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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 02:59:01
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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I was looking at old 1st ed Wh40k: Rogue Trader materials online and came across this old ad for Iron Claw space pirates (attached below). The Iron Claw have some relation to Squats, just to put things in perspective...yeah, it's old.
At 1st glance, these are some typical Rogue Trader miniatures, back when Rick Priestley described Wh40k as "science fantasy." Everyone was like a fantasy RPG character, but with laser rifles and rad-to-the-max names like "Banzai Jones."
Then I saw these blue guys, specifically Zandar, Colonel Vlad, and Ooglorg the Cruel. What, in the Emperor's name, are they? I googled and searched these forums, but couldn't find mention of them. It's a curious relic from a lost time that I'm becoming increasingly obsessed with.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 03:36:29
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Tough Tyrant Guard
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There as different type of Ork or its just a blue Ork, Or is it a race from star trek??
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 03:42:21
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Grisly Ghost Ark Driver
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Oh god! What have you done!? Now some GW employee trolling the forums is going to find this and use it for consideration as a new codex. DE and Necrons will be pushed even further back thanks to this!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 04:31:20
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Doc Brown
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I think they're Pan Fo...
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"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favored Son of Chaos, all praise be given to him. From those that would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the Boon of Pain, to turn the Galaxy red with the blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods."
-Excerpt from the Three Hundred and Forty-First
Book of Epistles of Lorgar
Cheese Elemental wrote:That made me think... what's a good pick-up line in the Imperium?
"Hey baby, my plasma cannon's running hot and I need to purge you in the name of the Emperor tonight." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 06:16:15
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Raging Ravener
Great Falls, MT
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Kommissar Waaaghrick wrote:I was looking at old 1st ed Wh40k: Rogue Trader materials online and came across this old ad for Iron Claw space pirates (attached below). The Iron Claw have some relation to Squats, just to put things in perspective...yeah, it's old.
At 1st glance, these are some typical Rogue Trader miniatures, back when Rick Priestley described Wh40k as "science fantasy." Everyone was like a fantasy RPG character, but with laser rifles and rad-to-the-max names like "Banzai Jones."
Then I saw these blue guys, specifically Zandar, Colonel Vlad, and Ooglorg the Cruel. What, in the Emperor's name, are they? I googled and searched these forums, but couldn't find mention of them. It's a curious relic from a lost time that I'm becoming increasingly obsessed with.

More than likely some sort of barbaric abhuman race, or just an alien race which isn't on the Imperiums threat radar who shares common goals with human space pirates...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 06:28:34
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Fireknife Shas'el
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Just another abhuman race
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 06:36:19
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Poxed Plague Monk
The 11th circle of Hell
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or very very fugly tau :p
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Once more down to the beach, dear friends, once more,
To drown our sorrows with our English beer!
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility;
But when the blast of alcohol blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger:
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 07:02:32
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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RogueSangre
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Kurgash wrote:Oh god! What have you done!? Now some GW employee trolling the forums is going to find this and use it for consideration as a new codex. DE and Necrons will be pushed even further back thanks to this!!
Don't worry. They clearly already did this with the Tau.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/22 16:22:41
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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[DCM]
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Going that far back in GW/Citadel history usually ends up revealing really weird stuff like this...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 01:54:27
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Been Around the Block
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Whats with the tau hate...
Anyway, probably a random alien race that has no notable accomplishments so we haven't heard of them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 01:56:59
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Mounted Kroot Tracker
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There's also the green guy at the bottom. Don't forget him.
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Night Watch SM
Kroot Mercenaries W 2 - D 3 - L 1
Manchu wrote: This is simply a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone says, "it won't change so why should I bother to try?" and then it doesn't change so people feel validated in their bad behavior.
Nightwatch's Kroot Blog
DQ:90-S++G++M-B++I+Pw40k08#+D+A--/cWD-R+T(S)DM+
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 02:05:08
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Disbeliever of the Greater Good
Creeping through the bushes, looking for a target
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I would guess a really messed up early version of the Tau, since in early Tau fluff it referred to them being pirates and not the super-advanced psuedo-religious right-wingers they are today.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 03:51:10
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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PanOceaniac Hacking Specialist Sergeant
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Nightwatch wrote:There's also the green guy at the bottom. Don't forget him.
Yeah, he's listed as an Asharian. Wot's dat?
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DA:70+S--G-M+B++I+Pw40k09++DA+/hWD-R-T(BG)DM+ |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 13:28:53
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You know what those are?
Na'vi. Mercenary Nav'i paired up with other ten foot tall ab-humans.
James Cameron just ripped off ANOTHER idea.
Pocahontas wasn't enough for him
Darn you James Cameron.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 13:49:18
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Courageous Questing Knight
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it looks like it would be necromunda, IMO
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DR:90S+++G++MB+I+Pw40k096D++A+/areWD360R+++T(P)DM+
3000 pt space marine 72% painted!
