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thenoobbomb wrote:

Melissia wrote:Both the imperial and stormcloak have good endings...

Spoiler:

The Thalmor are trying to get people to stop worshipping in Talos because if nobody worships Talos all of reality will cease to exist and they think that they can make use of this... somehow... to make only high elves exist, even though they won't be in existence to do so.

So stormcloaks have a nice ending because they prevent this outright-- Talos worship is free in their reign, and every Thalmor in the region get brutally murdered, and I'm okay with that.

At the same time... the Imperials seem to be much... nicer to everyone. Especially when you take over the last Stormcloak fortress-- the guy who becomes Jarl there is practically a saint. And of course, keeping the Empire together screws the Thalmor over too, as this strengthens the Empire to help them fight back against the Thalmor (especially after I've slaughtered every Thalmor I legally could). And besides, the Empire doesn't really ban Talos worship anyway, not in Skyrim at least, they're only humoring the Thalmor until they're strong enough to fight back.

Spoiler:

Sp putting Ulfric's head on a stake and slaughter every Talos worshipper is nice?

He tried to seccede skyrim from the empire, created a rebellion, and killed the high king of skyrim.

Besides, he was dead, it's not as if he would mind

Also, you don't have to put every talos worshipper's head on a stake.

That's the Thalmor, not the Empire. As I said, the Empire tolerates Talos worship, despite the decree by the Thalmor.

Melissia wrote:Also, you don't have to put every talos worshipper's head on a stake.

That's the Thalmor, not the Empire. As I said, the Empire tolerates Talos worship, despite the decree by the Thalmor.

As proven by

This is also referenced by the fact that when you first ask about Talos worshipping in Riverwood, it is mentioned that no one really cared about the little Talos shrines that people had... at least not until Ulfric yelled angrily at the High King.

Also, Whiterun has a massive Talos shrine in the middle of it, you pass by it every time you go to Dragonreach.

If you call a small statue placed on a wall and a mad cretin ranting and raving at you, a 'massive Talos shrine' then yes, it does have one

That guy pisses me off so bad

I thought there was something behind that shrine that was dedicated to Talos?

There might be, but I haven't noticed it or i've forgotten it. Whiterun gets boring after a while, and I tend to just watch the floor and directly ahead of me, so anything outside of that linear sight inside a town largely gets ignored.

Melissia wrote:I thought there was something behind that shrine that was dedicated to Talos?

Nope, just a statue.

... of Talos?

Presumably.

It is Mel. Quite a large one at that

Do you even get ending screens in skyrim like in the Fallout games? I beat the main quest and nothing happened.

Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

^Lol.

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Avatar 720 wrote:Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

I agree with you very much there. Especially if you get yourself up to 100 Sneak.

Swordwind wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

I agree with you very much there. Especially if you get yourself up to 100 Sneak.

That was how I spent the first 2 hours of game play. Just sit there and stab the guy that follows you into the cave. He can't attack back, so you're free to just stab him to death... over and over and over and over... I left at lvl 18 with 100 sneak, like 25 one hand, and 35 destro...

Alfndrate wrote:

Swordwind wrote:

Avatar 720 wrote:Since my first attempt at an assassin sort of character was a bit of a failure, I decided to try again with a different character, and instantly found how awesome it is running around with two daggers and being all but invisible.

I've been about 1 foot from someone's face and been undetected, almost run into someone walking towards me and stayed undetected, opened up someone's back without the guy next to him realising...

I probably only need the one dagger, since I get x30 damage due to the x15 perk and Shrouded Gloves, so shouldn't have to dual power attack anything from the shadows to kill it, but hell it's fun to simply use nothing but daggers.

It makes those times where you feth up much more interesting than they are when you simply pull two war axes out of your arse, switch to Unrelenting Force or Marked for Death, pop a few potions, don your fighting armour and go to town on those sorry SoBs. I've quite taken to fighting my way out of things using only my daggers, my cunning, and the Disarm shout, and it makes it all the more epic when you win.

I agree with you very much there. Especially if you get yourself up to 100 Sneak.

That was how I spent the first 2 hours of game play. Just sit there and stab the guy that follows you into the cave. He can't attack back, so you're free to just stab him to death... over and over and over and over... I left at lvl 18 with 100 sneak, like 25 one hand, and 35 destro...

