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H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Again:
DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

And?
A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

Call an Imam a Rabbi or your prime minister Fuehrer, should be no problem because they basically fulfill the same role

Kroothawk wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Again:
DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

And?
A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

Call an Imam a Rabbi or your prime minister Fuehrer, should be no problem because they basically fulfill the same role

Wow, really? You attach the same import to made up superhuman titles? Well, hate to break it to you, but the scanned sheet from the starter has him listed as Captain. Gasp! The world is over! I guess you're going to kill yourself now, huh? Please don't do it, think of your family!

The Chinese words say "Company Commander" - which is obviously just a translation - I have no idea how the Chinese call DA Chapter Masters and Space Marine Captains. It's not like there's any functional difference between the two anyway - they are both "company commanders" as far as I can see.

But gasp! It is so important! How can you make so light of it?! Now he has to kill himself twice!

I await pictures. Until then, waiting off to the side.

Omegus wrote:But gasp! It is so important! How can you make so light of it?! Now he has to kill himself twice!

Damn it, man, he's a doctor master not a captain. He's doing the best he can.

Kroothawk wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:Again:
DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

And?
A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

Call an Imam a Rabbi or your prime minister Fuehrer, should be no problem because they basically fulfill the same role

Kroot, man...you almost Godwinned this thread.

Back on topic - perhaps a hint as to the rumours of an All In One SM codex?

rosafari wrote:I hope the chaos iconography on the cultists is lightly done - they sound a perfect starting point for a new Necromunda gang

Ooohhh~ That's not a bad idea.

I still want them to look suitable chaosy, but abit of Green Stuff and the shave of a knife could fix that up.

I hope the chosen look like the ones on the rulebook back cover, cas they are sweeeeeeeeet.

So,

Does this mean that the chinese are getting the figures, now and everyone else has to wait?

Whats going on with the pictures of the figures included in the sets?

Grot 6 wrote:So,

Does this mean that the chinese are getting the figures, now and everyone else has to wait?

Whats going on with the pictures of the figures included in the sets?

The servo skull dice holders?

Kazwulf wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:So,

Does this mean that the chinese are getting the figures, now and everyone else has to wait?

Whats going on with the pictures of the figures included in the sets?

The servo skull dice holders?

I think he's asking if any pictures of the modles in the starter set has leaked yet.

Kroothawk wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

Call an Imam a Rabbi or your prime minister Fuehrer, should be no problem because they basically fulfill the same role

Yes. These situations are exactly alike.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Kroothawk wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

Call an Imam a Rabbi or your prime minister Fuehrer, should be no problem because they basically fulfill the same role

Yes. These situations are exactly alike.

I'm pretty sure that differences in degree and differences in kind are basically the same thing.

DarkStarSabre wrote:
Back on topic - perhaps a hint as to the rumours of an All In One SM codex?

I sincerely doubt GW would kill off their chance to sell multiple codices as opposed to just one. Rumors and logic point to Dark Angels in the nearish future. I also feel like GW wouldn't go through all the effort of the digital release of Codex: Space Marines if they were going to replace it completely in a few months.

Brother SRM wrote:

DarkStarSabre wrote:
Back on topic - perhaps a hint as to the rumours of an All In One SM codex?

I sincerely doubt GW would kill off their chance to sell multiple codices as opposed to just one. Rumors and logic point to Dark Angels in the nearish future. I also feel like GW wouldn't go through all the effort of the digital release of Codex: Space Marines if they were going to replace it completely in a few months.

Plus IIRC GW said at one point that all codexes will always exist for now on, no more squating. It may have been someone else though

Brother SRM wrote:

DarkStarSabre wrote:
Back on topic - perhaps a hint as to the rumours of an All In One SM codex?

I sincerely doubt GW would kill off their chance to sell multiple codices as opposed to just one. Rumors and logic point to Dark Angels in the nearish future. I also feel like GW wouldn't go through all the effort of the digital release of Codex: Space Marines if they were going to replace it completely in a few months.

Agreed. No way GW would recombine them and lose the chance to sell multiple marine armies and books to a single player.

Someone needs to shoot this thread in the head and put it out of its misery.

Until someone does, however, I'm waiting for some photos of the figs...

Can't we find some dedicated Chinese Dakka member working where the figs are made to smuggle out a snap shot or three?

C'MON already.

H.B.M.C. wrote:A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

So if we go by different names means different things, that means a Tyranid can cast Onslaught, and the unit it is cast has fleet, it can Shoot, Run, and Assault or I mean charge in Close Combat now?

No, for GW, even though different words mean the same thing, they are different to GW. Otherwise it will be legal for Tyranids to run/shoot/assault in 6th edition.

Davor wrote:

H.B.M.C. wrote:A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference.

So if we go by different names means different things, that means a Tyranid can cast Onslaught, and the unit it is cast has fleet, it can Shoot, Run, and Assault or I mean charge in Close Combat now?

