cents, and no other points appear anywhere for them.

German picture of the armory section says 35.

Mebbe French Grav Cannons are just cheaper than German ones. But to get the discount, you must wear a beret and carry a bagel under your arm!

 Thud wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

The French guy on BnC says they're 20 in the armory section and 25 for Cents, and no other points appear anywhere for them.

German picture of the armory section says 35.

Yeah difference between french and german. Guess we need a third language to confirm.

 Timotheus wrote:
Scout Stats confirmation:

Wait, so Crusader Squads ARE still there. Why else would they split it in to initiate and neophyte like that??

 Exergy wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 pretre wrote:
Supposedly Devs get heavy weapons for a different price. That's why he says they are 20 instead of 35.

Ahhhhh I see. I think they come with a heavy bolter by default, or something, so that would make sense, right? Or that was the rumor. Then again, base cost of devs may have gone up? Need a pic of the page!

At this rate, I won't need to buy the new Codex. I'll just have to learn German!

remember when devs paid MORE for heavy weapons than tacticals?

Lascannons on tactical, 25 points. Same lascannon on the same marine, only a devistator cost 45 points.

That was precious.


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 Crazyterran wrote:

Some days I regret building mine with Missile Launchers, but, c'est la vie.

that has gotta be one of the easiest post paint job mods there is.

Ehh, those Missile Launchers have also gotten me good things more than a few times. I used plastic glue, so, sadly, no taking them out. I suppose I could cut the tips off. They'll look close enough at that point.

 pretre wrote:

Yeah difference between french and german. Guess we need a third language to confirm.

English version will be 15 points?

On the bright side, I don't see any posts about how this is just a money-grab reprint of 6e codex anymore.

Confirmed french has different cost

Not surprised at all to see all these point drops.

Less points, more models. More money for mama GW.

And all when 2000 points is becoming more and more common.

At this rate in five years we will have the battlefields so crammed with stuff that you won't be able to move anything .

 Talys wrote:

 pretre wrote:

Yeah difference between french and german. Guess we need a third language to confirm.

English version will be 15 points?

On the bright side, I don't see any posts about how this is just a money-grab reprint of 6e codex anymore.

I think it's a solid redo.

ROFL. French guy just posted a picture of his dex. It really is 20 points. hahahahahahahahaha

One of those is a misprint, or a good photoshop job

Bloody hilarious

and they want us to pay nearly 60 for that?

Vintersorg wrote:
Not surprised at all to see all these point drops.

Less points, more models. More money for mama GW.

And all when 2000 points is becoming more and more common.

At this rate in five years we will have the battlefields so crammed with stuff that you won't be able to move anything .

you know what is also sold by gw?

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Citadel-Realm-of-Battle-Gameboard-Extension

hehehe

I'm liking the scout and dreadnought buffs way too much, I'm a bit sweaty.

Canon a Graviton et Amplificateur Gravitique is obviously sexier than Gravkanone und Gravverstarker, I guess.


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Vintersorg wrote:
Less points, more models. More money for mama GW.

Please explain this concept to the guys who write the Blood Angels, Dark Eldar and Grey Knights books