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Gutsnagga wrote:

miles wrote:I remember 2 years ago when I collected before I got seriously into Warhammer 40k, I played a game of a very small Eldar force against an even smaller chaos force. I would just say that you had to roll 2+ only to save like a guardian. Lol.

First of all, your a for doing that.
Secondly, this is a website, not your mobile phone. Please don't talk like it is.

Uhhhh... are you whining because he said "LOL?"

Tactical marines were supposedly able to buy any special or heavy weapon they wanted from any army and got free CCWs.

So I saw lots of tacs with BP+CCW and burnaz.

This chaos player I was playing against had a khorne oriented army, with a large amount of khorne berzerkers. but, all of the units were modled with half of the berzerkers holding 2 pistols and the other half holding 2 ccw. Every time I killed a 'zerker, he would remove the ones with double ccw, and claim that he could still fire 10 shots, because the guys that died were never shooting anyway. So, I had gotten a few 'zerker units down to half strength, and they were still firing all 10 shots. The sad part was that I was pretty new at the time, and didn't know the rules to well. It was my first battle, and he had a huge chaos collection, and a smaller blood angels collection, so I just rolled with it. I lost. Later I posted it in You make da call, and was told that he was a raging cheater. I felt pretty dumb . You just feel terrible when people pull these things on you, and you didn't catch it.

Steelmage99 wrote:

Lizar7 wrote:

calgar 2.5 wrote:In my club, this one kid places his rhino end to end with a Land Raider and moves it around like that for the whole game.

Why?

With the correct manoeuvring he can, quite legally, claim a 3+ cover save on the Rhino because firing models are unable to draw LOS to the facing they are in(as it is hidden behind the Land Raider).

It wasn't even for that, it's because he wants to protect the ass-end of his rhino. That is what is generaly reffered to as a beardy move.

Uh....I would't call it beardy. I mean a Rhino is only AV11, just shoot it with a lascannon or missile launcher or something. It's just weird to me.

Gutsnagga wrote:

miles wrote:I remember 2 years ago when I collected before I got seriously into Warhammer 40k, I played a game of a very small Eldar force against an even smaller chaos force. I would just say that you had to roll 2+ only to save like a guardian. Lol.

First of all, your a for doing that.
Secondly, this is a website, not your mobile phone. Please don't talk like it is.

Wow he said Lol quickly burn him and his family they must pay!!

^yeah pretty much my reaction to his over-reaction.
you picked the wrong person to go on a chatspeak tirade at

Sorry for not replying for a while, too much homework.
Anyways, I agree with the rest of you lot that I overreacted, I just hate it when people who know the rules lie so that they can beat new people.
I guess I got a bit carried away.
anyway, here's a new fakie:

"You think you can own my Thousand sons squad? Well my Aspiring sorceror can switch places with any of the other thousand sons, so he'll always be alive."
"That doesn't even make sense. But Gazghull does!"

I once had a game against a tau player which was especially funny because I knew all the rules:

Tau player says that his kroot can shoot AND run in the same turn

Tau player says that his failsafe detonator is strength 8 AP 1

Tau player says that his missile pods are ap3

Tau player has a generally obnoxious attitude through the whole game and insists he's always right.

To make matters even more hilarious, the TO then gets mad at me because I didn't bring my codex and accuses me of cheating

To be fair - bringing your codex IS expected, if not required, at every tournament I've ever sseen.

nosferatu1001 wrote:To be fair - bringing your codex IS expected, if not required, at every tournament I've ever sseen.

true, but it still ridiculous having a go at one player for not bringing a codex when the other player is blatantly cheating on multiple occasions

I haven't encountered much cheating, but knowing all the codices well helps a great deal with that. The only thing I've encountered lately was an eldar player moving his wave serpents extra distance by swinging the back end around almost 180 degrees (from facing left to facing right) and claiming that since the front tip doesn't move more than 24" it was legal even though the back end moved 24"+ 2x the length of the model. It was a tourney and we were pressed for time though, so once it became apparent that he was going to belabor the point I let it pass.

Culler wrote:I haven't encountered much cheating, but knowing all the codices well helps a great deal with that. The only thing I've encountered lately was an eldar player moving his wave serpents extra distance by swinging the back end around almost 180 degrees (from facing left to facing right) and claiming that since the front tip doesn't move more than 24" it was legal even though the back end moved 24"+ 2x the length of the model. It was a tourney and we were pressed for time though, so once it became apparent that he was going to belabor the point I let it pass.