No, for GW, even though different words mean the same thing, they are different to GW. Otherwise it will be legal for Tyranids to run/shoot/assault in 6th edition.

Not even remotely applicable, since H.B.M.C is talking about titles that are only different in the fluff, and you're trying to make a case for switching around actual game/rule terms.

I cant wait to see the new set. Say what you like about GW, their new stuff always seems to get better and better.

Finecast anyone?

Couldn't help myself there. Seriously, I really looking forward to the new boxed set, mainly because I don't want to buy and carry around the gigantic rulebook, and secondly because I want to get my hands on the new chaos dread and cultists. AoBR and IoB were both fantastic values and I think that the new set will be as well.

I may have missed it, as I skimmed through much of this thread, but is there a release date for the box set yet?

Cultists

I haven't played Chaos in 40K in the last two editions. This starter set looks like a great starting point for a new Chaos army. I'm just going to use ALL the models for. Chaos.

HQ1
Chaos Lord: Power Armour, Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Frag & Krak grenades

HQ2
Balthasar: w/ Power Armour, Combi-Plasma, Frag & Krak grenades power sword.

ELITE1
Terminator Squad: Sergeant w/ Storm Bolter & Power Sword, 1 w/ Assault Cannon & Power Fist and 3 w/ Storm Bolter & Power Fist

ELITE 2
Chosen: Sergeant w/ Power Maul, Bolt Pistol & Bolter. One with a lightning claw, one with Power Axe, Bolt Pistol & Bolter, one with Power Fist, Bolt Pistol & Bolter, two with Close Combat Weapons, Bolters & Bolt Pistols. All have Power Armour, Frag & Krak grenades

TROOP 1
Chaos Marine Squad: Sergeant w/ Plasma Pistol & Close Combat Weapon and 9 Marines, 1 w/ Plasma Cannon, 1 w/ Plasma Gun, 7 w/ Bolters. All with Bolt Pistol and Frag & Krak grenades

TROOP 2
Cultist squad 1: Cultist leader w/ two Close Combat Weapons and 9 Cultists, one w/ Flamer, 8 w/ Close Combat Weapons & Autopistols

TROOP 3
Cultist squad 2: Cultist leader w/ Close Combat Weapon & (possibly) Shotgun and 9 Cultist, 1 w/ (possibly) Heavy Stubber and 8 w/ Autoguns

FAST ATTACK 1
Chaos Biker Squad: Sergeant w/ Bolt Pistol & Close Combat Weapon, 1 w/ Plasma Gun and 1 regular. All with Bolt Pistol and Frag & Krak grenades

HEAVY 1
Dreadnought Multi Melta and Power Fist

Brother SRM wrote:

DarkStarSabre wrote:
Back on topic - perhaps a hint as to the rumours of an All In One SM codex?

I sincerely doubt GW would kill off their chance to sell multiple codices as opposed to just one. Rumors and logic point to Dark Angels in the nearish future. I also feel like GW wouldn't go through all the effort of the digital release of Codex: Space Marines if they were going to replace it completely in a few months.

Chaos will be out before Dark Angels. The rumours all point to chaos and literally zero for DA so far. To be fair the last DA dex was a precursor to the newest space marine book which recieved everything as apposed to the da book that got nothing

adamsouza wrote:I haven't played Chaos in 40K in the last two editions. This starter set looks like a great starting point for a new Chaos army. I'm just going to use ALL the models for. Chaos.

HQ1
Chaos Lord: Power Armour, Power Sword, Plasma Pistol, Frag & Krak grenades

HQ2
Balthasar: w/ Power Armour, Combi-Plasma, Frag & Krak grenades power sword.

ELITE1
Terminator Squad: Sergeant w/ Storm Bolter & Power Sword, 1 w/ Assault Cannon & Power Fist and 3 w/ Storm Bolter & Power Fist

Just remember to call that assault cannon a 'Rotary Reaper Autocannon' and paint the Imperial side as the Fallen, or just paint over their imperial symbols. Spruespiked marines forever!

Exactly. What's the point of playing Chaos if you aren't going to convert models ?

^^^^Me Too!^^^

Been wanting to start a CSM army for while and this set looks perfect to do so.

Still relatively new player and know very little of the fluff though I thought about converting the BA to CSM as well.

I think it's funny when people ask about pictures for the models or the like, people ignore them.

If there were pictures, people would have already posted them.

Besides the people doing the localization (i.e. mucking about with the text in the books and boxes) may not be the ones making the minis. Those would seem like two slightly different skill sets to me. Since these leaks are, ostensibly, from the localization team it makes sense that all we have are book pages. That said I could do with more book pages, the pages with the unit special rules on them may be nice, I want to know what other differences between current units and starter units exist outside of the statlines. It would be fun to get an early glimpse at what we will likely see in the Chaos and Dark Angels codices (still hoping for Skilled Rider on the Ravenwing; with the built-in Jink rule they would finally have their original 2nd Edition special rules back :p).