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I never had problems with borrowing some money to my brother.He always pays it back in some 2 or 3 days.

i would get the money then beat him up.

for the future as i always do, anything over £100 write a contract saves alot of trouble in the long run

Rage on him IMAGE DELETED BY MODQUISITION READ THE RULES PEOPLE

MeanGreenStompa wrote:Gwar, you are longterm unemployed and have gleefully told this forum how you enjoy claiming benefits.

The fact you can amass this amount means you have been lying to the welfare people. You must declare all savings to them.

So, the money your brother had is what he's taken from you that you have taken from the state. You seem, from what you've written, to have been committing benefit fraud.

Lolwhut?

Firstly, unemployment here in Ireland is €205 a week. Out of this, I have been saving €30-50 (if even possible) a week. My Rent is €100 a week, My Bills and other costs are €50-70 a week. I have 0 spare cash whatsoever.

The money I lent to my brother is from that €30-50 a week, saved over the course of 2 or 3 months. Of my saving, I actually have none left, as I have had to pay my TV Licence and buy a new Passport (which is a pain in the arse to organise from Ireland), buy insurance, pay medical bills (Ever had to pay €100 for A&E in the UK? No, I didn't think so) and a host of other costs.

Ah, so that money belonged to Irish tax payers.

Gotcha.

MODQUISITION. LETS GET OFF THE PERSONAL ASPECTS HERE. NOW.

MGS-GWAR DROP THE POINT.

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Re-opening at request. Lets keep off the personal people.

I think it bull gak Gwar always gets his threads re-opened. He must give magnificently when it counts.

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I reckon this thread's gonna get locked again.

Gwar! wrote:

dogma wrote:I've never understood why people 'loan' money to family, friends, or anyone else outside of a formal contract.

If I'm going to help out a friend/relative financially I just consider it a gift. If I don't want to give them a gift, I don't give them money.

Seriously, if I needed the money back I wouldn't be in a position to 'loan' them anything in the first place.

Well, my issue isn't the money. I don't mind waiting for the money. What has fethed me off is that he has the money to pay back, but instead of being responsible and paying his dues, he buys a phone for no reason.

Where in the rules does it say he has to pay you back before buying something else? I think that's a RAI interpretation.

Valhallan42nd wrote:Where in the rules does it say he has to pay you back before buying something else? I think that's a RAI interpretation.

It's just before "What happens if you don't and it involved a brick"

Valhallan42nd wrote:Where in the rules does it say he has to pay you back before buying something else? I think that's a RAI interpretation.

LULZ! It doesn't. If that was a rule, I would be very poor and destitute because my creditors would take the money I owe them before I could pay my rent, or buy food or diapers.
Like Gwar! said, it is principle...

Right lazy mode, cant be bothered fully reading the thread at this time.

any one sugested taking the phone as payment? or as a "deposit"? and if he buys a new 1 "to do" gim till he pays you back steal it again..... you get the picture....

Green Blow Fly wrote:I think it bull gak Gwar always gets his threads re-opened. He must give magnificently when it counts.

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Actually its because he is always helping people for rules .

AND here is the main point .

Gwar!'s posts arnt inflated by "post +1 !!!2@" posts *cough

All threads that are locked should stay locked as a matter of principle. I have seen many of Gwar's threads unlocked. No one else has access to this privilege. It has nothing to do with helping people with 40k rules. Policy should be consistent across the forums.

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Gwar! wrote:

Valhallan42nd wrote:Where in the rules does it say he has to pay you back before buying something else? I think that's a RAI interpretation.

It's just before "What happens if you don't and it involved a brick"

I'd recommend this gentleman's solution:



It's the second entry for the Google Image Search for "sock full of quarters". The grand flag of my Republic in the window makes the image oddly compelling.

Green Blow Fly wrote:All threads that are locked should stay locked as a matter of principle. I have seen many of Gwar's threads unlocked. No one else has access to this privilege. It has nothing to do with helping people with 40k rules. Policy should be consistent across the forums.

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I think now you fully understand Gwar!'s lament...

To play devil's advo... er... um, to play troll's advocate, Gwar was prolly posting as Modquisition was being instituted. It was a very small time frame from where I was sitting.
A matter of approx 2-3 mins. Maybe Gwar! didn't even know he was on Frazzled's lawn until it was too late... Just saying...


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I went back and looked, it was 30 seconds.

@V42: There is something patriotic about it, yes.

Gwar!, your little brother is taking you for granted and you are pissed at him for being immature. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't this going on wherever there are little brothers and big brothers? He'll figure it out one day. In the meantime, perhaps a reasonable talking to? And not lending any more money, of course.

That or not be 12 and crying... bbbbuuuuttttt mmmmmooooommmmmm!!!!!! How come he gets tooooooooo! I hope you don't have kids....hahaha

Green Blow Fly wrote:. Policy should be consistent across the forums.

We are all normally drunk...

..it's the only way we cope.

To be fair, mods love derailing threads as much as any of us. See above.

Karma can be a bitch. But also delicious sometimes.

Indeed.

Either your brother has now paid for his deposit and has therefore returned that money to at least one lucky Irish taxpayer (or even to the college if they own the property, so they made a contribution to the education system), or the hardworking folks of Ireland have given your brother the early Christmas present of a spanky new phone.

Neither is cause for you to be upset, if you think of it from that perspective. In fact, removing any notion of your ownership of the money is the best way to take away that stress and anger you're bottling up.


EXALT! You lost nothing!

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reds8n wrote:

Green Blow Fly wrote:. Policy should be consistent across the forums.

We are all normally drunk...

..it's the only way we cope.

We should just replace the mod tags with [Drunk Overlord]

Not sure how unemployment works in Ireland but don't you actually have to have had a job to collect unemployment over in Ireland? Meaning he (Gwar) has already done his share to help society over there.

I know in the US of A unemployment is a totally far cry from welfare. In order to get welfare in the states you don't actually need to do anything except not have a job (or work very very few hours), it's adjusted by how many kids you have, etc, etc, etc... Unemployment though is only garnered when you have worked a certain amount of time at your job, your employer deems you worthy of unemployment and the unemployment agency on both state and federal levels deems you qualifying and it is typically 67% of your highest AGI quarter going back 18 months but there is a cap on it as well. If I was working pipeline making $1800/week my unemployment will top off at $650/week.

So I don't get how Gwar is in the wrong doing for collecting unemployment benefits. If it works like the US I'm sure it's not exactly the best way to live and he obviously would have had to have had a job to even get unemployment so comparing Gwar to some welfare loser who won't even lift a finger and that his brother deserves the cell phone because Ireland paid for it is a flat out personal attack and a bunch of bullshite as well.

I find myself agreeing with Fateweaver...whats wrong with me?

Maybe because for once you know the facts but have no choice but to agree instead of arguing with me for the sake of argument?

Well at least his brother apparently has a job.

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