Ouch! thats a sucky player for you. I really hate the fact that people exploit tournaments (and time limits) like that, its the major reason i never enter them. ive heard even worse, but thats just silly

I once played against someone who said that deep striking units move other units to fit on the table. I pointed him to the BRB and was right. In the end he though it was like that because our local demon player always does just that.

I once met a player who insisted on having a coversave when his units jumped off a building...
He had a group of pathfinders standing on a building and then jumped down to get to the objective, when the opponent was firing on them with a falcon, the player wanted a coversave, because his units ''were falling down.''

Ordo Dakka wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:That if something had a high enough Strength to cause Instant Death, it ignored your armour save. Lost a lot of Terminators to Battlecannons in those early games...

I used to play this too, where did it come from? Fantasy?

I think so, in WFB if you have enough str you can loose your armour save. For every point over 4 str the armour save gets -1
so str 8 against a 2+save means they have to pass on a 6+

When I was a kid a friend of mine tried to convince me his missile launcher could fire over the top of scenery. I think he had played too much Worms.

Versus an really obnoxious noob kid at a GW store a few years ago. He was probably 10 or 12-ish, very braggart-ish, kind of bullying his awestruck buddies, claiming all the rules he knew, making up ones he didn't, etc. Now I know its not nice to pick on kids, but this guy was asking for it.:

kid: "all of my orks are 'ard boyz' because I put the extra armor on them, see it says right here with WYSIWYG. I ALWAYS play with WYSIWYG." (He says this as if proudly proclaiming his dedication to the game or something. It should be noted that his army was about 150 points over cost too - ahh math skills and the modern school system, sigh - of course he doesn't have his codex with him, just some printoffs brought from home)

SO ANYWAYS. My Tau buddy found he was next up againt this ork god of tactics... has an old genetealrer model at the bottom of his case. He quickley spot glues it on top of his hammerhead. Then he takes his laptop over to the store printer for a sec... When he plays this kid in the next game, he has a printout of a Tau Stealerhead special variant that launches captured genestealers from its railgun into cc with the enemy.

Guitardian wrote:Versus an really obnoxious noob kid at a GW store a few years ago. He was probably 10 or 12-ish, very braggart-ish, kind of bullying his awestruck buddies, claiming all the rules he knew, making up ones he didn't, etc. Now I know its not nice to pick on kids, but this guy was asking for it.:

kid: "all of my orks are 'ard boyz' because I put the extra armor on them, see it says right here with WYSIWYG. I ALWAYS play with WYSIWYG." (He says this as if proudly proclaiming his dedication to the game or something. It should be noted that his army was about 150 points over cost too - ahh math skills and the modern school system, sigh - of course he doesn't have his codex with him, just some printoffs brought from home)

SO ANYWAYS. My Tau buddy found he was next up againt this ork god of tactics... has an old genetealrer model at the bottom of his case. He quickley spot glues it on top of his hammerhead. Then he takes his laptop over to the store printer for a sec... When he plays this kid in the next game, he has a printout of a Tau Stealerhead special variant that launches captured genestealers from its railgun into cc with the enemy.

That is genius, I salute your buddy

^yeah that's genius. I was onnce overseeing two 11-ish year old's game. One (A SM player), claimed he could have a missile launcher on every tactical marine, that rhinos were AV 13/12/11, and that all captains were EW. and that lascannons work like JOTWW. And that if you fail morale, you die, as per SA. From shooting attacks.

I pointed all these out as they were said, and the cheater ragequit.

This is why i don't like children, anything under, can get out.

Guitardian wrote:Versus an really obnoxious noob kid at a GW store a few years ago. He was probably 10 or 12-ish, very braggart-ish, kind of bullying his awestruck buddies, claiming all the rules he knew, making up ones he didn't, etc. Now I know its not nice to pick on kids, but this guy was asking for it.:

kid: "all of my orks are 'ard boyz' because I put the extra armor on them, see it says right here with WYSIWYG. I ALWAYS play with WYSIWYG." (He says this as if proudly proclaiming his dedication to the game or something. It should be noted that his army was about 150 points over cost too - ahh math skills and the modern school system, sigh - of course he doesn't have his codex with him, just some printoffs brought from home)

SO ANYWAYS. My Tau buddy found he was next up againt this ork god of tactics... has an old genetealrer model at the bottom of his case. He quickley spot glues it on top of his hammerhead. Then he takes his laptop over to the store printer for a sec... When he plays this kid in the next game, he has a printout of a Tau Stealerhead special variant that launches captured genestealers from its railgun into cc with the enemy.

