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Its probably just the name of the generic DA captain we're getting

Steve steveson wrote:

IdentifyZero wrote:
They already have a set like that, the dark angels upgrade set, it's also one of the cheapest kits to buy and best value. Gives you 5 marines in robes + dark angels shoulder pads, helms, weaponry and even terminator accessories. I can see them repackaging it and upping the price to 2x the amount.

You meen like this one:
http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/productDetail.jsp?catId=cat1400016&prodId=prod1060236
I doubt they will repackage the upgrade sprue since they already sell it in a box with a special weapons sprue, and they upped the price just a few weeks back.

kenshin620 wrote:I already mentioned the DA Vet squad in another topic, then someone slapped me down saying its just a DA Sprue with a generic SM sprue. Seems that people want a complete standalone kit like the SW sets

They are wrong. It is a completly diffrent sprue. The only thing the same is the special weapons sprue.

Actually, the Company Veteran Kit last time I checked, includes the same dark angels upgrade sprues PLUS extras. Which justifies the price difference. So while I appreciate your direction to a link to a product after my post, you failed to miss the point.

I had said I can see them repackaging just the upgrade sprues for 2x the amount (WHICH WAS INTENDED AS A JOKE, given how much GW likes to repackage and raise prices)

My bad

Grot 6 wrote:They have several different ones in the Forgeworld lines.

IIRC, they had some Blood Pact, from the Tanith days in there, somewhere.

There have never been Blood Pact Models you are probably thinking about the generic traitor guard that FW made. Not Blood Pact though.


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Lockark wrote:You know. I'm excited for this set for 2 reasons.

1)Plastic Cultists.
2)Source of Plastic PA Chaos Lighting Claws! O______O

I'm surprised more chaos players aren't excited for that inclusion alone!

It will be nice to get chaos lightning claws but its going to cost $100. A little steep for a pair of lightning claws!

brettz123 wrote:

Grot 6 wrote:They have several different ones in the Forgeworld lines.

IIRC, they had some Blood Pact, from the Tanith days in there, somewhere.

There have never been Blood Pact Models you are probably thinking about the generic traitor guard that FW made. Not Blood Pact though.


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Lockark wrote:You know. I'm excited for this set for 2 reasons.

1)Plastic Cultists.
2)Source of Plastic PA Chaos Lighting Claws! O______O

I'm surprised more chaos players aren't excited for that inclusion alone!

No price is too steep for Lightning claws!!!

It will be nice to get chaos lightning claws but its going to cost $100. A little steep for a pair of lightning claws!

This will be awesome just for a plastic librarian (hopefully DA-ified) and a DA captain in plastic. I also hope that the termies are made to look seriously DA (with robes and all) although I know this is a little too hopeful. Ravenwing should be good too...

Im hoping the bikes are easy to convert. I hope they arent just halves like the deffcopta is(or was?) I hope they are more akin to the bikes we have. andtalest make the bike and riders seperate.

At this point I can't get to excited until we see pictures of the figs.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Im hoping the bikes are easy to convert. I hope they arent just halves like the deffcopta is(or was?) I hope they are more akin to the bikes we have. andtalest make the bike and riders seperate.

They'll have to be similar to the deffkoptas, otherwise they wouldnt really work as snap fits

SkaerKrow wrote:Unless Chosen have gotten a serious stat increase, this rumored starter set leaves them heavily outmatched by the Dark Angels. So much so that I'm a little skeptical that this will be the final configuration of the starter set.

From the scan in Chinese, they didn't get any stat upgrades. They have 1 base attack, with the Champion having 2. Everything else is standard Marine 4s.

Imperial Monkey wrote:This will be awesome just for a plastic librarian (hopefully DA-ified) and a DA captain in plastic. I also hope that the termies are made to look seriously DA (with robes and all) although I know this is a little too hopeful. Ravenwing should be good too...

I optimistically infer from the fact that they're specifically labelled as 'Deathwing' rather than simply 'terminators' that they'll be new, Dark Angels-specific sculpts.

GW, of course, do so love to disprove their customers' optimism, but if they're just the Black Reach sprues again, I certainly shan't be purchasing the box set.

You know what would be AWESOME!?! If they didn't bother molding the plastic for the bikes at all, and just gave us blocks of non-descript plastic! That way, we could carve them ourselves! SCHWEETE!!!

Seriously, though, if we want them to keep the cost down, then they will go with snap-fit... and I for one would like to keep the cost down... Unwashed heathens (new players) haven't developed the addiction to plastic-crack that most of the people reading this have, and as such, will take a wide berth from paying the cost of a seasoned army, for a game that they may or may not delve happily into. Once they have stared, unblinking into the abyss, they will come around... We just have to bait the hook.

If you really want more convertability with the bikes, get the Ravenwing box set... It has significantly more convertability, AND costs less than the Starter Set...

