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102nd Expeditionary Fleet

€85,- is a bit too much yeah..

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I like how we discuss pricing but neglect the fact that most countries have places you pay less than RRP. Especially USA and UK. Whatever the RRP is then I'll be paying 25% less.

I'm glad GW are supporting this, it's great and I'd rather proper models rather than zombicide type plastic. As far as 40k rules go, it's unrealistic to expect minor units to impact the game much and viability is purely from the competitive point of view. Which is not really going to be BSF's target audience IMO.

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 TwilightSparkles wrote:
I like how we discuss pricing but neglect the fact that most countries have places you pay less than RRP. Especially USA and UK. Whatever the RRP is then I'll be paying 25% less.



So you mean GW make that price so the "25% off folks" will be paying at the correct price while the rest just had to pay at 133.3% of the price?

oh wow thanks "25% off people"!

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That's over 80% the price of BSF itself.

No thanks...

   
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Bright side? It is Spikeybitz, so could be a figure pulled out their Jacksie for clicks.

Could also be true. So that’s, what, £80 or so?

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102nd Expeditionary Fleet

£65,- if true.

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$110 would probably be around £70 in GW conversion land.

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Whatever it is, I'll buy it with a decent discount at some point.

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 TwilightSparkles wrote:
I like how we discuss pricing but neglect the fact that most countries have places you pay less than RRP. Especially USA and UK. Whatever the RRP is then I'll be paying 25% less.
According to my calculations, 75% of $110 is more than 75% of $80. In fact, it rather appears that when the original number increases, so too does 75% of that number, linearly.
You will end up paying more, period.
Regardless of whether you are accustomed to paying 75% of RRP or full RRP, this set is disproportionally expensive to, say, the full Blackstone Fortress base set.
   
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 BrookM wrote:
£65,- if true.


You get a bunch of cultists, 5 explorers. and some cards aswell as other stuff.
Probably 75-100 CHF range.
Which is excessive, again to no ones surprise.

Also am i the only one that questions the firebrand? As in, cut away the Chaos stars and you get a GSC flame hybrid? Atleast design wise?

However i am intrigued by the Mention of Stubcarbines.

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Not Online!!! wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
£65,- if true.


You get a bunch of cultists, 5 explorers. and some cards aswell as other stuff.
Probably 75-100 CHF range.
Which is excessive, again to no ones surprise.

Also am i the only one that questions the firebrand? As in, cut away the Chaos stars and you get a GSC flame hybrid? Atleast design wise?

However i am intrigued by the Mention of Stubcarbines.


Sicarian infiltrators have stub carbines 18" pistol 3 S4 /0/1
   
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 0XFallen wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 BrookM wrote:
£65,- if true.


You get a bunch of cultists, 5 explorers. and some cards aswell as other stuff.
Probably 75-100 CHF range.
Which is excessive, again to no ones surprise.

Also am i the only one that questions the firebrand? As in, cut away the Chaos stars and you get a GSC flame hybrid? Atleast design wise?

However i am intrigued by the Mention of Stubcarbines.


Sicarian infiltrators have stub carbines 18" pistol 3 S4 /0/1


That doesn't sound like a half bad weapon actually. In essence it's a MP/SMG.


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Even with 25% off, that's still a yikes from me.

£65 ish for 13 models and some cards.
   
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Five of those are character models though, it's not as bad as traitor command I guess.

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 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Five of those are character models though, it's not as bad as traitor command I guess.


Dropping out from a helicopter is less bad then from a plane.



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callidusx3 wrote:
Price is out there and it appears to be US$110


Wow. Love this game and the models, but $110 is beyond the pale.
   
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Not Online!!! wrote:
 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Five of those are character models though, it's not as bad as traitor command I guess.


Dropping out from a helicopter is less bad then from a plane.




Considering Mallex is £17.50 on his own and is comparable to the other characters in BSF, five characters at a similar price point isn't that terrible, so sure, helicopter is better than a plane.

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 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Not Online!!! wrote:
 Tyranid Horde wrote:
Five of those are character models though, it's not as bad as traitor command I guess.


