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Decrepit Dakkanaut







the incredible, edible pig!


3 pours

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





California + Philidelphia

edible pig whahh? thats not the first thing you said today that is strange to me.. did you bump your head?

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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
 
   
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Rogue Wolves wrote:im suddely hungry for some pork...


"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





California + Philidelphia

oh ok.. but how does this pertain to your picture ??!?!?!!!???!

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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
 
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

thats what we call in the business an answer to an earlier post...;P

the molds look really good...the minor issues with the miscasts i think could be solevd with aplying detals later on? so a more simpler mold would solve this i guess...or am i in the wrong here? casting is a riddle still for me? would another casting substance...resin for instance work out differently?

by the way... the plain pieces would be the ones that for me i would probably be the most interesting to me anyway... you can only have so many hatches and gutters on a certain area...

   
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UK

I was wondering if maybe resin would be a better option to cast the more intricate detail ?

Other wise they have come out well, is the missing detail all air bubbles or is some of it down to parts getting stuck in the mould , if thats the case maybe some kind of realising agent might help

Any chance slapping some paint on a couple to see how they paint up
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

yeah some paint...black basecoat them and then a quick drybrush would be very good!!!

   
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Near Boston

Viktor von Domm wrote:er...i hope you have picked up your cam inbetween...we wanna see too^^


Ask and ye shall receive... Cant sleep too much to do... *IN PROGRESS* Building for Templecon 2012 (40k)

lone dirty dog wrote:Galorn@ Yes your scenery kicks ass and now you have combined forces with Dave it can only get better after all 2 minds are just dangerous ……….


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

dsteingass wrote:


LoD, Roadwarriors were my Favorite wrestlers growing up...

lone dirty dog wrote:I was wondering if maybe resin would be a better option to cast the more intricate detail ?

Other wise they have come out well, is the missing detail all air bubbles or is some of it down to parts getting stuck in the mould , if thats the case maybe some kind of realising agent might help

Any chance slapping some paint on a couple to see how they paint up


It's possible, Resin and Dentalstone/gypsum products behave differently. also using a surfactant (such as "wet water" from hirst arts) as a flow aid might help as well.

Viktor von Domm wrote:thats what we call in the business an answer to an earlier post...;P

the molds look really good...the minor issues with the miscasts i think could be solved with applying details later on? so a more simple mold would solve this i guess...or am i in the wrong here? casting is a riddle still for me? would another casting substance...resin for instance work out differently?

by the way... the plain pieces would be the ones that for me i would probably be the most interesting to me anyway... you can only have so many hatches and gutters on a certain area...


Edited for typos. answered Question above... Now no more rest for me BWArrrrg Back to work...



Link to my Index Thread here on dakka


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Veni, Vidi discessi.-Galorn. 
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

good luck mate, and thanks for the link... looking very promising... you will make some players very happy^^

   
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot





UK

Galorn@ Yes, nice work and 100% commitment though you may need to restock on the red bull with that much to do, I ma happy if I sculpt an arm or leg in the day but to build that much terrain hats of to you sir

I thought that a realising agent might help with the de moulding but was not sure as it being plaster (only worked with resin) but great job on those moulds they are tops



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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle






Near Boston

lone dirty dog wrote:Galorn@ Yes, nice work and 100% commitment though you may need to restock on the red bull with that much to do, I ma happy if I sculpt an arm or leg in the day but to build that much terrain hats of to you sir

I thought that a realising agent might help with the de moulding but was not sure as it being plaster (only worked with resin) but great job on those moulds they are tops





"wet water" is just water + "jet dry". (to break surface tension and allow the gypsum particles to flow better.)
   
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot





UK

Jet dry the dish washer stuff ?
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







@Rogue- LOL, I'm pretty sure you are not supposed to drink the bong water bud

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Doc Brown





Spring, Tx

dsteingass wrote:Everything you could ever want for Necromunda, including the cardstock PDF is here
http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=79749

Micro Mark
http://www.micromark.com/chop-it,9547.html


Those are some great links D! Have you looked at the Necromunda stuff on GW's website?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat200210&categoryId=1100011§ion&aId=5300010

I'm going to put these links over on my page too so I don't lose them.

