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Frazzled wrote:I like where this thread is going.

Do they still have female and male torsos?

Soulstones? WTF.

And that head looks like it belongs on a Necron or something.

Anyway, I hope they aren't coming out in August, that's supposed to be the GK's time.

Terminus wrote:Soulstones? WTF

They could just be gemstones. OR something really terrible that are somehow reminiscent of soul stones.

Terminus wrote:
Anyway, I hope they aren't coming out in August, that's supposed to be the GK's time.

..hmm... doubt it.

They could just be gemstones. OR something really terrible that are somehow reminiscent of soul stones.

QFT. in all honesty the Dark Eldar are perhaps the least developed (fluffwise) of the "modern" 40K setting.

One thing we should "see"/get served is an expanded background of what the Dark Eldar are actually about. Imagine the noise on the various 40K background boards as people argue over whether they really are Slaanesh worshippers or more.... hmm... "I am the push that makes you move" type thing.

.. or something else !


I'd suggest that " Dark Disciple" might be a reasonable pointer for some of the ideas towards their future direction maybe.
...

Have just bought a DE army from a friend last week.
I hope the figures are as good as people hope, but I shalln't be upgrading.

I don't mind the old figures too much And it means I may be able to extend the army quite inexpensively if people start selling off to make way for the new models.

reds8n wrote:

Grunt_For_Christ wrote:Please let it be true... Please let it be true.

... sounds pretty good to me.

Can't confirm it-- sorry -- but I would be very surprised if Spearhead was the last 40K release of the year eh ?

.. well... full/revised army release anyway.

I think by years end people won't know wych way to go when building their filthy xenos armies.

I see what you did there.

Oooh, I hope for an October release so I can save up and by 2500pts at once.

Kroothawk wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:The other pic in the rulebook (of the DE assault vs IG).
The backs of the leaping warriors do not look anything like the models I saw.
That is not to say they may be another type of DE trooper (one I haven't seen)

Just for the record, here is the pic:



If they stay close to the concept as well, we have a good idea of the Raider now.
And my guess is, we see the new Wyches here! Look at the weapons! And they are troops now!
Guess you didn't see any other models, right?

Only (some) of the warriors. I didn't see the sprues or all of the possible builds.
Keep in mind that the vast majority, if not the entire range (baring a couple fo character sculpts) that will be released with the codex were finished months ago.
I've had the raider described to me but haven't seen it - A cross between the sand skiff in ROTJ and the current raider (I guess something like the pic above)

I've had a few other models described to me but they are fairly hazy descriptions and not worth repeating as it will just end up confusing people.

To be honest I'm sure there are NO pics anywhere.
Those who have access to releases earrly (pre black box) want to keep getting access early.

I said Juneish as all signs are still pointing to a DE release in August (Yakface wants to win his bet) and pics invariably appear in the WD 2 months pre release. BUT with the build up to WHFB realease in July, that may get swamped.

Sweet, this means i can start a small BA army now since they will no longer be the new trend
(hate playing an army that everyone else uses)

SAALLLTTTT!!!

TBH, I don't much like the helmet in the RB pic, but if there are options & variants, that'll help.

With regards to wyches have any of you seen the Liber Slaanesh at all ?

Thanks Gonads!


Any chance you saw a Syrabite leading them? If so how did he look?

BTW did GW notice that males and females look different in the hip region?

Kroothawk wrote:BTW did GW notice that males and females look different in the hip region?

Male and female humans look different in the hip region. Male and female Elves look however similar the designer wants them to look...

Well, the 4th edition Banshees finally have female hips, so there is hope GW gets away from the cross-dresser aestetic.

A raider with a new prow? How... shocking...

I hope the raider looks similiar to the one in that second pic.

Me likes.

I would do a DE army, but from what i've heard fluff wise and in gaming terms, they could change drastically.

If you like some of the current models I'd say go for it.

But I wouldn't plan an army until we start knowing more about what could or WILL happen.

Fateweaver wrote:If you like some of the current models I'd say go for it.

But I wouldn't plan an army until we start knowing more about what could or WILL happen.

So you say start collecting, even if the models are going soon??

I wouldn't do it.

insaniak wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:BTW did GW notice that males and females look different in the hip region?

Male and female humans look different in the hip region. Male and female Elves look however similar the designer wants them to look...

There is a noticeable difference in the hips of the current female models. The Female Incubus model has a thinner waist and broader butt than the male Incubi. Same with the Wyches. I think it's just the old warriors that are identical from the waist down.

Yo Gonads, did you happen to notice any female torsos on the sprues? Are all the warriors male?

I really like the look of the new Dark Eldar minis. The ones without a helmet look really good.

That is the main reason why I am going to start a Dark Eldar army.

I think I just got wood...and how appropriate hehe. I like the new look and really hope the raiders are like the pic too.

As far as the soul stones it could still make sense. Instead however of just collecting the soul of the holder it collects the souls of those dying around them. Just think of the fluff on how the Archons devour souls. This may be the delivery method.

we need some leaked pics i hope the DE are next.

Even though i don't have the money to buy new models after getting a bunch of dark elves

So many spikes, why?

reds8n wrote:With regards to wyches have any of you seen the Liber Slaanesh at all ?

Is there a reason I shouldn't suddenly peruse my copy of Liber Chaotica?

Blast
everyone is gonna jump on the DE bandraider now :(



To spike someones drink is to slip a drug in it
That is what DE do Ultrafool. The stick drugs into people.

Remember kids, just say NO!

Chibi Bodge-Battle wrote:Blast
everyone is gonna jump on the DE bandraider now :(



To spike someones drink is to slip a drug in it
That is what DE do Ultrafool. The stick drugs into people.

Remember kids, just say NO!

That's not right. Now I am never going to play DE. ( just kidding)

This is quite a coup, Gonads - your news is zooming around the internet. If actual sprues have got to Australia, then we must be fairly close to seeing them.

I always thought the DE had a lot of potential. The Raiders were pretty cool, and quite a radical departure for GW at the time. The Warriors weren't perfect, but if you spent a bit of time removing excess blades and avoided some of the stupid bits (like the big hair heads) they were quite acceptable. And the Talos looked genuinely evil (it was a bastard to build though). The problem was that most of the rest of the range was crap. The Wyches were kind of lumpy and distorted when they should have been lithe and elegant, while the Archon was an embarassing model to have as a leader. And the bondage theme, while perhaps appropriate, just made the models ugly. However, the army played like its fluff in a way that few other armies did, and it was a lot of fun to use. It was rather one-dimensional, and when it started to fall apart it was difficult to recover.

I don't think the DE need a major overhaul. The basics are all there. The army just needs more depth, and the supporting units like Grotesques need to be more interesting (or replaced with something better). Fleshing out the fluff so that they have a proper place in the WH40k universe will help, but it's the models that will be the key to whether the DE become popular. If the Raiders look like the ones in the drawing above, then that's a good start (not sure where the sail fits in, but it's a nice touch). I'd be hoping for plastic Wyches and a plastic Talos, plus some well sculpted leaders.