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it is this


of course it is necrons!

Holy I've just seen a teaser video on the GW website and I think that maybe, just maybe Necrons are going to be released soon...

...oh wait, I knew that already.

I did like the tagline though

"And now, to round off today's post, a hint of what's to come (and no, it's not the ghost of Christmas Future...)" is stated above the video.

It is not the ghost of christmas future...perhaps the GHOST of the PAST?! :-o

Better late than never, I suppose? If they dropped this at the beginning of October or in September, it would have been more effective.

Brother SRM wrote:Better late than never, I suppose? If they dropped this at the beginning of October or in September, it would have been more effective.

If all this information hadn't been leaked, it would have been more effective.

As I said though. It's not "for us". It's for the folks who don't spend time on these forums, who don't actively seek out rumors, and generally are content with not knowing every single detail.

Well I just got all the information on the new Necrons from Games Workshop (such as pricing and units available), and it's pretty sweet.

I posted a bunch of what I could say on my blog
http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/n...gw-teaser.html

Kesher wrote:Well I just got all the information on the new Necrons from Games Workshop (such as pricing and units available), and it's pretty sweet.

I posted a bunch of what I could say on my blog
http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/n...gw-teaser.html

I think you have a problem there...

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Kesher wrote:Well I just got all the information on the new Necrons from Games Workshop (such as pricing and units available), and it's pretty sweet.

I posted a bunch of what I could say on my blog
http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/n...gw-teaser.html

I think you have a problem there...

Kesher's Link wrote:Well I just got all the information on the new Necrons from Games Workshop (such as pricing and units available), and it's pretty sweet.

We can't say much about the information on here, because of my trade sales agreement that I respect for the sake of all retailers around the world.

We can however say that there are some units making a return from the old book, some that didn't make the new release, and some coming back in FINECAST!

We can also take pre-orders over the phone, for anything you may be wanting to pick up for the new release.

Everything is set to come out on November 5th like we have been hearing about, and the official GW public announcement looks like it will be October 29th according to the video below.

So check out the Games Workshop's site then for all the official news, pictures, and more.

For now you can stop by the store or call 804-464-1873 to Pre-Order anything you may be interested in.

GW also released this teaser video today. Enjoy -MBG

http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/news-new-necrons-confirmed-gw-teaser.html


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So yeah, nothing new out of that.

http://blog.spikeybits.com/2011/10/news-new-necrons-confirmed-gw-teaser.html

Sigh.... Rob isn't what you'd call computer literate.


...or literate.

Here's NECRON PRODUCT INFO from THE WAR STORE:
http://www.thewarstore.com/

SKU ItemName MSRP PRICE

49-01 CODEX NECRONS ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

49-06 NECRON WARRIORS ~ NOV 5 35.00 28.00

49-07 NECRON LYCHGUARD ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

49-08 NECRON DESTROYER ~ NOV 5 20.00 16.00

49-09 NECRON MONOLITH ~ NOV 5 66.00 52.80

49-10 NECRON IMMORTALS ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

49-11 GHOST/DOOMSDAY ARK ~ NOV 5 49.50 39.60

49-12 CATACOMB CMD BARGE ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

THE NECRONS ARE COMING! 

The above are the Necron items we should have in stock by Nov 5. Any other items are either releasing later in the month or are finecast. We are working to get Necron finecast items in stock, but I am not sure that we will have access to them. The above is all the Necrons we can take orders for right now.

If you would like to place an order please give us a phone call or email us a list of what you would like to get and we can email you a quote. We will set up preorders to bill in early November.

No mention of wraiths on the plastic or finecast lists; same deal with the walker.

Kinda depressing. Hopefully, they don't take forever with wave 2

Praxiss wrote:in fairness, if you coudl field ACTUAL C'Tan, their stats (not to mention their points cost) would be horrific. i mean, they're gods! You'd have to look at Apoc Gargantuan creture kind of states!
At least with the shards you can gve them non-game brakign stats and explain by saying they are just a small piece of the god in question.

This is not necessarily the case. As I have stated before, creative quality writing could have easily met all the goals for the new codex.

Here are my perceived goals;

1 - Give the ctan tabletop stats that are not godlike, but make sense fluff wise.
2 - give lords more personality and focus

This EASILY could have been done.

For example;

The star gods are all powerful...on their scale of time and space.
Sure, the Deceiver could halt fusion in the heart of a sun...it takes him two thousand years to do it....a mere blink of an eye in the galactic scale (the scale they live in, and have lived in for BILLIONS of years). If the deceiver wanted to kill everyone on earth, he would travel to the core, and dissolve the magnetic field over the course of two thousand years.
Thats the power of star gods. Or he would bathe them with radiation that would kill them in a generation...this is how beings of that magnitude work.

