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I really like the model. I didn’t realise it was quite so long, I thought it was more compact but I prefer it the way it is. I probably won’t get one for a while if I do at all but I’d like to pick it up one day.

I really like it!
Love that the model is far longer too, makes it feel more balanced in design. It will be ages before I get one though (AoS has kind of dominated me this last half a year and I've committed myself to finishing my Daughters of Khaine army before flitting back to any other "major" army project)

Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Excellent model and the rules are also good. It's fairly costed!

Necrons have a Strat to keep it operating at max output for only 1CP.

The second weapon option is definitely better as you get powerful main weapons and a set of good support weapons. Also it's fast and damn good in close combat!

Good job FW!

Regarding the Carnodon tank released some weeks ago, I've been playing with the idea of getting the squadron bundle for my IG army.

What's your opinion of the Carnodon tank?

I'm not sure I would equip mine with Volkite weapons, as I suspect Volkites might be removed in later editions of 40k (or made inconvenient or over costed), but I've always felt my army was missing light/medium tanks, and Carnodons fill that role.

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Please, please tell me this was a joke. Or that you didn't touch any of their books in the last decade or so...

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Please, please tell me this was a joke. Or that you didn't touch any of their books in the last decade or so...

He's the only one ever who's ever thought that. *shrug*

 Zingraff wrote:
Regarding the Carnodon tank released some weeks ago, I've been playing with the idea of getting the squadron bundle for my IG army.

What's your opinion of the Carnodon tank?

I'm not sure I would equip mine with Volkite weapons, as I suspect Volkites might be removed in later editions of 40k (or made inconvenient or over costed), but I've always felt my army was missing light/medium tanks, and Carnodons fill that role.

I like the Carnodon. It's best with either full lascannons and the Cadian regiment for efficient long range support or to go max Volkite and a Multi laser for lots of Str6 firepower.

 Ishagu wrote:
Excellent model and the rules are also good. It's fairly costed!

Necrons have a Strat to keep it operating at max output for only 1CP.

The second weapon option is definitely better as you get powerful main weapons and a set of good support weapons. Also it's fast and damn good in close combat!

Good job FW!

Yeah, not sure I understand the pricing. I mean, one weapons option is clearly better than the other, so why are they same price?

tneva82 wrote:

 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Am I missing something or are the Transdimensional Projectors a significant downgrade over the default weapons?

You get 2d3 16/-4/6 and 2d6 S6 -3 d3(with mortal wound chance) over 6d3 S8 -3 d6 with MW's. So maybe worse vs big lone models(haven't mathed it yet) but # of shots at least nearly doubles. And S16 matters a lot vs T8(knights) and flat D6 is pretty good as well

Um, maybe I don't get something, but 2d3 = 4, 2d6 = 7, so 11. 6d3 = 12, which last time I checked is not half of 11. I suppose big guns get extra range but potential damage output is much worse, 24 (+14 if you're within 24 inches and roll really lucky) is less than ~42 wounds, both on average rolls, and that is without counting mortals which again favors singularity more...

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

8th ed titan rules are a horrible mess.

 gorgon wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Please, please tell me this was a joke. Or that you didn't touch any of their books in the last decade or so...

He's the only one ever who's ever thought that. *shrug*

He really isn't, FW's 40K rules aren't any worse than GW's and at times have been better, their AoD tweaks are definitely better, and the issues with the 8th indexes are hardly their fault given GW sprang 8th on them and they had to rush them out.

I get that some people got touched in the bad place by a cheesemonger using an unbalanced FW unit when they were a kid, but if you're playing GW games generally singling out FW for particular criticism over rules writing is sheer farce. I mean christ people, GW's rules writing was so bad it helped to kill the game that launched their whole company.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Please, please tell me this was a joke. Or that you didn't touch any of their books in the last decade or so...

He's the only one ever who's ever thought that. *shrug*

He really isn't, FW's 40K rules aren't any worse than GW's and at times have been better, their AoD tweaks are definitely better, and the issues with the 8th indexes are hardly their fault given GW sprang 8th on them and they had to rush them out.

