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 warboss wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:

It does look a little beefier. It could be the new Coldstar. A little underwhelming considering I was expecting something more distinct like the breachers vs strikers (FW).

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Another new image! YES! From someone at ATT.

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Thanks for scouring the net for more pics. Yeah, if that is the coldstar AND it gets better stats, I'll just use my enforcer squad as them instead. The variant suit looks like it has a much flatter chest in the pic you just posted as well. For the facepalm impared, it's the second crisis suit from the left. The new enforcer commander suit ( : first full suit from the right) also has a ton more dohickies attached to it for the various systems as well. They were shown in the previous pic but I forgot to mention it.

I think you are correct, 2nd from left does look like it should be space variant.

Also, some of the XV8 legs appear bent? Is this just a perspective thing? Or might they come in several poses, or GOD FORBID POSEABLE!?!?

Coldstar is supposed to be in the same box as the Enforcer, but nothing about them look even remotely shared.

The more I see of it, the more I'm convinced that suit is the Coldstar. There's just too many differences between it and every other Crisis Suit shown. Unless we're getting them in packs of 6 now and that's supposed to be the Shas'vre, it's definitely a new variant of some kind.

Yeah, I could see that. Box of six for $100+.

 Kanluwen wrote:
Coldstar is supposed to be in the same box as the Enforcer, but nothing about them look even remotely shared.

Are you getting that from the decal sheet sequential numbering or did I miss the price sheet that includes the enforcer? It's a fast moving thread and I know I saw the firewarrior one but not any enforcer box contents/price pic.


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 GI_Redshirt wrote:
The more I see of it, the more I'm convinced that suit is the Coldstar. There's just too many differences between it and every other Crisis Suit shown. Unless we're getting them in packs of 6 now and that's supposed to be the Shas'vre, it's definitely a new variant of some kind.

It may not be the coldstar but it definitely looks different enough to be a variant of some kind. I'm glad that GW can add to the tau army and fluff things like new suits and titans without most folks getting their greater good up in a bunch. I'd love for their to be an option for a squad of the t5 2+ suit variants (can't recall the name at the moment) that are talked about in the fluff as being fielded as a bodyguard squad by one particular commander but are 1 per army only currently.

Oh hey the commander kit seems to have something visually akin to the R'myr Flechette discharge system (If that part is indeed what that rail-like thing called)

I'm not sure its cold star either. It is some sort of variant though even if its just a upgrade that can be taken on a per squad basis. Ugh one week before we get more official details on our command and cold star.

After looking at it I doubt its the coldstar. ColdStar is XV-86 in between the enforcer and the broadside. Its decals are close in size to the enforcer. All this would lead me to believe it is on the size range of the enforcer/broadside.
This model is the crisis suit with a different chest piece and different helm. Everything else is the same as the normal crisis. Its weapon load out in the pic with the "enforcer"/Commander on the right Its equipped with a flamer and fusion just like the rest of the squad. I doubt that the Coldstar is that indistinct

Breachers seem....really lackluster to me.

The range on that gun for how much stronger it gets is laughable. Pulse Carbines are better than that in virtually every single aspect (5" its not, but then you have severe charge threats)
The only reason i like them is the invul drone. But that gun is just abysmal to me....

 ChiliPowderKeg wrote:
Oh hey the commander kit seems to have something visually akin to the R'myr Flechette discharge system (If that part is indeed what that rail-like thing called)

Some type of upgrade for the suit perhaps? It would make sense for the Coldstar to be some sort of body upgrade from the standard Crisis Suit. After all, it's meant to operate in deep space. More armour and a pressurization system would be needed at the least.

 TheNewBlood wrote:

 ChiliPowderKeg wrote:
Oh hey the commander kit seems to have something visually akin to the R'myr Flechette discharge system (If that part is indeed what that rail-like thing called)

Some type of upgrade for the suit perhaps? It would make sense for the Coldstar to be some sort of body upgrade from the standard Crisis Suit. After all, it's meant to operate in deep space. More armour and a pressurization system would be needed at the least.

Also a full RCS. You can't get away with just the main jets.