So what happened next?

One rule that I heard a lot when I started so I thought it was right until I was told otherwise.

When rolling d3, you just take the result of a d6 and half it, rounding DOWN. Looking back on it, it's pretty stupid because you could only get 3 on the roll of a 6.

Guitardian wrote:Versus an really obnoxious noob kid at a GW store a few years ago. He was probably 10 or 12-ish, very braggart-ish, kind of bullying his awestruck buddies, claiming all the rules he knew, making up ones he didn't, etc. Now I know its not nice to pick on kids, but this guy was asking for it.:

kid: "all of my orks are 'ard boyz' because I put the extra armor on them, see it says right here with WYSIWYG. I ALWAYS play with WYSIWYG." (He says this as if proudly proclaiming his dedication to the game or something. It should be noted that his army was about 150 points over cost too - ahh math skills and the modern school system, sigh - of course he doesn't have his codex with him, just some printoffs brought from home)

SO ANYWAYS. My Tau buddy found he was next up againt this ork god of tactics... has an old genetealrer model at the bottom of his case. He quickley spot glues it on top of his hammerhead. Then he takes his laptop over to the store printer for a sec... When he plays this kid in the next game, he has a printout of a Tau Stealerhead special variant that launches captured genestealers from its railgun into cc with the enemy.

hahahaha, your buddy should get a medal! well played sir

Me friends and me used to make lotsa mistakes back when we thought reading the whole rulebook was for suckers, which lead to some funny missunderstandings.
1. We played without toughness, which lead to my guardsmen being not that much inferior to Space Marines (this wasn't even my idea, they just thought rolling to wound and rolling armor saves would take too long)
2. One space marine player figured his squad could use ALL the heavy and special weapons the box comes with...
3. We thought flamers could scatter
4. The AV on a tank indicates how often the side must be shot befor the tank dies. (My Leman Russ was scared of bolters
5. And probably worst of all for me, we never played with points, we just fielded what we had... My guardsmen often fought tactical space marines who outnumbered them ...
Oh plus we didn't use close combat cause we didn't want to check the rules
That was until most players stopped and I started reading the bloody rulebook

I remember one time I was playing this kid, must have been about 10-11ish, he would always claim his imperial guardsmen would get a 2+ cover save when in ruined buildings because they were painted with urban camoflauge. Even when I proved to him in the codex that wasnt true he was adamant he was right so I challenged him to a game, now using my guard I equipped every squad and tank with flamers and heavy flamers (where appropriate), took a couple of leman russ eradicators and 3 hellhounds. I told him that if I win this game he has to accept that he is wrong if he won I would accept he was right... well by turn 2 about 80% of his army was a burning mess on the floor, never saw him again.

When me and my friend were really new, we saw that flamers didn't have to roll for BS, so we looked at scatter for ordance blast weapons, and though that must be true for them too, so ordance weapons scatter, but don't need to roll for hits. Needless to say the battles were won by those who could bring as many blast templates to the table as possible.

winnertakesall wrote:When me and my friend were really new, we saw that flamers didn't have to roll for BS, so we looked at scatter for ordance blast weapons, and though that must be true for them too, so ordance weapons scatter, but don't need to roll for hits.

That's the actual rules, unless you mean ordnance weapons that don't have a blast.

Another one from me:

We thought templates and blast weapon scattered using the artillery dice for distance. Ended up wondering why people liked blast weapons so much when they never hit anything.

DarknessEternal wrote:

winnertakesall wrote:When me and my friend were really new, we saw that flamers didn't have to roll for BS, so we looked at scatter for ordance blast weapons, and though that must be true for them too, so ordance weapons scatter, but don't need to roll for hits.

That's the actual rules, unless you mean ordnance weapons that don't have a blast.

Sorry no, thats completely mixed up, I was writing it on an ipod, got distracted and came back to it, what I meant to write was:

When me and my friend were really new, we saw that flamers didn't have to roll for BS, so we looked at scatter for ordance blast weapons, and though that must be true for them too, so ordance weapons scatter, we thought this strange, so we checked it, and when it turned out to be true we thought it was great, another friend came along who was new and played IG, he took loads of grenade launchers and missile launchers, so we thought the rules were the same. Things got messy and we rarely won