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Cheers. I was worried it was going to be from a Nercomunda box set....thus unobtainable since I'm not spending £20 on a shotgun.

Peter

PDH wrote:thus unobtainable

Not necessarily... get in touch.

Baiyuan - the Inquisitorial trooper looks good, though I think that the head seems to be sitting somewhat awkwardly in the neck.

neil101 wrote:looks cool , nice find with the machinery wall too.

Thx, I dare you to tell me where it's from. I can tell you that much, it's from 40k.

Molotov wrote:I think that the head seems to be sitting somewhat awkwardly in the neck.

Really? Keep in mind, that he is hugging the wall, I actually tried what position my head would have, when I peek around a corner, before I positioned his head. Try it yourself and tell me what you think please, maybe my neck itself is awkward.

Baiyuan wrote:

neil101 wrote:looks cool , nice find with the machinery wall too.
Thx, I dare you to tell me where it's from. I can tell you that much, it's from 40k.

I havent a clue, has it been recast ? looks like a forgeworld part though
is the guys head from the space wolf scouts?

The model looks great. I don't think his neck is that awkward, though. Like Baiyuan suggested, I tried it out myself, , and I have to say, it's very realistically done.

neil101 wrote:I havent a clue, has it been recast ? looks like a forgeworld part though
is the guys head from the space wolf scouts?

Forgeworld indeed. Yes, it has been recast. Even though I'm not cheap with my projects, I wouldn't want to spend 100 bucks for background basing.

The head is not a SW. I have those too, but they are huge, not good for most guardsmen imho. The head is from the imperial greatswords I think. I bought more than one hundret different heads from the fantasy range for this project, so I'm not absolutely sure though.

Help needed!
I would highly appreciate any suggestions regarding a good color scheme for my inquisitorial guardsmen. Let's sum up the facts, so you can start doing my thinking:

They are not Vostroyans, they are former guardsmen of the 5th platoon of the Berlichingen Lionhearts, which was almost completely killed during the battle against the witch coven, that Iudex Probitas led. The last survivors couldn't remain in the ranks of the standard troops, due to their delicate knowledge about the whole crisis. So instead of exterminating them like it would be normal, the Inquisitor decided to "promote" them into his even more dangerous services and they became inquisitorial troopers.

Their homeworld has strong feudal and medieval features, so they need to show their roots.

To paint them mainly red is out of question, they must look different from your every day Vostroyan.

The paintjob will of course include some weathering, but I'm not planning to make them too dirty. They are part of the inquisition, not some underhive bums.

Suggest away! I'm looking forward to your ideas.

Oh and never forget:

If an inquisitor had saved them to be part of his personal retinue he would have had a part in their new 'uniforms' possibly complimenting his own personal colour scheme/heraldry. Also with Inquisitorial Henchmen I personally think that darker colours really suit them as they want to be able to go about their business without drawing too much attention to themselves, as they are from a feudal/medieval homeworld why not go with blacks and browns to represent the leathers they would almost certainly wear, maybe a hint of chainmail too (for a bit of bling) and use a highlight colour to match the Inquistors colour scheme. Simple and yet brooding and doesnt overpower your inquistior model by being to 'showy'

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Asylum_Inmate wrote:If an inquisitor had saved them to be part of his personal retinue he would have had a part in their new 'uniforms' possibly complimenting his own personal colour scheme/heraldry. Also with Inquisitorial Henchmen I personally think that darker colours really suit them as they want to be able to go about their business without drawing too much attention to themselves, as they are from a feudal/medieval homeworld why not go with blacks and browns to represent the leathers they would almost certainly wear, maybe a hint of chainmail too (for a bit of bling) and use a highlight colour to match the Inquistors colour scheme. Simple and yet brooding and doesnt overpower your inquistior model by being to 'showy'

(edited for spelling)

Excellent reasoning. Very close to my thoughts so far. Thank you.
Only thing I'm ambigous about is making them not "showy". I'm fond of the brown tones, but I'm not sure a nice clean bretonialike color scheme wouldn't look even better.

I'm really torn here. Ordo Hereticus: Dark and sinister or Knights background: bright and heroic. Help!

Keep going guys, I'm starting painting tonight. More suggestions would be great.