Dropping out from a helicopter is less bad then from a plane.




Considering Mallex is £17.50 on his own and is comparable to the other characters in BSF, five characters at a similar price point isn't that terrible, so sure, helicopter is better than a plane.


Except that Mallex is an actual character on his own sprue. These Escalation "characters" are 2-3 pieces miniature shoved into a tiny sprue together.

I'd pay the 110$ if they are each on their own sprue like Mallex.

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And he's five pieces, there's really not that much of a difference...

I'm not defending GW's pricing, but it's worth noting that it's a decent deal for those characters if you can look past the likelihood they'll never see 40k game time.

EDIT: Some of the characters can definitely be used as generic models in 40k which is something you couldn't do with the base set.

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I think my issue is ever believing that a plastic character on a single sprue, regardless of how cool it looks, will never be worth $35.

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I guess I would have preferred a single new character, with one new enemy type, in an expansion if it would come in at around $50 or $60.
   
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What is this 25% off stuff? I’ve literally never seen a GW product more than 15% off, as I thought that was a hard limit set by the company.
   
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Quasistellar wrote:
What is this 25% off stuff? I’ve literally never seen a GW product more than 15% off, as I thought that was a hard limit set by the company.
GW has a maximum online discount rule, which means that stores that sell GW products can not advertise any discount greater than 15% (which is why places like GameNerdz require you to add GW daily sale items to your cart to see what the sale price is), and sales greater than 15% must be limited to short sales. You can't give a permanent discount of 25% to GW products without GW no longer selling to you.

Basically, 15% is the best you are going to get online, but a FLGS could potentially offer a greater discount (they rarely do though). This is specifically in the US though. I've heard of some UK stores that offer better discounts.

(Should be noted that Privateer Press and Asmodee/FFG have similar agreements, but Corvus Belli does not, and you can get Infinity stuff from places like GameNerdz for 25%-30% off).
   
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Regardless, if $110 US s the price, that’s a HARD pass. I’ll just pick up combat arena, as I only really want the heroes anyway.
   
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Quasistellar wrote:
Regardless, if $110 US s the price, that’s a HARD pass. I’ll just pick up combat arena, as I only really want the heroes anyway.

Good luck with that, as it's sold through at Barnes & Noble(the only place currently stocking it).

Also, it's $40 for just that.
   
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UK independent stores do indeed offer up to 25% off. I regularly order from Dark Sphere who have 25% off online, 20% off in store, but if you spend over £100 in store you get 25% off there as well
   
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robbienw wrote:
UK independent stores do indeed offer up to 25% off. I regularly order from Dark Sphere who have 25% off online, 20% off in store, but if you spend over £100 in store you get 25% off there as well

Do they ship outside UK? The Sterling will soon be worth less than bottlecaps so it is starting to seem really silly to pay the inflated Euro prices...

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Damn everyone outside the UK really does pay a TON more for GW stuff. The currency conversion plus VAT plus local sales tax.

Also, I don’t really need luck to pick up a game at Barnes and Noble. I just walk in and grab it. $40 for a full (albeit simple) game with five models is actually reasonable for a board game.
   
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Since the 5 explorer models are available for $40 (five models ($8 each), plus boards and cards) the chaos guys are basically $70 for 8 more models (also 8.75 model) These are slightly nicer than the old Dark Vengeance chaos cultists but those are $2 each so that's a crazy increase. (mad I wish one could still get the chaos cultists leaders from that)

That said it sounds like more work was done on the game design for this in terms of "story" and having the characters personalities come out in the rules in some manner. I can accept paying for it, but of course I'd like it to be cheaper.
   
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Quasistellar wrote:
Damn everyone outside the UK really does pay a TON more for GW stuff. The currency conversion plus VAT plus local sales tax.

Also, I don’t really need luck to pick up a game at Barnes and Noble. I just walk in and grab it. $40 for a full (albeit simple) game with five models is actually reasonable for a board game.


To be fair, due to reasons we can't discuss on Dakka, the GBP is currently losing value at a great rate of knots, making the already wonky GW currency conversion worse.

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