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I just realized HBMC was right: It's all hull and no wings!

Grimtuff wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:BOW is people!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHH!!!!!

Stormtalon?

Well... the Chibi-Hawk had no fuselage, so I can only assume that to maintain balance the Stormtalon will have no wings/engines.

HBMC called it.

He was half right. No wings on the SM ROFLcopter.

I'll be buying the stormtalon, looks great to me. Reminds me of G Police

Agamemnon2 wrote:Meh. Rules speculation is the dullest possible angle on this. A

Also wow, the Storm Talon sketch is HIDEOUS.

I think the opposite, I love it. Granted it throws all of the boxy focus of SM design aside so it will look out of place but I think it is gorgeous as a nimble little gunship. It reminds me a lot of the ATACs from Killzone 2, sort of a hummingbird of doom. Rad.

Will be replacing my Landspeeders with it if I am able.

The storm raven will make a nice Battlewagon. I love those oversized engines.

The Stormraven suddenly looks like a brilliant model.

I know this is fantasy sci fi but seriously, how does that fly forwards?

It's a bobble-head gunship. The design is about as gothic as an iPod. It doesn't even fit with the pre-existing Marine skimmers, let alone the broader concept of the Imperial aesthetic.

Only TOGETHER can they triumph!

I give you..... THE RAVENTALON!

Scottywan82 wrote:Only TOGETHER can they triumph!

I give you..... THE RAVETALON!

FTFY.

What do you all think of the new missiles it can get?



skyhammer missiles

range 60 inch

strength 7 ap 4 ap3

I didn't catch the cost though.

Sorta reminds me of the hunter-killer from the Terminator series.

Reminds me of a Blight Drone. But ugly.

Edit: Blight Drone, not Bloatfly.

That's....an abomination. I could maybe -maybe- see that as a Guard flyer, but not Marines.

I'm beginning to think GW is walking away from the lovely Blanchian-Gothic aesthetic in favour of some horrid mismash of Bay-esque military sci-fi.

Assuming this is accurate ofc, and not just them pulling something out of their backside.

Lord Scythican wrote:What do you all think of the new missiles it can get?



skyhammer missiles

range 60 inch

strength 7 ap 4 ap3

I didn't catch the cost though.

They didn't say.

I mean, seems to me that you're going to run these with HB/Assault Cannons for the base of 130 pts. Or run them with TL-Las and Typhoon or Skyhammer Missiles for some heftier price - I'm guessing, based on Storm Raven prices that this will clock in around 155-165 pts. It's the points price range that I was hoping for - I need to think about this a minute to compare to other SM options.

Do I remember them saying it was AV 11 all around?

Reminds me of the old GIJoe single pilot vtol jet.

Edit sky hawk.

It all seems perfectly tedious to me. If this is a look into 6th edition, I finally have a reason to walk away and scorch the earth behind me. My heart is full of joy.

Just Dave wrote:Reminds me of a Blight Drone. But ugly.

Edit: Blight Drone, not Bloatfly.

Which could be cool. I could see myself getting some greenstuff and making it into a Nurgle Blight drone.






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Death By Monkeys wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:What do you all think of the new missiles it can get?



skyhammer missiles

range 60 inch

strength 7 ap 4 ap3

I didn't catch the cost though.

They didn't say.

I mean, seems to me that you're going to run these with HB/Assault Cannons for the base of 130 pts. Or run them with TL-Las and Typhoon or Skyhammer Missiles for some heftier price.

Do I remember them saying it was AV 11 all around?

I think so, but if you use the Howeverstrike ability you can get a +1 to the BS, so they might be more useful then.


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Well regardless, I will be getting a Guntoaster for my ork army.

No sketch of the Ork flyer yet?

What is BoW's record on actually correctly predicting things?

Wow. I like it.

Madmax1 wrote:No sketch of the Ork flyer yet?

Go back a page or two.

Lord Scythican wrote:I think so, but if you use the Howeverstrike ability you can get a +1 to the BS, so they might be more useful then.

I'm loathe to say it, but BS5 TL-Las and Missiles (Typhoon or Skyhammer) could be useful.

Death By Monkeys wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:What do you all think of the new missiles it can get?



skyhammer missiles

range 60 inch

strength 7 ap 4 ap3

I didn't catch the cost though.

They didn't say.

I mean, seems to me that you're going to run these with HB/Assault Cannons for the base of 130 pts. Or run them with TL-Las and Typhoon or Skyhammer Missiles for some heftier price - I'm guessing, based on Storm Raven prices that this will clock in around 155-165 pts. It's the points price range that I was hoping for - I need to think about this a minute to compare to other SM options.

Do I remember them saying it was AV 11 all around?

Well, I suspect the flyers of Marines and IG, and basically entire Necron and Dark Eldar and Craftworld Eldar armies based on fast vehicles are getting a big buff in 6th edition when all of a sudden these fast vehicles are much harder to hit than before. AV10/11 will be less of a factor if guys need fives or sixes to hit you instead of 3's. If people use Doom Scythes and Vendettas and Venoms now, people will love them when the survivability doubles up.

Death By Monkeys wrote:

Lord Scythican wrote:I think so, but if you use the Howeverstrike ability you can get a +1 to the BS, so they might be more useful then.

I'm loathe to say it, but BS5 TL-Las and Missiles (Typhoon or Skyhammer) could be useful.

Are you good at running the numbers for something like this? What kind of to hit/damage ratio would we be looking at for something like a landraider?


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BTW are the going to show real pictures eventually? I feel like this isn't going to be a happy ending establishment. If it is only sketches, I would rather go back to painting.

Never mind, they are wrapping it up.

but they're showing just some concept art/ sketches ???
If they have the freakin' models why the hell they don't show em???

At least the Stormtalon has a nice smile. It'll make a swell Gargant head.

punkow wrote:but they're showing just some concept art/ sketches ???
If they have the freakin' models why the hell they don't show em???

Because they don't really have the models?

punkow wrote:but they're showing just some concept art/ sketches ???
If they have the freakin' models why the hell they don't show em???

GW got very cross following the Necron leak last October... like very cross

The sketch of the Necron walker turned out to be taken from the boxart/WDpictures (can´t remember what), so I think these are quite genuine, too. The endresult in case of the walker unsurprisingly being better then the sketch.

So, what about the Stormtalon? I kinda like it but I do like the Stormraven as well. Still, not anywhere close to the quality of FW´s Stormeagle. I´ll see what it will do and what the endresult will exactly look like. The mainpoint will be what they can do in the new rules. Not buying stuff like that beforehand. My Marines are complete for the moment anyways.