I play with heavy terrain and zone mortalis. Also a buddy of mine uses Drop pods, oh boy am i gonna have fun with the breachers =D. But yes if you arent using your breachers to breach they are gonna be lack luster. Test played them earlier,2 min squads, Put them in a fish in reserves, they came in after enemy deepstrikers and tore up shop =D gonna be picking up at least 3 min squads of these puppies =D

That crisis suit model looks wayyyyy too much like the forgeworld guy. Like, hes missing the shield...thats it.

Why such a insanely close resemblance to a unique model?

 Vineheart01 wrote:
That crisis suit model looks wayyyyy too much like the forgeworld guy. Like, hes missing the shield...thats it.

Why such a insanely close resemblance to a unique model?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure that GW has a history of copying designs from Forge World. It makes sense, since Forge World is a GW-owned subsidiary, for GW to take form their library.

It's like that scene in Hot Fuzz:

"Why do you look like a Forgeworld model?!?"

"...Because I am one?"

Pretty sure the big suit on the right is the Coldstar (it shares a lot of features with the finecast Enforcer, but has a ton of extra fins everywhere that the Enforcer doesn't) while the oddball flat chest crisis suit is just an alternate front torso part to make character suits. It would be easily explained by a 3-pack crisis suit box with 3 torso backs and 4 torso fronts, and then

Yes, they absorb designs, like the Piranha. Which is why I am always hopeful for Codex Barracuda, but I guess they'd just break it.

Willing to bet if they ever add the Barracuda to the codex they'd omit the Agile rule, which to me would just kill that thing. Its insanely difficult to hit rules is why its awesome to me, its gun is pretty "decent" but not amazing.
And yeah i know they tend to absorb FW designs, i mean they own it after all, but that suit is IDENTICAL minus the shield. Really? lol

That R'Myr model is not a picture of a new GW suit. It was posted because the fins on the back of R'Myr are similar to thefins on the new big GW suit in the pic with all the crisis suits.

Some FW rules became a lot better after GW got to them- the Hydra was 200 points in the FW books, then copied into Apocalypse, but then made awesome in the 5th edition guard codex (and later nerfed somewhat in the 6th edition one, but still not costing 200 points like FW did)

Barracuda started at 220 points Heavy support in Taros I, then was copied straiht into the Apoc I book. It wasn't until Taros 2nd Ed that it became much better. We will see what FW does with it in the next IA book if it is indeed Tau vs AdMech.

If you're talking about the white/khaki model on white background that is the FW R'myr model without his shield. It's part of an army that's been featured on GW's site a long time ago for the weathering/OSL if I'm not mistaken. Not sure if it belongs to a staffer or just some random hobbyist.

That would explain it...lol...
I use that model as a buffmander proxy. Removed his plasmas and put a flamer on it since thats how i run the buffmander setup.

Burning Dawn sounds like the painful revelation of contracting a veneral disease.

Dammit, I thought I'd get away with my existing Finecast Enforcer suit and FW XV-89 commander, but that plastic Enforcer is going to be a must buy.

At least my Crisis squads are going to have cool new Shas'vres.

Okay so new Crisis suits and new Fire Warriors, I'm definitely restarting my (currently tiny) Tau army. The new Enforcer suit looks amazing, did the Enforcer suit actually have any different rules in the last codex to a normal XV8? I don't think it did, I hope it does this time, it looks too different to just be a XV8 ruleswise. I reckon the Coldstar will be made from the Enforcer set, and that XV8 with a different torso is just that, to add variety to the Crisis suits.

Yo Dawg, we heard you like Firewarriors, so we made 'em US$50 a box because feth you that's why!



Thems prices are not kind...

At $100NZD a box of fire warriors I have high doubts anybody will buy it here.

My first box of Fire Warriors was 48 NZD for 12 men and 2 drones.

They are a lot, the Pathfinders that came with the last codex are ~£20 for 10 with 3 drones.

I won't buy the new FW box from GW at this price, no way. I will patiently wait until there's a bargain on those on the Internet.

Kahnawake

Anyone else spy the Tidewall Rampart in top right? Hefty price tag but will wait and see what we get. Finally faction fortifications! Let's hope this becomes a trend.

 caminacambob wrote:
Anyone else spy the Tidewall Rampart in top right? Hefty price tag but will wait and see what we get. Finally faction fortifications! Let's hope this becomes a trend.

Pics of it have already been posted earlier in the thread, it looks sweet!