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so everyone talks about how bad the archon looks. i totally agree but i must say that i did like the dracon model a ton more. it just wasnt as...idiotic looking

Yeah I prefer the Dracon model... What's that staff though, what weapon is that supposed to be? =P

I just use the model off of vects crew. Pretty pimp for a archon/dracon and it has a punisher and t.helm nice.

Riffzor wrote:Yeah I prefer the Dracon model... What's that staff though, what weapon is that supposed to be? =P

its an agoniser works great on my buddy';s hive tyrant XD

Ah, yeah Agonisers are nice. Pretty much like a power weapon that wounds on 4+.. Or well, exactly like a powerweapon that wounds on a 4+.. And of course the vehicle glancing on a 6.

yup i use a retinue of incubi to beat the crap outta everything, and the agoniser kills everything too big for the incubi

Incubi are pretty darn expensive to be DE's though.. But then again, they're good. However, 25pts is pretty over-pricy, for that one would get a GK with a Stormbolter, Power Armour, and a Nemesis Force Weapon, and have MEQ stats but 5 WS. If I were an Incubi and saw one of those guys I'd kick whoever that's riding the Raider out of his seat, steal his spot and turn about going flat out in another direction.

SwanCo wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Yeah I prefer the Dracon model... What's that staff though, what weapon is that supposed to be? =P

its an agoniser works great on my buddy';s hive tyrant XD

In fact, it is not defined. Agonisers can have take a lot of shapes (blades, whips, staffs). That staff can be perfectly used as agoniser, punisher, power weapon...

Yeah I remember thinking that commander models for all other armies were amazing, so I was really excited to see what the DE commander would look like. Then I saw him with his princess hat and his banana fingers and was deeply disappointed. Worst commander model of all time.
Incubi have always been the best models imo though. I use Vect's bodyguard as my Incubi master. You can check him out in my gallery images.

Dark Eldars don't have Power Weapons =o

Riffzor wrote:Incubi are pretty darn expensive to be DE's though.. But then again, they're good. However, 25pts is pretty over-pricy, for that one would get a GK with a Stormbolter, Power Armour, and a Nemesis Force Weapon, and have MEQ stats but 5 WS. If I were an Incubi and saw one of those guys I'd kick whoever that's riding the Raider out of his seat, steal his spot and turn about going flat out in another direction.

Well, an incubi still attacks first, hits on 4+ and wounds on 4+ without save. It could be worse. (Asuming that PAGK use regular powerarmours and that nemesis force weapons don't have a "strikes first" rule. I haven't read DH codex so I don't know the rules)

Archonate wrote:Yeah I remember thinking that commander models for all other armies were amazing, so I was really excited to see what the DE commander would look like. Then I saw him with his princess hat and his banana fingers and was deeply disappointed. Worst commander model of all time.
Incubi have always been the best models imo though. I use Vect's bodyguard as my Incubi master. You can check him out in my gallery images.

Oh gawd, it's the guy with the awsome Dark Eldar Raiders!

Yeah I saw, they're really cool.

Edit: Just saw your other reply.

Yeah NFW don't have any strike first rules, however they've got S6 (model's strength +2) although they aren't power weapons unless used by a Brother-Captain or higher.

Riffzor wrote:Dark Eldars don't have Power Weapons =o

Check "one handed weapons" list in the armory page edit: the armory page in the DE codex, I mean xD

Riffzor wrote:Edit: Just saw your other reply.

Yeah NFW don't have any strike first rules, however they've got S6 (model's strength +2) although they aren't power weapons unless used by a Brother-Captain or higher.

If it doesn't affect his T value or his save, the chances of a grey knight to survive are still the same. 4+ 4+. But if they survive yes, our buddies are in a BIG trouble.

Erasoketa wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Dark Eldars don't have Power Weapons =o

Check "one handed weapons" list in the armory page edit: the armory page in the DE codex, I mean xD

Oh, hey they do have power wea-- 15pts for a Power Weapon? Don't they usually cost like nothing for Sargeants and stuffs for IG/Space marines and stuff?

Riffzor wrote:
it's the guy with the awsome Dark Eldar Raiders!

Yeah I saw, they're really cool.

Hey thanks man!

Riffzor wrote:

Erasoketa wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Dark Eldars don't have Power Weapons =o

Check "one handed weapons" list in the armory page edit: the armory page in the DE codex, I mean xD

Oh, hey they do have power wea-- 15pts for a Power Weapon? Don't they usually cost like nothing for Sargeants and stuffs for IG/Space marines and stuff?

Nope, the value for other armies varies between 10p (IG) and 15p (SM and SoB).

*facedesks* Argh now I feel so stupid, I was thinking of the old BRB in which a close combat weapon in the wargear list cost like 1 or 2 points >.<

Riffzor wrote:Incubi are pretty darn expensive to be DE's though.. But then again, they're good. However, 25pts is pretty over-pricy, for that one would get a GK with a Stormbolter, Power Armour, and a Nemesis Force Weapon, and have MEQ stats but 5 WS. If I were an Incubi and saw one of those guys I'd kick whoever that's riding the Raider out of his seat, steal his spot and turn about going flat out in another direction.

with that high of initiative and with that many attacks with power weapons i can easily take down a reasonably sized force of MEQs as long as they dont swarm around me all at one

*grins* Yeah but what if some wicked Thousand Sons pops up? Inferno bolts makes short-work of Incubi!

