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What is this bullgak? I kid you not, in the 'notable battles' section of the new BA codex, one paragraph actually says outright that the Blood Angels are losing a battle to the Eldar and then the Sanguinor pops out of nowhere and kills the Avatar and all the Eldar run away despite having killed over 100 Battle-brothers.

Then I read his fluff and raged even harder. He's like an 'I Win' button in the fluff. He pops out of thin air and single-handedly wins the day. I know each codex makes its own army seem like the best in 40k, but this is just ridiculous. There isn't a single mention in the codex of the Sangunior being bested by anyone. He apparently... ahem, flies up into the air with a Bloodthirster and drops it to its death.

What.
The.
Feth.

Marneus Calgar has nothing on this guy. He's the single most insufferable Mary Sue in 40k. Go to your FLGS (or 4chan), read the codex yourself, and rage.

Oh, while we're on the subject of bullgak, take a look at this:



In other words, the BA codex is, fluffwise, the most ridiculous pile of gak in 40k. You thought Ultramarines were the worst? Think again, Dakka.

There wasn't a single mention of Calgar being bested in the Ultramarine dex, either. Next thing you know, the Nid dex pops along, and all of a sudden, he got put down like a bad habit.

Dark Eldar dex? Sanguinor will put the lotion in the basket, or get the Dark Lance again.

What I find amusing about the Sanguinor is the way he pops out of nowhere.

So either he's stalking BA ships (and that implies a lot of things) or it's like Santa...
"Where's Battle-Brother McBlood? Oh hey look, here comes the Sanguinor! Wonder where McBlood went."

As for the fluff creep, it's to be expected. The Doom of Malan'tai kicked the ass of an entire Craftworld, the Swarmlord owned Calgar like a little girl, and so on. When the new Eldar codex rolls out you can expect them to have steamrolled an entire hive fleet!

Not to mention he looks like a smarmy git.

God, I want to punch Matt Ward so badly.

I thought the rest of the new stuff was okay to good (I love Azreal or however you spell it), but the Sanguinor? Yeah, fluffwise complete utter rubbish. The model looks like a gold statue that had an affair with Celestine. And the mysterious appearances... please tell me I'm not the only one who went 'wtf? That sounds more like a daemon than a space marine'.


... that could be a good angle. They'd make very good Khorne worshippers if they weren't so very careful to avoid such.

You mean Astorath the Grim? Yeah, he's a cool guy. Adds a very dark touch to the Blood Angels with the whole execution thing.

I don't understand..

The necrons have allied with Marines more than once before to fight chaos. They hate warp craft and the nids have that in spades. They helped the TAU out (then ate what little souls they had)

Are you mad because the Necron lord has a name?



In the Tyranid codex, the Ultra MarinesBeat off a renegade CSM chapter, then took on a whole hivefleet. and had to use ALMOST all of thier forces.

WTH does it take for them to use it all?

For them to use the entire Ulrtamarines chapter all at once?
Necron, Tau, Eldar, Dark Eldar, CSM, CD, Tyranids and Orks team up and head straight to Terra. Then they beat the Custodes and the Ultramarines show up last second to hold them off and the Emperor stands up and starts talking, then charges with Calgar and friends to kill them all. Then they start going after all the other Chapters becaus they didn't show up and must be traitors.

sexiest_hero wrote:I don't understand..

The necrons have allied with Marines more than once before to fight chaos. They hate warp craft and the nids have that in spades. They helped the TAU out (then ate what little souls they had)

Are you mad because the Necron lord has a name?



In the Tyranid codex, the Ultra MarinesBeat off a renegade CSM chapter, then took on a whole hivefleet. and had to use ALMOST all of thier forces.

WTH does it take for them to use it all?

I think the real issue is the fact that the Blood Angels said "cheers mates, thanks for the help! You're off the hook this time, you devils, you "
And the Necrons didn't help out the Tau; they saw some warp-bastards (Tyranids) and went to town on them. Then went to town on the Tau. Big difference. Here both sides dropped their hatred to fight the Tyranids then shook hands and parted ways. There's a hell of a difference between the Eldar, who run the gamut from mildly cooperative to flying rodent gak enraged, and the Necrons who are universally homicidal machines.

Vhalyar wrote:

sexiest_hero wrote:I don't understand..

The necrons have allied with Marines more than once before to fight chaos. They hate warp craft and the nids have that in spades. They helped the TAU out (then ate what little souls they had)

Are you mad because the Necron lord has a name?



In the Tyranid codex, the Ultra MarinesBeat off a renegade CSM chapter, then took on a whole hivefleet. and had to use ALMOST all of thier forces.

WTH does it take for them to use it all?

I think the real issue is the fact that the Blood Angels said "cheers mates, thanks for the help! You're off the hook this time, you devils, you "
And the Necrons didn't help out the Tau; they saw some warp-bastards (Tyranids) and went to town on them. Then went to town on the Tau. Big difference. Here both sides dropped their hatred to fight the Tyranids then shook hands and parted ways. There's a hell of a difference between the Eldar, who run the gamut from mildly cooperative to flying rodent gak enraged, and the Necrons who are universally homicidal machines.