I would have never guessed that , and i even looked at the baneblade good find
as for the colour scheme blacks and browns all the way i think , something like this would suit both the model and the inquisistorial background.. they have always spoke musketeers to me in those outfits , even more so now they dont have the floppy hats

neil101 wrote:I would have never guessed that , and i even looked at the baneblade good find
as for the colour scheme blacks and browns all the way i think , something like this would suit both the model and the inquisistorial background.. they have always spoke musketeers to me in those outfits , even more so now they dont have the floppy hats

Spoiler:

Nice refference.

Right now I'm thinking I can do both. Dark and showy: Brown/Black coats, armor obviously in silver and gold, heraldry in white and red. What do you say?

Sounds good to me, I think a strong contrasting colour to the blacks and browns will make the figures pop. Also i'm sure their inquisitor wouldnt want them to look like paupers, they would have to look like they worked for an important man without drawing too much attention to themselves.

I think you are on to a winning paint scheme there

p.s. i think Neil101 summed it up perfectly, if i knew how to put those images together like that, thats is pretty much what i was getting at in my rather rambling first post. what I probably should have done was to point out GW's default paintscheme for their witchhunter inquistors which is very similar to this

Yep Asylum, makes a good point with the inquisitors crest or emblem, i would be tempted to give them a off the shoulder cloak , but then again iam more a style than utility sort a guy
is he going to be a puritan or a radical , or somewhere inbetween? because the black templars have some great servitors , if your thinking of the puritan style , the guy to the left is what i am talkin about ..


The gold and silver would be a cool addition too, maybe some free hand swirls , i have always wanted to try some but , my detail work can be somewhat lacking
how many of these guys you gonna have for you inquisitor? and a witch hunter style one would suit these guys down to the ground imo.
but knowing you , it will be a bit more "CUSTOM" than a typical GW mini

neil101 wrote:Is he going to be a puritan or a radical , or somewhere inbetween? because the black templars have some great servitors , if your thinking of the puritan style , the guy to the left is what i am talkin about ..

Definitely not radical, Iudex Probitas is a character from my pantheon of individuals I've been developing over the years for my =I=54mm projects. You could call him a puritan, if by that you mean he is a hardliner and not the right neighbour to ask for some weed, but he is not an insane fanatic like Tyrus. He makes sense, when he executes you.
The servitors are a nice idea, I already had an eye on them for my pitslaves, but didn't think of the obvious use for the Inquisition.

The gold and silver would be a cool addition too, maybe some free hand swirls , i have always wanted to try some but , my detail work can be somewhat lacking

The Vostroyans have so much embroydery and ornaments on their coats there will hardly be much space for freehands. Plus freehands are a thing worthy of the more... well... worthy parts of the retinue. The guardsmen are elite, but expandable. I'll certainly have some on the many true henchmen I'm considering making.

how many of these guys you gonna have for you inquisitor? and a witch hunter style one would suit these guys down to the ground imo. but knowing you , it will be a bit more "CUSTOM" than a typical GW mini

See above: Many! Gamewise a hand full would do, but by the sheer amount of miniatures that already ended up in the project's box, there will be a small strike force.
My plans so far are:
Archaon conversion
Chenkov conversion (just because he looks right)
Female witchhunter inquisitor with minor alterations as acolyte
Bunch of guardsmen (should be about 10 in the end)
I'm also considering some minor utilitarian henchmen, which could be where the servitors fit in. I also had a look at Inquisitor Rex and his retinue...

Regarding Iudex Probitas himself I'm not sure yet. He is almost done in 54mm and looks more or less like your normal witchhunter, which is why I planned to take Gideon Lorr and convert him a little. On the other hand I would enjoy a more creative approach, so time will tell.

Molotov - Mol....I think you may spoil me

Baiyuan - Colour wise black and browns with some spot colours sounds all very feudal and about right for your back story.

If you're painting black cloth WD 351 painting master class (Bad Moon Warboss) has a very nice and relatively simple method.

Peter

I stopped collecting WD some years ago, I like to browse through it, but I think it's mainly advertisement one even has to pay for, so I can't check what you mean. But I have a rough plan how to paint the black anyway, we'll see how it turns out.