However, when they have their essence condensed and forced into a micro form (the living metal body) they have a hard time focusing their attention and power at such a small scale. They are not used to focusing energies to the size of a tank or a man, or even a city...they are used to manipulating solar flares and black holes over thousands of years.
Certainly, then can affect the world at that level...and their statlines represent that. Just as an olympic weight lifter would have a hard time using a mirco screwdriver that is only the size of his fingernail...it is not easy to focus on that scale.
They are never killed in battle, their containment bodies are breached....letting them out, and it may take them years to change forms....beings that live for billions of years do not operate with logic or methods that we can relate to.

Also, the ctan, being virtually ageless....would they care about any one planet? The deceiver likes to build plans that may take thousands of years to unfold.
Maybe he wanted the necrons to ally with the blood angels....as part of a plan that will make sense in warhammer 45k. He is millions of years old....we have less of a chance to comprehend any single event in their scale than an ant would understand the words on a computer screen inside the house his anthill sits near.

Also, on the lords;
With more tomb worlds opening, and without the logistical and communications network the old empire had, the ctan have to give more autonomy to the necron lords.
They can't be everywhere at once, so need a more decentralized command structure. Heck, it might even suit the whims of some of the ctan to let them compete against one another or go off on their own directions (or think they are) at times...after all, how well can anyone comprehend the tactical plan of a being older than the human race itself. Maybe one lord is getting off the master plan....he can be delt with in another 10,000 years....

Sure, this is just an example, something I whipped up in about 90 seconds....it has minor issues and holes in it, but the point is with creative writing the old fluff could have been maintained, new mechanical goals met, and this is just a rough draft.

Again, GW has some great rule writers, and some guys who are great writers for the black library....what they need are codex writers who are good a continuity and justification.

On sunday I played with my necrons using the new rules. I used my old list with the points reduced and updated, making some assumptions and using old rules.

I used:

Necron Lord (using the old cost and rules)
10 Necron warriorsx2
10 immortals
3 Destroyers with heavy gaussx2
10 scarabs
2 Tomb Spyders
The Monolith

We played seized ground and dawn of war deployment. The necrons did a really good job...did I mention it was against IG?

Who won? What was the kill point tally?

Kanluwen wrote:If all this information hadn't been leaked, it would have been more effective.

As I said though. It's not "for us". It's for the folks who don't spend time on these forums, who don't actively seek out rumors, and generally are content with not knowing every single detail.

You really will defend anything they do, won't you?

The truth is GW could have revealed all this stuff ages ago, started using their website and their magazine to build hype, show off the models, show battle reports, do bits of fiction, have the designers talk about the new direction, and so on. They didn't. Instead they got angry that someone leaked it, sent C&D's, and put up a crappy video.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:If all this information hadn't been leaked, it would have been more effective.

As I said though. It's not "for us". It's for the folks who don't spend time on these forums, who don't actively seek out rumors, and generally are content with not knowing every single detail.

You really will defend anything they do, won't you?

You really will decry anything, won't you?

The truth is GW could have revealed all this stuff ages ago, started using their website and their magazine to build hype, show off the models, show battle reports, do bits of fiction, have the designers talk about the new direction, and so on. They didn't. Instead they got angry that someone leaked it, sent C&D's, and put up a crappy video.

Gee. A company getting angry that someone(likely under a NDA) leaked something.

It's almost as if there's a contract in place that was breached!

I said in the other thread on this topic that it's not necessarily a good tactic. It's their tactic however.

Definitely in there

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i58gku8wePE&feature=player_embedded#t=29s

Thats a few seconds before the flash. I can't take a screenshot on this computer. Its a Necron symbol with a small circle within the top of the ankh.

H.B.M.C. wrote:The truth is GW could have revealed all this stuff ages ago, started using their website and their magazine to build hype, show off the models, show battle reports, do bits of fiction, have the designers talk about the new direction, and so on. They didn't. Instead they got angry that someone leaked it, sent C&D's, and put up a crappy video.

This is the heart of the issue for me. GW put a staggering amount of effort into anti-marketing that you wonder what they could achieve if they redirected their energies into proper promotional activity.

Welp, just pre-ordered the codex, 20 Immortals and 10 Lychguard at my LGS to suppliment what I already have....early x-mas present from my Brother in Law.

davethepak wrote:
Also, on the lords;
With more tomb worlds opening, and without the logistical and communications network the old empire had, the ctan have to give more autonomy to the necron lords.
They can't be everywhere at once, so need a more decentralized command structure. Heck, it might even suit the whims of some of the ctan to let them compete against one another or go off on their own directions (or think they are) at times...after all, how well can anyone comprehend the tactical plan of a being older than the human race itself. Maybe one lord is getting off the master plan....he can be delt with in another 10,000 years....

This. I never really liked the C'Tan being thrown out of the picture, and created exactly this image you just described in my mind, that, in my opinion might have suited the Necron fluff more.
No unhappy old Necron players whining about their fluff destroyed, and still more personality and individualism in order for players to theme their armies around.

I still prefer the old fluff (in general) but I keep an open mind. After all, everything changes.

tetrisphreak wrote:Who won? What was the kill point tally?

I won, One of the objectives was mine and I contested the second one with scarabs.