W/L/D 24/6/22
2500 pt Bretons 10% painted
W/L/D 1/0/0
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/337109.page lekkar diorama, aye? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 14:15:01
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
Greenville, South Cacky-Lacky
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Filthy muties, I say!
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Alles klar, eh, Kommissar? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/23 14:16:19
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Bryan Ansell
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Captain Solon wrote:it looks like it would be necromunda, IMO
These are Rogue Trader era minis, way before 'munda. another characterful collection of minis that were ignored by gamers the first time around and have now fallen by the wayside.
I reckon if you search enough around ebay you could find some.
Use em as mutants, renegade guard, or indeed in Necromunda.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/24 01:03:47
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Sergeant
Canada
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Commissar Molotov wrote:Filthy muties, I say!
Don't worry, the Inquisition got 'im. Why else would we have never seem him before.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/24 01:17:39
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Calculating Commissar
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Alpharius wrote:Going that far back in GW/Citadel history usually ends up revealing really weird stuff like this...
This man has the right idea, stop going back so far that some of us weren't born yet...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/24 01:23:11
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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I FOUND ME!
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From whom are unforgiven we bring the mercy of war. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/24 02:51:36
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Fixture of Dakka
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Perhaps there is an explanation in WD 93 (September 1987). Apparently there was an ad or display of some of these minis in that issue.
http://www.solegends.com/ironclaw/index.htm
The slotta base insert is no help. It just has the word "Mercenary" inscribed on it.
This road leads to madness. Citadel used to make a lot of creative figures which had no relation to any games. The minis preceeded the rules back then and many minis never had rules. You were actually supposed to use them for other designers' games or make up your own house rules. Ooooooo, heresy!
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The secret to painting a really big army is to keep at it. You can't reach your destination if you never take any steps.
I build IG...lots and lots of IG. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/25 11:19:41
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Vanity Killer wrote:I would guess a really messed up early version of the Tau, since in early Tau fluff it referred to them being pirates and not the super-advanced psuedo-religious right-wingers they are today.
Early Tau fluff? I call shenanigans.
And the Tau are most definitelt Left Wing, not Right.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/26 23:53:10
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Horrific Howling Banshee
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Star Trek Andorians by the looks of things. Blue skin, orange hair...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/26 23:59:41
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Rough Rider with Boomstick
Finland
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WARNING! Severe temporal distortion detected! Local Space/Time Continuum is experiencing fluctuation in causality stability.
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12001st Valusian Airborne
Chrome Warriors
Death Guard
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/02/27 00:38:15
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Slaanesh Chosen Marine Riding a Fiend
Inside a pretty, pretty pain cave... won't you come inside?
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Hey listen: you don't **** with Ooglorg the Cruel, OK? Just back the **** down!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/05 18:40:58
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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All your responses have been enlightening and entertaining. I'll take these ideas for putting together a Killteam in the new Battle Missions book, using the IG codex, for an Iron Claw space pirate crew. Thanks a lot.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/06 00:42:31
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Doc Brown
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Could it be Waldo?
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"From the fires of Betrayal unto the blood of revenge we bring the name of Lorgar, the Bearer of the Word, the favored Son of Chaos, all praise be given to him. From those that would not heed we offer praise to those who do, that they might turn their gaze our way and gift us with the Boon of Pain, to turn the Galaxy red with the blood, and feed the hunger of the Gods."
-Excerpt from the Three Hundred and Forty-First
Book of Epistles of Lorgar
Cheese Elemental wrote:That made me think... what's a good pick-up line in the Imperium?
"Hey baby, my plasma cannon's running hot and I need to purge you in the name of the Emperor tonight." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/06 03:16:07
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Nurgle Veteran Marine with the Flu
Pennsylvania, USA
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I think the link to the WD section gave the answer.
In warhammer fantasy section "Iron claw goblins"
Look at these guys. They all have goblin features. I would guess they were an early version of a roving group of orkz/goblins or a man+ork/goblin mongrel people.
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In the embrace of the great Nurgle, I am no longer afraid, for with His pestilential favour I have become that which I once most feared: Death.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/06 09:22:50
Subject: Re:Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Excellent Exalted Champion of Chaos
Grim Forgotten Nihilist Forest.
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Jebus those models make me cringe.
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I've sold so many armies. :(
Aeldari 3kpts
Slaves to Darkness.3k
Word Bearers 2500k
Daemons of Chaos
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2010/03/06 11:59:40
Subject: Blue-skinned space pirates from 1st ed Wh40k (image attached) - what race are they?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
The ruins of the Palace of Thorns
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I need to go in my parents loft and dig out WD50 and 51. That'll have some amusing stuff in it...
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