About my progress:
I managed to greenstuff the guardsman to completion, primed him and afterwards spent 4 hours on painting him and that was all yesterday. He's got most of the base colors in place, except the flesh and metal.
I'll continue with the paintjob today. I'm really excited to finish him, but will take my time, as I have high plans for this one.

Boy oh boy, that miniature sure has a lot of details. I'm still painting and painting and painting.
Some seasons of Simpsons and a couple of glasses later, the "Hauptmann" is still far away from finished, but starting to look like he should in the end.
I finished his head last night.
Right now I'm getting his base done, not including the boiler thing behind him. I've started painting that too (in Vallejo green sky ), but I'm considering it an extra part of the paintjob, since it will need a lot of attention.
Now back to the painting table, smell ya later.


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Painting wood grain can really suck...

I'm a bit tired of painting, it just doesn't work like I want it to, guess you know what I mean. Stupid matter resisting my will...

In other news, I've had a cool new idea, after being pointed to the high elves range by my fellow munda player and neighbour, Dennis. It's going to be for the inquisitorial guardsmen and I'm kit bashing high elf stuff with vostroyans. Curious? Good!

I think I might take PIP pics tomorrow to get me motivated again...maybe.

The dreaded demotivation , how is your terrain comming along mate? maybe building something less precise may help aleviate the pressure.

Baiyuan wrote:

THIS IS EPIC!

It reminds me of Dead Rising 2, whish you had build a plate launcher, that would have been hilarious

all jokes aside, this is one amazing build, EINFACH SUPER!!
So much character, Lovely conversion!!

Keep up the good work

Cheers,

Bra'tac

neil101 wrote:The dreaded demotivation , how is your terrain comming along mate? maybe building something less precise may help aleviate the pressure.

The terrain is at hold until our group manages to meet and build some, I don't want to do it all on my own.
I solved the problem by not painting for a day and instead finished "the flight of the eisenstein" and sawed some more vostroyans apart for a new conversion. Motivation is back and I'm painting again.

bra'tac wrote:THIS IS EPIC!
It reminds me of Dead Rising 2, whish you had build a plate launcher, that would have been hilarious
all jokes aside, this is one amazing build, EINFACH SUPER!!
So much character, Lovely conversion!!
Keep up the good work
Cheers,
Bra'tac

Vielen Dank! I just had a look at the plate launcher gameplay and it's pretty close to what I had in mind initially. My inspiration came from Dead Space's Ripper, but I decided not to make it shoot the blades in the end, because I imagined it to be too complicated for an ogryn to operate.

Great Work!

djphranq wrote:Great Work!

Thanky mate.

Just realised my comment on Cortaro never posted! That's pretty rage-tastic - it was a few days ago now and it was incredibly long, and now I can't really remember most of it. Frig. It was mostly praise and jaw dropping type sounds (which you've had a lot of!), but favourite bits were the putty work around the eyepieces in the mask (much more aggressive than the original!),the overlapping armour plates, the myriad of gauges and all the detail in the gas mask. No criticism to share - just can't imagine how long he'll take to paint up

The peekaboo shotgunner (who I've clearly missed - crazy work weeks make me miss Dakka :() is also a work of art. I'm amazed that such seemingly minor changes can completely alter the meaning of his pose. And where did you find that awesome machine block?! Only very minor change I would suggest (and only because I know you like +ve -ve comments ) is filling out his neck a little. The angle of his head is perfect, but reveals the 'round' part of the plastic neck a little. I'm sure you were on that anyway, but just in case! Incredible work, nonetheless.

And in terms of your painting funk - I always find taking a little break to do some modelling instead rekindles the fire. You've been modelling a fair bit too recently though, so who knows!

Apologies for the comment drought, and keep it up - everything's looking fantastic!


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Oooh, and in case you haven't seen this before, it might help you out on your colour scheme woes. What was the climate on the original planet? Might help with schemes a little

Scarper wrote:Just realised my comment on Cortaro never posted! That's pretty rage-tastic - it was a few days ago now and it was incredibly long, and now I can't really remember most of it. Frig. It was mostly praise and jaw dropping type sounds (which you've had a lot of!)

I can never get enough of those.