I get that some people got touched in the bad place by a cheesemonger using an unbalanced FW unit when they were a kid, but if you're playing GW games generally singling out FW for particular criticism over rules writing is sheer farce. I mean christ people, GW's rules writing was so bad it helped to kill the game that launched their whole company.

It killed 40k? news to me (sarcasm, but only partly). And how could GW have "sprung" 8th edition on FW when they're the same company? FW would have known about it as soon as the decision was made to produce 8th.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Please, please tell me this was a joke. Or that you didn't touch any of their books in the last decade or so...

He's the only one ever who's ever thought that. *shrug*

He really isn't, FW's 40K rules aren't any worse than GW's and at times have been better, their AoD tweaks are definitely better, and the issues with the 8th indexes are hardly their fault given GW sprang 8th on them and they had to rush them out.

I get that some people got touched in the bad place by a cheesemonger using an unbalanced FW unit when they were a kid, but if you're playing GW games generally singling out FW for particular criticism over rules writing is sheer farce. I mean christ people, GW's rules writing was so bad it helped to kill the game that launched their whole company.

It killed 40k? news to me (sarcasm, but only partly). And how could GW have "sprung" 8th edition on FW when they're the same company? FW would have known about it as soon as the decision was made to produce 8th.

No GW is compartmentalized like crazy to make identifying leakers easier.
FW weren't told about 8th edition, they have made public statements to the effect that FW found about 8th edition when the players did.

Ice_can wrote:

FW weren't told about 8th edition, they have made public statements to the effect that FW found about 8th edition when the players did.

No they didn't!

Ice_can wrote:
No GW is compartmentalized like crazy to make identifying leakers easier.
FW weren't told about 8th edition, they have made public statements to the effect that FW found about 8th edition when the players did.

That's ludicrous.

I’ve been to HQ, on the staff side.

Twaddle.

Spesh as we got the FW Indecies really quickly....

How can't they know about 8th edition when they are literally working in the same building?
How can anybody believe that?

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Irbis wrote:

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Please, please tell me this was a joke. Or that you didn't touch any of their books in the last decade or so...

He's the only one ever who's ever thought that. *shrug*

He really isn't, FW's 40K rules aren't any worse than GW's and at times have been better, their AoD tweaks are definitely better, and the issues with the 8th indexes are hardly their fault given GW sprang 8th on them and they had to rush them out.

I get that some people got touched in the bad place by a cheesemonger using an unbalanced FW unit when they were a kid, but if you're playing GW games generally singling out FW for particular criticism over rules writing is sheer farce. I mean christ people, GW's rules writing was so bad it helped to kill the game that launched their whole company.

It killed 40k? news to me (sarcasm, but only partly). And how could GW have "sprung" 8th edition on FW when they're the same company? FW would have known about it as soon as the decision was made to produce 8th.

Pretty sure Warhammer Fantasy predates 40k.

He was being sarcastic, as is, W40K was what made GW as big as they are now, even if Fantasy was there first.

 Galas wrote:
How can't they know about 8th edition when they are literally working in the same building?
How can anybody believe that?

Well, they do and they don’t. Last time I was staff (2010) Forgeworld were on the ground floor, left of reception. The Studio was first floor, right of reception.

FW were happy for us to walk in whenevs. Studio, polar opposite.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:
I’ve been to HQ, on the staff side.

Twaddle.

Spesh as we got the FW Indecies really quickly....

I've spoken to people who've also been to HQ on the staff side, and by their accounts it's not twaddle at all. All the different subdivisions are kept separate, keycards everywhere, left hand doesn't even know the right hand exists.