Riffzor wrote:*facedesks* Argh now I feel so stupid, I was thinking of the old BRB in which a close combat weapon in the wargear list cost like 1 or 2 points >.<

Hahahaha regular close combat weapons without any special rules are usually free for unit leaders, and cost like 1p for a HQ. But a power weapon has special rules. It invalidates the armour save of your opponent, hence the point cost.

SwanCo wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Incubi are pretty darn expensive to be DE's though.. But then again, they're good. However, 25pts is pretty over-pricy, for that one would get a GK with a Stormbolter, Power Armour, and a Nemesis Force Weapon, and have MEQ stats but 5 WS. If I were an Incubi and saw one of those guys I'd kick whoever that's riding the Raider out of his seat, steal his spot and turn about going flat out in another direction.

with that high of initiative and with that many attacks with power weapons i can easily take down a reasonably sized force of MEQs as long as they dont swarm around me all at one

That's what I meant. MEQ are scary, but if they want to attack a DE, they first have to survive the DE attack.

Riffzor wrote:*grins* Yeah but what if some wicked Thousand Sons pops up? Inferno bolts makes short-work of Incubi!

Dark lances spam. And charge them when there are few left

SwanCo wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Incubi are pretty darn expensive to be DE's though.. But then again, they're good. However, 25pts is pretty over-pricy, for that one would get a GK with a Stormbolter, Power Armour, and a Nemesis Force Weapon, and have MEQ stats but 5 WS. If I were an Incubi and saw one of those guys I'd kick whoever that's riding the Raider out of his seat, steal his spot and turn about going flat out in another direction.

with that high of initiative and with that many attacks with power weapons i can easily take down a reasonably sized force of MEQs as long as they dont swarm around me all at one

That's what I meant. MEQ are scary, but if they want to attack a DE, they first have to survive the DE attack.

Yeah I've been looking pretty closely on the Tau the last few hours now, I'm really gushing over some of their stuffs.

Railguns, Markerlights, Seeker Missiles, High-Strength weapons on their fire warriors... And they look pretty darn good.

But I still dread their must have HQ choise of that chicken-goat-box XV suit thingy.. Which rocks, but looks dreadfull.

But then there's the DE.. The more I hear of them the more I want them, but I'd hate to sit there with my old 3'rd ed codex watching some flashy new IG and Inquisition Codices of my friends.. Why, oh why does the DE have to wait until Christmas? =s

go DE...their current Dex is only 5 bucks through chaos orc so you'd might as well and just get a new one when it comes out...a five$ investment isnt that big a deal when your buying 45$ box sets

and tau are communists

SwanCo wrote:and tau are communists

Yeah, I read their Fluff and pretty much raged at it >.<

Almost reason enough to kick them out of my head... But it's hard with their shiny stuffs!

But I guess you're right, Tau are much more common than DE (the owner of my Local Store said he was pretty close to pick them out of their store since there's no one in my town playing them xD) I would probably bump into none before Christmas, when I guess everyone's gonna buy themselves some new DE's.

But then again, those fragile vehicles makes me a bit sad. ='<

Fragile vehicles make up for it with huge firepower. as long as you go first you have a very good chance of winning, if you look in my sig you can see the 1 loss and 1 draw, i got those the two times i went second :(

Back OT, anyone have any more art or anything leaked? the pics before looked pretty

Oh yeah, almost forgot about the Topic. Sorry guys 'n gals!

OT: I hope we'll get more pics and stuffs leaked soon, so far it's been really nice!

Riffzor wrote:

But then there's the DE.. The more I hear of them the more I want them, but I'd hate to sit there with my old 3'rd ed codex watching some flashy new IG and Inquisition Codices of my friends.. Why, oh why does the DE have to wait until Christmas? =s

Join the club, it's been like that for me for the past 6 years.

Yeah I've been looking pretty closely on the Tau the last few hours now, I'm really gushing over some of their stuffs.

Railguns, Markerlights, Seeker Missiles, High-Strength weapons on their fire warriors... And they look pretty darn good.

But I still dread their must have HQ choise of that chicken-goat-box XV suit thingy.. Which rocks, but looks dreadfull.

Tau is a decent army to start, especially if you like the aesthetic of the army.

Just be aware that the crisis suits core design will probably change in the next codex (based on the direction forgeworld is going, and that they are an army that spends about 80% of their turn in the shooting phase, with the other 20% in the movement and rarely contributes to assault.

I like the XV9 battlesuits on Forgeworld.

Anyhow, I think I'm gonna have to start a thread about the decision of army I have to make, it's been pretty spread out over several different threads. >.<

And yeah, 6 years is a long time for a team to be left without changes, GW better make it good now! >=D

Riffzor wrote:Why, oh why does the DE have to wait until Christmas? =s

You waited 10 years you can wait another 6 months.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Riffzor wrote:Why, oh why does the DE have to wait until Christmas? =s

You waited 10 years you can wait another 6 months.

I waited for ten years. He probably didn't.