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I have not seen this show before and have heard good things about it. I recently watched the first four episodes and have to say, while mildly amused, I'm not impressed. It is not the shoestring budget (being an old Doctor Who fan) I just feel it is lacking on a few levels. And I can't stand Rimmer (although that is kind of the point).
Anyway, what I am asking is... Is it worth it to stick it out with the knowledge that it evolves or are these first few episodes pretty indicative of what the entire multiple-series run is like?
GoFenris wrote:IAnyway, what I am asking is... Is it worth it to stick it out with the knowledge that it evolves or are these first few episodes pretty indicative of what the entire multiple-series run is like?
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It get's much better. Hits a zenith around season 4 or 5...bit ropey thereafter. First series really is them finding their feet, it does get better.
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Well cool! At only 6 episodes a series I can definitely stick it out.
Also, on a side note, I now understand Stelek's avatar, it fits! (If you don't remember, he had a picture of Rimmer with the H and a simple .gif flashing, "You are a Smegging Smeghead." Or something along those lines. Very fitting his avatar being Rimmer.
A the good old times.Horrible guitar player,vindaloo,maid robot-Kryten and self loathing hologram.
One question why do the britain's tv shows have so little episodes?Five or six per season that's the only thing that I dislike about their TV shows.
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IvanTih wrote:A the good old times.Horrible guitar player,vindaloo,maid robot-Kryten and self loathing hologram.
One question why do the britain's tv shows have so little episodes?Five or six per season that's the only thing that I dislike about their TV shows.
Sometimes it is better. The Office (as much as I liked the British version) really was just about right as they could not really continue David Brent's craziness and keep it realistic. Him getting fired (and subsequently winning his lawsuit against Wernham-Hogg in the specials) really helped the realistic feel.
This against the U.S. version of The Office and its 24 episode seasons moves it into a sort-of hyper-reality. It is still funny but less of that "train wreck" realistic quality of the original.
I quite liked the First series - but it is very much 'of the time' and seems rather unsophisticated compared to some modern stuff. It DOES get better as it goes on, mind.
IvanTih wrote:A the good old times.Horrible guitar player,vindaloo,maid robot-Kryten and self loathing hologram.
One question why do the britain's tv shows have so little episodes?Five or six per season that's the only thing that I dislike about their TV shows.
It's because British TV is the best in the world and we have loads more good ideas than everyone else so we don't need to try and drag out a series for 18 episodes.
Kilkrazy wrote:It's because British TV is the best in the world and we have loads more good ideas than everyone else so we don't need to try and drag out a series for 18 episodes.
Although I suspect this may be written sarcastically, I have to agree as I tend to watch MUCH more British TV than American. I will say that the short six episode series format certainly allows a company to take more of a risk on an idea since financially they are only committed to only six episodes at a time.
I also imagines it pushes the writers to really streamline their style and figure out creative ways to say what they want to say within the limited arch.
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Series like Lost just floundered under the weight of expectation of writing 18 episodes and the need to invent more gratuitous mysteries to keep extending the franchise.
(Admittedly, US episodes are shorter than British, especially BBC because of the adverts.)
Fawlty Towers only ever had 12 episodes and is regarded 30 years later as a comedy classic. They said what needed to be said, and stopped.
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That started a couple of weeks ago down here. Didn't see it last night, but it's good for a laugh. Hardly a quiz show though, because everyone on the panel (including Stephen Fry) spend most of the time laughing their arses off.
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Around here where I live,Red Dwarf and Black Adder used to play back to back every Saturday night followed by Dr Who.
I wasn't impressed by the early Red Dwarf episodes, but they got better as the series went on. My kids are now Red Dwarf /Dr. Who addicts. I can only blame myself...
Ozymandias wrote:Red Dwarf was great! It takes a few seasons for the characters to really evolve but like people have said series 3-5 are much better than 1.
As for British TV in general, recently the wife and I got hooked on "The IT Crowd":
You really should try "Peep Show", "The Day Today" and "Brasseye"...I suspect you'd enjoy them mightily.
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We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
When they moved away from the live audience the appeal of red dwarf really dropped off.
And seeason 1 is very shaky.
But it does get much better.
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Ozymandias wrote:Red Dwarf was great! It takes a few seasons for the characters to really evolve but like people have said series 3-5 are much better than 1.
As for British TV in general, recently the wife and I got hooked on "The IT Crowd":
You really should try "Peep Show", "The Day Today" and "Brasseye"...I suspect you'd enjoy them mightily.
Hmmm... I'll have to check them out.
Oh and "No Heroics" is great as well.
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This conversation has even begun to boggle my internet-hardened mind.
SElect episodes of both Peep Show and Brasseye can be found on the Channel 4 website.
Does have some strong language and themes in parts...
... "cake"...
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
Polymorph and Marooned are really where the show got better. Quarantine is my favorite I think. I get a lot of British show's from my friend, and so far I've really liked everyone he's recommended. One that I haven't seen mentioned is Benidorm. Friggin hilarious 12 episodes. There's some other shows that aren't funny but very interesting. Super Size Me is pretty cool, Ross Kemp's: Gangs, Brainiac, Horizon. I love IT Crowd too, Moss is my hero. I'm glad they're doing a 4th season, but I hope it doesnt get messed up. If you like Roy, he's in another British comedy call FM.
I just completed Series II and it was actually much better right from the first episode. The writing and jokes were much tighter and Rimmer was toned down a bit (thank gawd).
I like Nick Frost and Kevin Eldon as much as the next man, but talk about formulaic - there is more creativity in one episode of The Boosh than an entire series of Hyperdrive.
Next you'll be saying you watch 'My Family'....