I killed...at least 30 IG's plus 2 leman russes and a valkyria.

He killed all but one of my destroyers, 6 Immortals, My first necron warrior squad and my Monolith

Kilink wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:Who won? What was the kill point tally?

I won, One of the objectives was mine and I contested the second one with scarabs.

I killed...at least 30 IG's plus 2 leman russes and a valkyria.

He killed all but one of my destroyers, 6 Immortals, My first necron warrior squad and my Monolith

Really? Holy crap, that's pretty impressive.

...you remembered that Immortals are only T4 now, right?

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Kilink wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:Who won? What was the kill point tally?

I won, One of the objectives was mine and I contested the second one with scarabs.

I killed...at least 30 IG's plus 2 leman russes and a valkyria.

He killed all but one of my destroyers, 6 Immortals, My first necron warrior squad and my Monolith

Really? Holy crap, that's pretty impressive.

...you remembered that Immortals are only T4 now, right?

Yes, and the Gauss Blaster is Rapid Fire. The Destroyers killed the 2 leman russes, the scarabs ate up the valkyria leaving it at -5 AV(!!!) and the monolith was the one responsible for the 30 IG's

Also a Quimera was Immobilized and shaken on turn 1 by the Warrior Squad that had taken one of the points.

He then proceeded to template my ass off but I still won 1 Objective to none

Kilink wrote:

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Kilink wrote:

tetrisphreak wrote:Who won? What was the kill point tally?

I won, One of the objectives was mine and I contested the second one with scarabs.

I killed...at least 30 IG's plus 2 leman russes and a valkyria.

He killed all but one of my destroyers, 6 Immortals, My first necron warrior squad and my Monolith

Really? Holy crap, that's pretty impressive.

...you remembered that Immortals are only T4 now, right?

Yes, and the Gauss Blaster is Rapid Fire. The Destroyers killed the 2 leman russes, the scarabs ate up the valkyria leaving it at -5 AV(!!!) and the monolith was the one responsible for the 30 IG's

Also a Quimera was Immobilized and shaken on turn 1 by the Warrior Squad that had taken one of the points.

He then proceeded to template my ass off but I still won 1 Objective to none

Oh wow...That's pretty damn good.
I think it's safe to say now that the crons are playable again.

CthuluIsSpy wrote:

Oh wow...That's pretty damn good.
I think it's safe to say now that the crons are playable again.

Probably, yes, maybe I was just lucky. After the destroyers died, though, I didn't really have any anti-tank units and he still had 2 Chimeras and 2 Leman Russ. I misplaced the monolith and he was victim to melta and exploded on the only die that penetrated(lucky...)

Also I didn't field more scarabs...because I only have 10. Lets hope that with krypteks and more scarabs we can have a final decision. Though after I fielded all that I still had 150 pts left

@Yakface
Can you share more information on the Lord's Wargear?
We haven't heard anything on the Sempirternal Weave or the Tesserect Labyrinth.

(And Can someone PLEASE add these words to the Dakka Dictionary tool?!?)

A box of 10 necrons sure is expensive when they went down in points have no options

Box is 12 necrons with 3 scarab swarms

BrassScorpion wrote:Here's NECRON PRODUCT INFO from THE WAR STORE:
http://www.thewarstore.com/

SKU ItemName MSRP PRICE

49-01 CODEX NECRONS ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

49-06 NECRON WARRIORS ~ NOV 5 35.00 28.00

49-07 NECRON LYCHGUARD ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

49-08 NECRON DESTROYER ~ NOV 5 20.00 16.00

49-09 NECRON MONOLITH ~ NOV 5 66.00 52.80

49-10 NECRON IMMORTALS ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

49-11 GHOST/DOOMSDAY ARK ~ NOV 5 49.50 39.60

49-12 CATACOMB CMD BARGE ~ NOV 5 33.00 26.40

THE NECRONS ARE COMING! 

The above are the Necron items we should have in stock by Nov 5. Any other items are either releasing later in the month or are finecast. We are working to get Necron finecast items in stock, but I am not sure that we will have access to them. The above is all the Necrons we can take orders for right now.

If you would like to place an order please give us a phone call or email us a list of what you would like to get and we can email you a quote. We will set up preorders to bill in early November.

Any one been in contact with them to find out if the immortal and lychguard kits are dual kits?

Kanluwen wrote:

Brother SRM wrote:Better late than never, I suppose? If they dropped this at the beginning of October or in September, it would have been more effective.

If all this information hadn't been leaked, it would have been more effective.

As I said though. It's not "for us". It's for the folks who don't spend time on these forums, who don't actively seek out rumors, and generally are content with not knowing every single detail.

Do you really think that there are such people? People who don't visit discussion forums like this one, but still poke around in every corner of the official GW site?

Sounds like a stretch to me. Surely there are people who don't pursue online news, but their embargo probably covers forums and the games-workshop.com equally, and they stick to brick-and-mortar shop talk to acquire fresh info.