1. Find cave with blind man in it.
2. Face wall behind him.
3. Press autorun after sneaking.
4.???
5. Profit!

I'm a bow/one-handed assassin myself. I'm a Ninja in Daedric armor and a Blades sword

Some folks say magic is easy-mode but the bow is really powerful especially combined with sneak bonus damage. What's more the AI enemies have a tendency to go to where an arrow landed or where a guy gets killed making it even easier.

while powerful, killing bandits with headshots and sneak finishers doesn't get old. I love the backstab and throat slitting animations for the stealth kills. Reminds me of my other favorite game series: Tenchu.

So much so that lately I've been doing "Tenchu"-style dungeon and fort runs where I kill everyone inside without getting detected or killing "Innocents" . If I get detected I reload. I've even managed to complete the Thieves' Guild quest in Markarth without killing anyone and without invisibility potions

Thieve's guild quest in Markarth... the one where you get the stone rubbing? I too did that without potions, but I honestly can't resist a good stealth kill, so I left a trail of bodies in my wake.

Anyone else a bit ticked off at how random sneak seems when you're playing on Master? Some enemies don't notice me if I run around in circles around them, others spot me and kill me as if they had some sort of orbital super-scanner. It gets really old to walk around a corner only to have some random forsworn forager fire a flippin 7 damage arrow at you and take 300 damage, despite having over 300 armour.

Oh, and Alduin redux was a pretty silly fight too: died five times because he bugged out and stayed immortal despite me shouting him down, killed him when he stopped bugging. All I have is 100 blacksmithing glass daggers and armour. The fact that there's no way to sneak attack him (like many other major quests) kinda kills the rogue aspect of it too IMO.

Swordwind wrote:1. Find cave with blind man in it.
2. Face wall behind him.
3. Press autorun after sneaking.
4.???
5. Profit!

Mind telling me how to autorun on an xBox? Not all of us want to play this on a PC.


Also, for anyone that doesn't mind playing it on a PC, Steam has Skyrim today at 33% off...

Redguard was cool....duelist person for the win! (The game, not the race....though Redguards are cool too)

I've been playing it and some person who I was helping to slay a Lich walked in the of my axe as I swang it and I killed her in 1 hit, failed the quest and the Lich reanimated her. I re-loaded it and killed him without killing her the seconded time.

Getting pretty sick of NPC followers now. The quest you have to do for the battle-born (or might be grey-mane...) bloke to rescue his brother is the worst.

You have to assault Northwatch Hold, full of Thalmor Elven Guards and mages, with two blokes in barbarian gear and one bloke in barbarian gear who is essential, so will draw all the elves, fall to his knees, and get back up and draw them again whenever you attempt to make a stealthy kill.

I assaulted the hold, stealth killed two elves outside it, then was left running away from the ones that kept chasing me due to the stupidity of the NPCs. I wish there was an option to tell them to wait like there are with companion followers.

Inside the hold was the worst, I couldn't even sneak because the lumbering behemoth behind me made such a racket, and since he doesn't count as a companion follower, he will trigger the eye when you sneak into his view, so I never actually knew if I was discovered or not.

Thank the Divines for the console and the 'Disable' function.

Avatar 720 wrote:Getting pretty sick of NPC followers now. The quest you have to do for the battle-born (or might be grey-mane...) bloke to rescue his brother is the worst.

You have to assault Northwatch Hold, full of Thalmor Elven Guards and mages, with two blokes in barbarian gear and one bloke in barbarian gear who is essential, so will draw all the elves, fall to his knees, and get back up and draw them again whenever you attempt to make a stealthy kill.

I assaulted the hold, stealth killed two elves outside it, then was left running away from the ones that kept chasing me due to the stupidity of the NPCs. I wish there was an option to tell them to wait like there are with companion followers.

Inside the hold was the worst, I couldn't even sneak because the lumbering behemoth behind me made such a racket, and since he doesn't count as a companion follower, he will trigger the eye when you sneak into his view, so I never actually knew if I was discovered or not.

Thank the Divines for the console and the 'Disable' function.

You can go that quest alone, just got to tell the main guy that you can handle it yourself.

Is that before or after he tells you to meet him there? Because he didn't have that option at the fort, and I had no idea what would happen before it all went boobs skyward.

I went there without him as a follower.