, but favourite bits were the putty work around the eyepieces in the mask (much more aggressive than the original!),the overlapping armour plates, the myriad of gauges and all the detail in the gas mask. No criticism to share - just can't imagine how long he'll take to paint up

You make a good point there, I will take ages, but then again I don't need to finish him before septembre 2012...

The peekaboo shotgunner (who I've clearly missed - crazy work weeks make me miss Dakka :() is also a work of art. I'm amazed that such seemingly minor changes can completely alter the meaning of his pose.

Thank you, I'm not taking credit for how much those minor changes altered the overall look, that somehow just happened to me, it just seemed logical at some point. I'm very happy about it myself.

And where did you find that awesome machine block?!

I actually mentioned before, but since you we're not "procrastinating online" all week (like PDH would say it), I'll tell you again: It's half of the base of the barrel of a FW Shadowsword.

Only very minor change I would suggest (and only because I know you like +ve -ve comments ) is filling out his neck a little. The angle of his head is perfect, but reveals the 'round' part of the plastic neck a little. I'm sure you were on that anyway, but just in case!

You are right in both points, it needed changing and I was on that anyway. The pics were mere WIPs afterall, just what I had put together in an afternoons work. Apart from being painted, he received a lot of attention after what you've seen in the pictures.

He got a GS collar, a strip of shells on his shoulderpad, his neck was filled with a sensible amout of GS, I added a Inquisition symbol to his scabbard and the machine block got a major touch up with GS to fill all the cavities and I also added a top valve to it.

Incredible work, nonetheless.

I'll ignore the "nonetheless", since that was just WIP and say thank you, both for your kind words and constructive critique, I enjoy both.

And in terms of your painting funk - I always find taking a little break to do some modelling instead rekindles the fire. You've been modelling a fair bit too recently though, so who knows!

True, that leads to the updates...

Updates:

Ok before I report on the progress on my guardsman, he really needs a name. Which I just decided is "Adalhard", that's an old high german (700-1000) name and means "noble" and "hard/strong".

So Adalhard is still in painting. I finished his base save for the machine block. His head is finished. His gun is almost done. The freehand on his shoulderpad is done and the metal parts are finished too.

Left to do are the pouches and straps, the coat, the gloves and boots, the scabbard and sword hilt and the machine block.

Might take PIPs soon. So long suckers...

*Sets up tent and waits for painted pics*

S_P

No time to paint today, but I managed to play with my new tools and worked on two new conversions.
I made a double weapon swap on the female acolyte. She wields a shield and sword now, instead of plasma pistol and power maul.
And I replaced the arm of my soon to be lion priest. WIPs coming soon.

love the conversions!!! hope to see more. They look really good all painted up too.

I'm intrigued as to what you're using for a female acolyte...I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. (hope I've not missed a post)

Lion Priest sounds interesting...though I have an awful image of him having red hair, blue Lycra and screaming Inquisitorial Henchmen Hoooooooooo!

Peter

nerdforest wrote:love the conversions!!! hope to see more. They look really good all painted up too.

Thank you!

PDH wrote:I'm intrigued as to what you're using for a female acolyte...I'm sure it'll be worth the wait. (hope I've not missed a post)

Seems like you did, I mentioned somewhere that I'm using one of the female witchhunter inquisitors as acolyte.

I like the model very much and I initially didn't even intend to change anything, but well what can I say. No model leaves my table unchanged.

Lion Priest sounds interesting...though I have an awful image of him having red hair, blue Lycra and screaming Inquisitorial Henchmen Hoooooooooo!

Got to admit I don't get this one. I can assure you though, that there is no lycra involved at all. The model is one of the old priests of ulrik.

I'm really happy with all those projects I'm working on recently, because it happens that I get a chance to use all the miniatures I bought years ago, just because they were so sexy. The renegade ogryns, the platoon of vostroyans, the priest, the female inquisitor, I bought them for their looks and they waited for years without having any purpose. Now everything comes together.

There are of course many more of those impulsivly purchased models, but I highly doubt that inside our Necro Campaign I'll find use for the 50 crisis suits, the orca, the tiger shark and the barracuda, I have barely touched yet.

Amazing work! The time you spent on the Ogryn really shows. Haven't ever seen anything like it, completely unique.

Re: the Inquisitorial Guardsmen- I'd personally go for subdued humble colors.