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So, long story short, I lent my younger Brother €250 to pay for a deposit on a place to live near his college.
I don't particularly care when he pays it back, he is a poor college student after all.

I just found out he bought a €200 phone yesterday because his old one was "like a year old now".

Now, I am furious. Some have told me to calm the feth down, but I think this is the one time I can be justified in loosing my cool. He has owed me this money for over 4 months, and I would have gladly not cared if it had taken him another 4, 8 or 16 months to give it back. What infuriates me is that he had the money, but decided not to pay his dues because of the spoilt brat attitude him and his friends have.

I am only 21, is there really so much difference in attitude between my generation and my 19 year old brothers, or am I just oddly responsible and grumpy for my age?

Congratulations you are now an evil banker. The recession is now officially all your fault.

Get a stick. Get a nail. Put nail through top of stick.
In rapid motions, smack stick with nail against either 1. brother; 2. phone, whichever it comes into contact with first.

I would say that you've got the right to be pissed at this point. your brother is irresponsible. plain and simple. next time, (if there is a next time) suggest making him send you the receipt, and say you'll never offer him any money ever again if he pulls this gak again.

You're pretty responsible, and reasonable for being pissed. your brother should have owned up to his debts, not gone off and bought a cellphone after a year. Admittedly, I did something similar (signed a new contract, but old phone was crap) but this didn't cost anywhere near as much.

You should, however, calm down. keep your cool and just do as I suggested or something similar or fits the situation. I understand it's a complicated situation.

I'm 25(so not much older) and I'd be pissed, too. I could see up to about $50-75 USD where it wouldn't be a big issue for me, but for €250, I'd be a bit more wondering when at least some of it's coming back(without a good reason, anyway, such as your situation started).

But to spend €200, not paying you back, and then basically telling you? Sorry, I know he's your brother, but he's not being a spoiled brat, he's straight up being a selfish, irresponsible prick in that situation.

If he has a way to make enough for a phone that expensive, he has a way to make enough to pay you back some money.

Yea I'd make it clear to him that that behavior ranks on the level of d-bag and not something to be expected from a bro.

Handle it in a relatively civil manner since who knows when you might be the one asking him for money.

With the holidays right around the corner money might be even more tight than usual although if thats not the case since he bought that phone; perhaps he'll give you a gift to make it up. Or you could give him some strong hints towards such a notion.

Gwar! wrote:I just found out he bought a €200 phone yesterday because his old one was "like a year old now".

Fateweaver is going to rage so hard.

True, but mabye he simply underestimated the extent of Gwar!s brotherly emotions...
(jk)

I prefer to get my debts out of the way first, and in the case of 200+ I'd say fair dinkum it's about time he pays you back if he can afford it.

(I've never really had such problems lending money to my brother though. Takes him a while, but he'll do it.)

Frazzled wrote:Congratulations you are now an evil banker. The recession is now officially all your fault.

Get a stick. Get a nail. Put nail through top of stick.
In rapid motions, smack stick with nail against either 1. brother; 2. phone, whichever it comes into contact with first.

Well, we are of Jewish Blood, so it was our fault anyway!

But yes, I already told him, when he comes up here to work next weekend, he either has my money, sleeps under a bush or leaves with two less legs.

Sorry to hear it Gwar. Getting taken advantage of sucks... getting gak on by a family member stings particularly badly.

One thing I've learned in my time on this ball of dirt... friends may come and friends may go but it takes a family member to really screw you over.

@Gwar!: Or a combination of all three.

The Green Git wrote:One thing I've learned in my time on this ball of dirt... friends may come and friends may go but it takes a family member to really screw you over.

Too true mate.

However, the old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" has to come here. I actually thought I could trust him this time, but I learnt my lesson.

He is a massive prick anyway. My mother went to visit him one weekend when she was there for shopping. He actually refused to give her a single Euro to buy some milk so they could have tea together. I think I am just gonna cut him off and just ignore him from now on.

I have a better saying:

"Shame me once, nail board in your face"

Lord-Loss wrote:I have a better saying:

"Shame me once, nail board in your face"

This man is wise beyond his years!

@Lord-Loss: FTW.

Lord-Loss wrote:I have a better saying:

"Shame me once, nail board in your face"

Another graduate from the Frazzled school of business and social relations.

Well you are the older bro. NOOGIEZ!

Frazzled wrote:

Lord-Loss wrote:I have a better saying:

"Shame me once, nail board in your face"

Another graduate from the Frazzled school of business and social relations.

That's a school?

I thought you just smacked everyone with nail boards...

Shadowbrand wrote:Well you are the older bro. NOOGIEZ!

I also have about 200lb on him (We are Mario and Luigi, really. Italian Blood, I am the Older, Shorter Wider one and he is the Younger Taller Skinny one ).

Also, he just rang my mother (who he stays with when he is working) to tell her he is not staying there this weekend because he thinks I am gonna break his legs.

It would be funny were it not for the fact I know where he lives in college

You learn online from Frazz, like online college but he is not accredited so it is technically schooling on his part and being a student on our part.

Kanluwen wrote:That's a school?

I thought you just smacked everyone with nail boards...

That's the best kind of School!


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Fateweaver wrote:You learn online from Frazz, like online college but he is not accredited so it is technically schooling on his part and being a student on our part.

Oh hallow! Please get to raging. I was promised a Raging!

Well, you know, I'm not going to say anything against my own brothers and I'm not saint, God knows! But, just because someone is family doesn't mean they aren't an a hole.

After all, all a holes are related to someone in some way or other.

BTW you might want to start cultivating a lawn, because it takes years to get it up to the level that you really need to keep kids off it.

Okay I'll rage. Your bro **)*)*)*)^%#%$ worthless ^%$^#^^ lazy *%&$$$$ who is only helping to contribute to the waste problem.

Happy now?

So you're Jewish Luigi? Why is this not your title beneath your username?

Take his phone.

Sell his phone number to any number of telemarketer companies.

Enjoy the fallout.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:So you're Jewish Luigi? Why is this not your title beneath your username?

Because I am a Jewish Mario. $25 dollars for a Custom Title?





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ShumaGorath wrote:Take his phone.

I've told him, If he doesn't have the Cash, I want his Phone + €100 to cover the loss from selling it 2nd hand.

I've never understood why people 'loan' money to family, friends, or anyone else outside of a formal contract.

If I'm going to help out a friend/relative financially I just consider it a gift. If I don't want to give them a gift, I don't give them money.

Seriously, if I needed the money back I wouldn't be in a position to 'loan' them anything in the first place.

dogma wrote:I've never understood why people 'loan' money to family, friends, or anyone else outside of a formal contract.

If I'm going to help out a friend/relative financially I just consider it a gift. If I don't want to give them a gift, I don't give them money.

Seriously, if I needed the money back I wouldn't be in a position to 'loan' them anything in the first place.

Well, my issue isn't the money. I don't mind waiting for the money. What has fethed me off is that he has the money to pay back, but instead of being responsible and paying his dues, he buys a phone for no reason.

I mean, yeah, I got that. And I wasn't trying to criticize you. I was just wondering why someone (you?) would want the money back at all?