And the fact we got the indices really quickly is exactly the point - they were gak because GW told FW about 8th so late they had to rush them out the door. Or are we forgetting Fires already, where FW spent ages working on a supplement for 7th and ended up having to scrap the whole thing because they'd almost finished it by the time they found out 8th was coming.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
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It killed 40k? news to me (sarcasm, but only partly). And how could GW have "sprung" 8th edition on FW when they're the same company? FW would have known about it as soon as the decision was made to produce 8th.

You're kidding aye? I mean, surely if you're going to make snarky remarks you'd make sure you knew WHF was around for years before 40K and was the system around which GW developed from a retailer of other people's stuff into the style of company that exists today.

And as above - they're "the same company", but GW are paranoid nutters - less GWHQ, more GCHQ. The FW team get told about 40K stuff shortly before it's ready to go. The Specialist Games guys weren't even told Shadow War and the Sector Mechanicus terrain were being developed while they were busy working on Necromunda. People can scoff all they like, but eventually they could maybe provide an alternative explanation for why non-Studio teams keep presenting every appearance of being completely blindsided by what the Studio guys are doing.

 Galas wrote:
How can't they know about 8th edition when they are literally working in the same building?
How can anybody believe that?

Very easily - if the internal structure is highly compartmentalized. GW treats leaks and such quite seriously - they are very keen to control their marketing. Plus I think that they are more than aware of how damaging info being released too early can be.

Just look at Spartan Games for a good example of where info released too early is bad. They hinted at ships and factions and things long before they were firm releases. When they then never mentioned them again they lost faith from the market; when those dates got slipped and such it further harmed their image. Heck just look at the marketing explosion when one half of a sprue is leaked (the recent Fiend of Slaanesh). Now we know that's coming and we knew it was coming, but imagine if some of those early design phase photos or such got out - models that are years off or which are only ever concepts could be leaked everywhere.


Also even in smaller teams its possible that work schedules and layout can mean that you never end up in the other half of the site even if you're only a handfull of paces from it. I've worked in a few places where there's a big divide on staff; a good example is indoor/customer staff and outdoor/practical staff. Even though they are working on the same site, you can go months without actually spending any time in the "other half" of the site or such, even if you're only a few paces from each other. You come in and get on with your work in your niche.

tneva82 wrote:

 xttz wrote:
Interesting they put a little diagram on the datasheet showing how to treat it's base even if it doesn't have one. Wonder if this will become a thing going forward.

Could be with fw models. Fw generally does rules better

Welcome to an opinion held by a single person... you.

FW is a disaster in 8th.

Hooooray! My girlfriend just preordered me the Necron Walker for my birthday! Can’t wait to get that bad boy painted up

It's odd that the description(s) of the Seraptek talk about it controlling other canoptek constructs, but it's rules... don't.

 Legiocustodes wrote:
Hooooray! My girlfriend just preordered me the Necron Walker for my birthday! Can’t wait to get that bad boy painted up

Yes.

Hello.

Is that the Nerd Police? It is? Excellent.

Yes. I’d like to report a Nerd with a girlfriend. And she buys him expensive Resin Crack.

What’s that? He’s looking at 25 to life? Sounds fair.

Oh? Erm....my name? It’s....J.R. Hartley.

 Lord Damocles wrote:
It's odd that the description(s) of the Seraptek talk about it controlling other canoptek constructs, but it's rules... don't.

Yeah, however a lot of models have lore and fluff that never makes it into the rules, though it is odd they pointed it out on the web page. Would have thought it meant it used to have some kind of aura or buff for other canoptek's that was later dropped.

 Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:

 Legiocustodes wrote:
Hooooray! My girlfriend just preordered me the Necron Walker for my birthday! Can’t wait to get that bad boy painted up

Yes.

Hello.

Is that the Nerd Police? It is? Excellent.

Yes. I’d like to report a Nerd with a girlfriend. And she buys him expensive Resin Crack.

What’s that? He’s looking at 25 to life? Sounds fair.

Oh? Erm....my name? It’s....J.R. Hartley.

JR Hartley.... showing your age there; fanatastic fly fishing book!!

To be fair she only buys me these things to get me out of her for days at a time!