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Is it just me.
Whenever i look on you tube, or warhammer forums.
Their are cats. !
either in the picture or just as avatars.
Hands up cat owners

If by "youtube or warhammer forums" you mean "the entire internet", I agree.

I was looking at paintimg and gaming vid's
And it seems cats and warhammer go together

Mangy yowling vermin. They should be driven in front of the canine hordes!

Just try it buddy, my feline companions are still fully clawed and experienced in the urban cat/dog wars.

Didn't you know? Cats are the master race. We are their slaves. Suffer not the fluffy felines!

On the other hand - They're rather (yes, the "C" word) CUTE!

Oh dear. Please excuse me... *Dissapears upstairs. Begins arguing with himself*

Sure, most dogs are going to be real sorry they picked a fight with a cat. But at the end, the cat is going to be dogfood.

Da Boss wrote:Sure, most dogs are going to be real sorry they picked a fight with a cat. But at the end, the cat is going to be dogfood.

Around here, the cats sometimes turn out to be a mountain lion that came into somebodies yard looking for a "Scooby snack".

Remember the adage.

Dogs have masters.

Cats have staff.

When you said monster cats of death, I thought of this....

LOL

I prefer the term doom, to death; it just has more zing.

Da Boss wrote:Sure, most dogs are going to be real sorry they picked a fight with a cat. But at the end, the cat is going to be dogfood.

Let me tell you a story of the real Basement Cat.

An old friend of mine had a black cat, which went by the name of Frank. This cat was deadly. My friend has moved house on several occasions, and each time Frank has managed to beat all other cats in the neighborhood into submission within a week.

This cat was so evil, that it would lure people into a false sense of security in order to mutilate them. Once, it rubbed up against, miaowing sweetly, and I tickled behind its ears. Frank pretended to enjoy this. He then proceeded to lie down on his back, paws in the air, inviting me to tickle his tummy. As soon as I put my hand in him he flipped up and sunk his teeth into me! I couldn't write with that hand for a whole day!

This cat deliberatly claws people to move them off chairs.

But how does this relate to dogs do you say? Well, I have a beautiful long-haired German Shepherd called Tara, and I brought her to my mates house one day. When Frank sees Tara, instead if backing off, he attacked her! What kind of mental devil cat attacks a German Shepherd?! Frank does. But thats not all- he then proceede to spend the rest of the day, lying on top of the garden shed, dangling his paws just out of reach of my dog.

There is no way Frank would ever be dogfood. In fact, I'm pretty sure I saw a Border Collie in his kibble bowl last time I was over.

True story!

I'd blow the brains out of any cat that bit me with my shotgun. And I'm not joking. I'd do the same to any dog that bit me.
I hate cats.

Cats are a lot dumber than dogs, also. Most of the reason people think cats are smart is because they are projecting personalities onto them. In any sort of controlled test, it becomes obvious that dogs are far smarter.

If I catch a cat wandering round my property more than twice I let the dogs after it, too. People should keep their verminous, disease spreading, ecosystem destroying moggies under control.

I agree with Da Boss, except I'd never shoot a dog. Having grown up with them, I love them too much; my family owns four! Our greyhound, Kye, is so fething thick though. When you're eating dinner, he'll stand in front of you and stare at it, and when you tell him to go away he ignores you. Slap him on the head, and he doesn't feel it. Yell at him, and he just looks at you innocently.

It drives me nuts.

We had a dog (Red cattledog/dingo cross) called 'brick' (as in 'thick as a'). Brick used to nip the fetlocks of my neighbour's horse (which was a Percheron x) and was kicked in the head a number of times for his trouble. He didn't learn.

Hardly proof of intelligence in dogs there.

Yes, I'm a cat person.

Cats are boring. They don't return love, they just let you pet them.

Besides, you can't play fetch or go hunting with a cat.

Who you kidding
you haven't met baggins.
who sits on my sholders nibbling my ears.
when i'm in the garden.
Much to the amusement of my neighbors.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Cats are boring. They don't return love, they just let you pet them.

Besides, you can't play fetch or go hunting with a cat.

