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I guess $100 if that’s a price point GW has - but at the end of the day, maybe i’m Just hoping it’s not at the BSF price.

And those 2 model $60 ‘expandions’ are stupid-priced and hopefully won’t be used to help price this new set!

   
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Probably will be, at least until the Lost and Damned Codex comes out.

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I'm hoping that they charge closer to squad prices than character prices, 'cause yeah, they're dumb. I just couldn't stomach the traitor command prices so ordered the rules from a bits place. I'm sure I can find something to represent those models.


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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
I'm hoping that they charge closer to squad prices than character prices, 'cause yeah, they're dumb. I just couldn't stomach the traitor command prices so ordered the rules from a bits place. I'm sure I can find something to represent those models.


That's 2 squad, 50US$ each, 100US$ and all those cardboards and cards are free, what a steal!
   
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The secret to guessing GW's pricing scheme is figure out how much you would want pay for it. Now forget that. Figure out how much you begrudgingly would pay for it. Forget that too. Now figure out how much you would initially consider outrageous and too expensive, but when the time comes, you'd probably end up paying it anyway, because you have a problem... That's the price it will be.
   
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Spot on, hilarious AND depressingly true!

   
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Just to remind people that Combat Arena is 40$, so this look like a 75-100US$ expansion.
   
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 Alpharius wrote:
Spot on, hilarious AND depressingly true!
Experience has taught me that GW always seems to know the exact price to set something where you balk, rant, and fume, but still pay - but the previous BSF expansions were one of the few times where I didn't pay. That's why I think this expansion will be at least $100. That's the point where my eye rolling turns into a rude hand gesture, waving out of the car's sun roof as I drive away laughing.

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I just picked up a copy of Blackstone Fortress. I will not be purchasing the Ambull or Ogryn expansions. They're too much money for too little value.

   
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I cannot believe it myself, but GW has successfully priced
me out with the Traitor Command expansion.
And I have been buying every traitor kits from FW for years
when they still produced them.

The value and price just don't add up for me on this one.
   
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Pricing for BSF is strange if you compare it to stuff like AoS Underworld warbands (they are actually decently priced so you can pick up a box just for fun).

Its not strange when you compare the products though. Underworlds is done to bring in lots of new and perhaps younger players to the hobby.
BSF is more classy and aimed at the jaded veterans, and also aim at a serious boardgame market where the prices are usually pretty high.

Personally i refused to pay for the ambull, but grudgingly got the traitor command.

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This will cost too much for me again I think. Traitor Command was the first time I saw something I wanted from GW but couldn’t justify to myself, despite being able to convince myself that buying almost anything is a good idea.

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Will be picking this one up, even though I haven't had a chance to play the base game for painting up the models before having a game.

So cool models, I hope the price doesn't tear me a new one though...

   
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I buy the expansion and then sell the models on ebay. Makes the rules and card components basically free.

Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!

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 Flinty wrote:
I buy the expansion and then sell the models on ebay. Makes the rules and card components basically free.


Pretty smart. Only downside would be you missing out on the models, as they make about 85% of the worthwhile with this game

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Yeah, but I already have loads of models that I can proxy in easily enough. Especially for the chaff type bad guys that get removed by the handful as soon as a.certain assault cannon starts singing

Please excuse any spelling errors. I use a tablet frequently and software keyboards are a pain!

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 Sqorgar wrote:
 Alpharius wrote:

$150 USD?

No way!
How much do you think this expansion will be? The last expansion had two models and was $60 USD. I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least $100 or more.


$60 is what I feel a reasonable company might ask for this set... The box looks like its the same size as the Start Collecting and Kill Team team boxes... so ~$100 would be consistent... but it's GW, so I'm going to guess $120.... because when they think they'll sell less, they raise prices instead of lowering them to the point that the sell enough.
   
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So will these models get Killteam and 40K rules? Will those rules be unusable crap?

   
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In my gut I feel like this is a $90 GW priced box....so probably $100-110.00.

It'll still be rather exorbitant but not the obnoxious kick in the dick that the Traitor/Ambull nonsense was (so you'll feel slightly less bad about paying too much for minis)
   
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 Crimson wrote:
So will these models get Killteam and 40K rules? Will those rules be unusable crap?

The Community article says that they'll all get 40K rules.

The Firebrand might actually be useful as a second non-Commissar HQ for Servants of the Abyss detachments.

The Trader will likely be screwed by a lack of useful keywords though.
   
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I'm so frustrated about the Rogue Trader thing. I was so hyped when they first announced that there would be Rogue Trader miniatures, but the bloody rules are just so bad and restrictive. They don't even properly work in Killteam, let alone in 40K.

Between the Killteam RT set and various Blackstone weirdos there exists models for a really cool and eclectic collection of Rogue Trader related stuff, but the rule guys are just completely dropping the ball.

   
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 Crimson wrote:
I'm so frustrated about the Rogue Trader thing. I was so hyped when they first announced that there would be Rogue Trader miniatures, but the bloody rules are just so bad and restrictive. They don't even properly work in Killteam, let alone in 40K.

Between the Killteam RT set and various Blackstone weirdos there exists models for a really cool and eclectic collection of Rogue Trader related stuff, but the rule guys are just completely dropping the ball.


I wish they'd rehire the guy who put together the rules for Titanicus and Blitz Bowl. He really seemed to have a grasp on balance, complexity, and fun.

   
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Price is out there and it appears to be US$110

Henry R. 
   
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callidusx3 wrote:
Price is out there and it appears to be US$110


Ouch. A bit much for what's essentially a chaos necromunda gang and a handful of hangers-on.

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callidusx3 wrote:
Price is out there and it appears to be US$110
*Waves rude hand gesture out of car's sun roof while driving away, laughing*
   
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DeathKorp_Rider wrote:
 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
Probably will be, at least until the Lost and Damned Codex comes out.

We all know it’s coming


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And it will be a replacement unworthy of IA 13, the vraksians and the lost and the damned.

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 Norchack wrote:
 Crimson wrote:
I'm so frustrated about the Rogue Trader thing. I was so hyped when they first announced that there would be Rogue Trader miniatures, but the bloody rules are just so bad and restrictive. They don't even properly work in Killteam, let alone in 40K.

Between the Killteam RT set and various Blackstone weirdos there exists models for a really cool and eclectic collection of Rogue Trader related stuff, but the rule guys are just completely dropping the ball.


I wish they'd rehire the guy who put together the rules for Titanicus and Blitz Bowl. He really seemed to have a grasp on balance, complexity, and fun.



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I'm not going to re-read the lunacy that is the last few pages of this thread, but I'd be very surprised if anyone actually said that. Even that one guy banging on about how relatively difficult it might be for an Inquisitor to acquire power armour, I don't think even that guy said that.
 
   
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According to Spikey bits and BOLS this expansion will be 110$. I guess it'll be USD since most of their other pricing articles also use USD.

That's an easy skip for me lol.

 Norchack wrote:

I wish they'd rehire the guy who put together the rules for Titanicus and Blitz Bowl. He really seemed to have a grasp on balance, complexity, and fun.



Uggh no thanks, he flipped the lore around and completely ignore any estalished rule for weapons in lore and other publication just for his "balance". For example Knight -class avenger gatling cannon had range of an artillery guns while shooting faster than titan-class vulcan bolter, meanwhile it is too weak to pierce void shield despite having similar caliber to Vulcan-mega bolter in other publication. Low-tier plasma blast gun had blast while high-tier Plasma annihilator didn't.

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Yikes. That price is insane.
   
 
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