Plus, it's got all things DA in it... Termi-parts, Marini-parts, Land Speedi-parts... Oh, and a Land Speeder, and Assault Bike...

I have 2... mostly because of the Land Speeders... Maybe I should just have gotten the Land Speeders...
But the base for the speeder has the ball-joint style... And I LIKE it!

Looking forward to this!
Added to my 2 ravenwing battleforces, AoBR, robed guys, and command squad that I've just stripped down in dettol (reduced mostly to individual pieces now!) for a magnetising and repainting, I should be looking at a nice sized DA army on the cheap with ebay!
Can't wait!

If they are robed guys, I'll probably pick up a couple of sets. I haven't played power armor since 2nd edition, but I'm already contemplating building some Blood Angels to be used as allies for my DKoK (dammit, they got me), and I wouldn't mind building some Dark Angels as well, so I have the Angels of Death backing me up.

Of course, the Chaos codex will probably have me dusting off all of my retro Chaos marines as well, and thankfully the DKoK IG look sinister enough to serve as allies for either force.

Maybe they will all be Finecast

So, to the couple of guys saying that a Dark Angels set should have scouts for troops, maybe you should check out the DA codex.
On the other side of that coin, the tac marines are a bit useless at this point for DA. Basically, a competitive list for us takes a pile of terminators and some landspeeders or vindicators for horde killers.
I do completely understand the tac marines in the starter box, as it is directed at beginners.
One other thing - if people are wondering about the named units in the starter box, just check out the Island of Blood set, they named every unit in there as well, just to make starter games more fun and fluffy.

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Anpu42 wrote:Maybe they will all be Finecast

I shudder just at the thought of that.

I see this starter set as one of GW's last chances to keep me addicted to their hobby, otherwise I am moving on to a new game! Robed termies would be amazing and save much pain and gs work on my part!

Commander Cain wrote:

Anpu42 wrote:Maybe they will all be Finecast

I shudder just at the thought of that.

I see this starter set as one of GW's last chances to keep me addicted to their hobby, otherwise I am moving on to a new game! Robed termies would be amazing and save much pain and gs work on my part!

I would think we would have to wait until the now Dark Angels Codex comes out. though Snap tight Robed Terminator Easier to Miniature.

Again:

DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

Kroothawk wrote:Again:

DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

The Master would not approve of being called Captain.

Kroothawk wrote:Again:

DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

The breakdown goes like this:
Company Masters->Chapter Masters->Supreme Grand Master

It's important to remember that Company Masters lead into Chapter Masters, because when Azrael(Supreme Grand Master of the Unforgiven) calls--all the Chapters which can will come to his aid.

hotsauceman1 wrote:Im hoping the bikes are easy to convert. I hope they arent just halves like the deffcopta is(or was?) I hope they are more akin to the bikes we have. andtalest make the bike and riders seperate.

I'm betting on them being in 3 parts. 2 halves and handlebars with the arms attached.

All I really want is the mini-rulebook. And although I don't have a dog in this fight, I'm hoping for Chaos in the starter and a new codex. While I wasn't playing 40K back in the Lost and the Damned days, I did read WD, and thought cultists and Traitor Guard were a colorful part of the 40K background. With the new allies rules, a CSM player could field varied and interesting armies. Hopefully effective armies to encourage Chaos players to keep playing and not selling everything in frustration.

Similarly, I wouldn't mind the return of Genestealer cults for the same reasons (although mainly for color).

If the marine figures are generic enough, I'll probably get the boxed set. I don't mind the HQ being DA-specific: for my Sanguinary Priests I used some DA robed legs and added Death Company bits to make the SPs more "priest" than "medic". Something similar could be done with a DA-specific Librarian. Both the DA and BA have more religious iconography than even the typical SM chapter and their HQ units should reflect that.

Kroothawk wrote:Again:

DARK ANGELS DON'T HAVE CAPTAINS, THE EQUIVALENT IS CALLED MASTER (OF THE CHAPTER).

And?

A Company Master and a Company Captain fulfil the same role, so calling it one or the other really makes little difference. Besides, they could be changing the DA fluff in their new Codex.

Pedantry. Does it ever need a reason?

A cheap flood of plastic cultists on eBay would certainly be welcome, provided the sculpts are nice.

don't the 6th ed rule have some pics of cultists models?

Is it too much to hope the figures will be of the quality found in the Space Hulk set?

Probably, since it is a starter set... one can dream a little dream, however.

More likely the quality of the AOBR set,

Not bad, but not stunning.

Ascalam wrote:More likely the quality of the AOBR set,

Not bad, but not stunning.

I'm expecting Island of Blood quality level, actually. I.e., fething awesome.

Wouldn't complain if it was

Might tempt me into making that stealer cult again with the culties...