I don't need a dog to play fetch. I have nephews for that.

Besides, fetch is a lame game. Why throw it away if you want it back?

Although going out bush with some dogs and a shotgun is fun - you tend to run out of dogs eventually.

Cheese Elemental wrote:Cats are boring. They don't return love, they just let you pet them.

Besides, you can't play fetch or go hunting with a cat.

Maybe your cats don't return love. Mines an affectionate ball of fluff. As for fetch, I don't miss it. You can't go hunting with most dogs.

Da Boss wrote:Most of the reason people think cats are smart is because they are projecting personalities onto them. In any sort of controlled test, it becomes obvious that dogs are far smarter.

The truth.

But part of the fun of owning cats is being able to consistently outwit them. I wouldn't want a pet that was too smart, it would be too much trouble.

I had 2 cats in college. We used to play tricks on them all the time, lot's of fun. The favorite was hooking them together by the collar, and then watching them try to walk in opposite directions.

"Besides, you can't play fetch with a cat"

actually, my sister's cat, Noodle/the sneak (her name, my name, her name was eventually accepted, but I still calls him the sneak because he's a vicious little sneaky black cat similar to Frank) plays fetch.
We have this pine tree... sort of... it's the one with dangly thread like needles, can't remember its technical name... Anyway, this cat LOVES to fetch them. course, he doesn't do that too well... he catches them, then sorta brings them closer, then wanders off in wait of the next one. It's actually hilarious the lengths he'd go to to get these things. He'd completely back flip in the air to get them. usually without success, but sometimes he'd get them.
And then he'd be a jerk and bite the hell out of us when we tried to pet him for being such an awesome cat. Man, I hate this cat. but he is funny.

Now I want a cat even moar. -.-

CaptainCommunsism wrote:the sneak

Yeah the whole cats don't play fetch is bull. I have taught my cat to fetch.

Also, as for affection...I have learned one thing in my life dealing with cats and seeing how others deal with cats. What you teach a cat as a kitten is so in its life.

A couple of examples.

..My wife had a cat before we were married. Her idea of playing with the cat was wrestling/play fighting. Once the cat was older/stronger/ more aggressive..she complained that he was evil and always wanted to fight. Well then..he thinks is playing because that is what he was shown.

..One of my friends had a cat that he got when he was going through a rough emotional time in his life. I was not there for it, but I could easily imagine him being very affectionate with the kitten as it was young. Guess what..till the day she passed (12 year old) she would never turn down a scratch behind the ears or under the chin.

...Another is of one of my current cats. I noticed my kittens affection for small pom pom little yarn balls. Like the 1/2" variety. When he was a kitten I had one on a string that I would dangle and play with him. Once it came off the string while playing and he chased it down and brought it back to me. After a bit more work, he regularly chases that darn thing. Granted, he is not as blindingly obedient about the return part as a dog may be, but he normally bring its back after a few seconds of batting it around so I may toss it again.

Oh yeah...as for the smart part.....toys on strings don't last long at my house. After a couple of days my cat has figured out that if he pins the toy to the ground..he can bite through the string that holds the toy allowing him un-molested time alone with said toy.

Anecdote does not equal data. Dogs are smarter, by any metric we measure smartness on.

Not saying cats can't be trained, but they're harder to train than dogs, because they are dumber.

Oh, and cats can be affectionate, it's true. But they're still dumb verminous moggies that do horrible damage to ecosystems because cat owners aren't forced to control them.

Don't worry, I have a plan!

Da Boss wrote: Dogs are smarter, by any metric we measure smartness on.

That's not really true since any comparison of intelligence, as thing in itself, between species is based on anthropomorphic assumptions. This gets even more problematic when looking at breed variation, and the intellectual capacity being tested.

There have been tests in which cats have produced results comparable to those of monkeys, which, to my knowledge, dogs have never done.

Hmmm. Well, I'll dig out my behavioural ecology book later if I have the time and inclination.

Dogs are better at conceptualising, investigating and socialising, as far as I'm aware. What did cats do as well as monkeys?