Have you any experience making moulds from resin model pieces? Is it the same?

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Contagious Dreadnought of Nurgle






Near Boston

lone dirty dog wrote:Jet dry the dish washer stuff ?


yep


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Hmelrose wrote:
dsteingass wrote:Everything you could ever want for Necromunda, including the cardstock PDF is here
http://www.wargamerau.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=79749

Micro Mark
http://www.micromark.com/chop-it,9547.html


Those are some great links D! Have you looked at the Necromunda stuff on GW's website?
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/content/article.jsp?catId=cat200210&categoryId=1100011§ion&aId=5300010

I'm going to put these links over on my page too so I don't lose them.

Have you any experience making moulds from resin model pieces? Is it the same?


largely, although IP issues might arise depending on how the resultant mold is intended to be used.

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2012/02/03 13:56:05


 
   
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Spring, Tx

Galorn wrote:
Hmelrose wrote:
Have you any experience making moulds from resin model pieces? Is it the same?


largely, although IP issues might arise depending on how the resultant mold is intended to be used.


These would only be for personal use.
   
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Oozing Plague Marine Terminator





Las Vegas, Nevada

Dave, the panels look great. How many more square inches do you need to do, though? I think you have a large need for dental stone, hehe.......


Making a mold from a resin pieces would require a serious release agent. I wouldn't trust anything that wasn't made specifically for the purpose because if it goes wrong not only would the mold be bad but the piece in it would be ruined when you had to chisel it out......

You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass

 
   
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Frenzied Berserker Terminator





Everett, WA


This looks great!




This should be fine, just dab some PVC glue around it, and paint the glue green and yellow when it dries, and it will look like toxic sludge has eaten away at the metal!

   
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I don't know!

Looking good dsteingass! Keep up the gret casting!

   
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Thanks guys! -The issue with the vent not casting properly is only my fault, it is in the fault of the design. It is a lesson that I will learn when I make the next set of masters. It's all about gravity and viscosity when pouring the permastone. My vent design actually encourages air bubbles in those recesses, and prevents the liquid plaster from filling the void. I may try some off-the-shelf casting resin soon, I'm sure it will be much stronger in those thin areas, but I'm afraid the way I designed the vent will still prevent the resin from filling those voids properly. Unless I have some sort of centrifuge to force casting material into all the nether-regions, the vent will unfortunately act the same.


"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Guard Heavy Weapon Crewman





Brentwood, Missouri

Don't worry bud. We're here for you.

Now go make another building.
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut







bah! I'm off the clock dood Had a great Greek dinner, belly is full, gonna chill for tonight, for tomorrow we build.

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Shroomin Brain Boy





Berlin Germany

well i am off for bed in the next minute anyway... digest well my friend!^^

   
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Da Head Honcho Boss Grot





UK

The tiles are looking good not to bad at all miner faults but it is all a learning curve, I don't know if it would help but when I did some resin casting i used to use a small hammer just to tap the side of the mould a few times after pouring in the resin.

This is not perfect by all means but released a lot of the air bubbles reducing the amount of holes in the cast, some people make small vibrating tables to agitate the bubbles to the surface might work with plaster but not sure.

Any chance of some paint on them to give us more of an idea of finished look
   
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Hopefully paint tomorrow. I tap them with a screwdriver handle after pouring.

No topics have been created by lone dirty dog yet.

Tell you what, you start a thread, and I'll paint them

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"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Elite Tyranid Warrior



East TN

Hmelrose wrote:
Galorn wrote:
Hmelrose wrote:
Have you any experience making moulds from resin model pieces? Is it the same?


largely, although IP issues might arise depending on how the resultant mold is intended to be used.


These would only be for personal use.


Before the extreme right and extreme left folks start sounding off, understand the following.
Making copies of someone else's models is counterfeiting and under US law it is illegal even if you only intend to use them for personal use. Some feel this is morally wrong and some don't.
Also in the US we have just had a scare with the SOPA and PIPA bills which fortunately did not pass "yet" with those bills hanging out in the house/senate consider how they interact with this scenario. Dakka is a website that GW or the IP owner of other resin models could force a shut down of without the standard kind of due process we are used to having here in the US. So many people running websites and forums have been extra jumpy when IP violations get mentioned.

That having been said check out my blog, there are a couple of mold making and casting tutorials. Feel free to contact me if you need advice.

http://warfrog.blogspot.com/p/completed-projects.html
One of my molds

   
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THis is why it is referred to as "the forbidden art"

"dave you are the definition of old school..." -Viktor Von Domm My P&M Blog :
It's great how just adding a little iconography, and rivets of course, can make something look distinctly 40K-adamsouza
"Ah yes, the sound of riveting.....Swear word after swear word and the clinking of thrown tools" "Nope. It sucks do it again..."- mxwllmdr
"It puts together more terrain, or else it gets the hose again...-dangledorf2.0
"This is the Imperium, there is no peace, there are only rivets" -Vitruvian XVII
"I think rivets are the perfect solution to almost every problem"- Rawson
More buildings for the Building God! -Shasolenzabi
 
   
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Haemonculi Flesh Apprentice






mmmmmmmm forbiddin doughnut!

   
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair





California + Philidelphia

dsteingass wrote:@Rogue- LOL, I'm pretty sure you are not supposed to drink the bong water bud

Hey, your forgeting that i AM legaly blind.. so dont blame me if i drink it from time to time!

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"Don't worry, Vik! You have all of your internet friends to keep you company! And, as everyone knows, internet friends are at least one step above imaginary friends "-Rawson
"Does an Ork shiiiit green?" "...Rogue! -you rock!" "Damn you too Rogue!""[TTFN]... That means tittyfething right?""Yep, that's me, a two-dollar whore"-Dsteingass
"... but if we all fail together we can make it look like we´ve won actually.." "...to all killers out there...: my face will hit your fist so hard it´s gonna bleed...your fist that is...""lol....OMG... you are a serial""he knows no pain...nor fear^^ he is a riveteer""yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose...""er... emailsex... now that at least sounds like the perfect safer sex... but i like mine a bit more...wet""do you know what they call a quarter pounder of a buckte full of rivets in france?" "No...what?" "Rivitz royal"-Viktor von Domm
" I expected to hear gak like that from RW, not you Vik... for shame Sir, for shame"-AnUnearthlyChilde
"We are Vik's private collection of muses for the monkey on his back.....""you, guys are worse than my children......"-mxwllmdr
"Singling one out as odd in a =][_= thread is like going into an asylum, pointing at someone at random and saying "that person's insane""-Shrike
 
   
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Las Vegas, Nevada

Hey, Dave, for resin casting where bubbles is a problem what you could do is get an old toy that has a rumble motor and build it into a small Plasti-card box with a battery pack and switch. When you are filling the mold you place this box under your mold and turn it on for the vibration effect..... I intend to build on when I finally get funding approval for serious resin casting from the household commander.....

You are waaaaay beyond crazy my friend -DSteingass
Yes, everything that changes the entire fething world is overrated..... - DSteingass
...yep... some of the dakka chaps here sure made the joints of my jaw quite loose..Viktor Von Domm
...they put Space Marines in tin cans and drop them from orbit, I don't think fuel consumption or aerodynamics is a concern - DSteingass
I think once again my motormouth has brought me into deep... - Viktor Von Domm
he knows no pain...nor fear, he is a riveteer - Viktor Von Domm
We don't do generic, mainstream, normal, or anything of the sort! ^^ - Shrike
You build fething Titans Henry Ford style Max!! - DSteingass

 
   
 
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