Exactly. It's not the alliance that's an issue, it's the fact that the Necrons and BA didn't go back to fighting. They had no reason not to.

I am really liking this Sanguinor.

G

Sigh...I hope Ward writes the next DA codex.

"Thats when the Tyranids and the Deathwing teamed up led by the MegaUber Death angel and totally facepwned that nasty Fallen!"

I hate the fact that his armor is too ornamental and like others said his Mary Sueness.I mean defeating an Avatar,those things can be taken single handedly by the primarchs(probably) or by the Emperor.

Given how often the fluff changes...It's best to ignore any of it from the Codex's. I think all this fluff to be a waste when they can concentrate more on stable rules and leave the fluff to BL authors.

Off topic,but what do you guys think of SW codex fluff.

IvanTih wrote:Off topic,but what do you guys think of SW codex fluff.

Its not too bad. Sure, there's some crazy stuff, but they're Space Wolves! They're meant to fly around the galaxy doing crazy things, and no ones surprised when they do.

Little lord Fauntleroy wrote:

IvanTih wrote:Off topic,but what do you guys think of SW codex fluff.

Its not too bad. Sure, there's some crazy stuff, but they're Space Wolves! They're meant to fly around the galaxy doing crazy things, and no ones surprised when they do.

The most Chuck Norris(crazy) stuff they did was when they had killed the corrupted void whale.

Morgrim wrote:I thought the rest of the new stuff was okay to good (I love Azreal or however you spell it), but the Sanguinor? Yeah, fluffwise complete utter rubbish. The model looks like a gold statue that had an affair with Celestine. And the mysterious appearances... please tell me I'm not the only one who went 'wtf? That sounds more like a daemon than a space marine'.


... that could be a good angle. They'd make very good Khorne worshippers if they weren't so very careful to avoid such.

The Warp isn't just evil entities, mate. The Emperor only exists as a warp-entity as it stands right now. Who's to say Sanguinius hasn't left a Warp imprint that flits and takes possession of one of his bloodline for an extreme circumstance?

The Legion of the Damned do the same thing as Sanguinus, or vice versa I guess.

@OP your saying that once they expend their resources fighting each other, then the 'Nids. They should return to blasting each other? that doesn't make tactical sense..

Of all people, the Necrons made an alliance, that just seem awkward me. I mean, they are supposed to be soulless and caring only to harvest.

And the person who posted that they allied earlier up, could you tell me when? I don't remember ever reading about the Necrons allying with anyone, and I want to know where I missed it.

Also, someone once said that "The Sanginor" sounds like the Deceiver. I think that's a pretty awesome theory. A golden, angelic being appearing at times of greatest need? tackling on threats like an Avatar and Bloodthirster with ease? A C'tan could do all that and more....

Sasori wrote:Of all people, the Necrons made an alliance, that just seem awkward me. I mean, they are supposed to be soulless and caring only to harvest.

And the person who posted that they allied earlier up, could you tell me when? I don't remember ever reading about the Necrons allying with anyone, and I want to know where I missed it.

Also, someone once said that "The Sanginor" sounds like the Deceiver. I think that's a pretty awesome theory. A golden, angelic being appearing at times of greatest need? tackling on threats like an Avatar and Bloodthirster with ease? A C'tan could do all that and more....

This.

@Cheese

There is no image macro that can suppress my rage, Manchu.

To be fair, Calgar's defeat of an Avatar was more of a fluke. He was within an inch of his life when the handwavium technology of the Pimp Fists saved his bacon. If not for that, he'd be toast.

This Sanguinor guy though... he'll probably be the reason the C'Tan won't be in the next Necron Codex - he's gone and beaten them all to death.

Some day Matt Ward and CS Goto will co-write a piece of fluff together. It will involve an Eldar extinction level event greater than the birth of Slaanesh. Calgar will surf a razorback down a river of blood while eating a charred Eldar, before uppercutting Ynnead toward the Sanguinor. They will then play 'keep away' using him.

Do the Necrons and BA really ally though? I missed that part. Wow, that's just... yeah...

Rube wrote:Some day Matt Ward and CS Goto will co-write a piece of fluff together. It will involve an Eldar extinction level event greater than the birth of Slaanesh. Calgar will surf a razorback down a river of blood while eating a charred Eldar, before uppercutting Ynnead toward the Sanguinor. They will then play 'keep away' using him.

And then the Razorback turns into a Land Raider and they use it to deep strike.

Raxmei wrote:

Rube wrote:Some day Matt Ward and CS Goto will co-write a piece of fluff together. It will involve an Eldar extinction level event greater than the birth of Slaanesh. Calgar will surf a razorback down a river of blood while eating a charred Eldar, before uppercutting Ynnead toward the Sanguinor. They will then play 'keep away' using him.

And then the Razorback turns into a Land Raider and they use it to deep strike.

While firing all four of it's MultiLazors!!!!!

Raxmei wrote:

Rube wrote:Some day Matt Ward and CS Goto will co-write a piece of fluff together. It will involve an Eldar extinction level event greater than the birth of Slaanesh. Calgar will surf a razorback down a river of blood while eating a charred Eldar, before uppercutting Ynnead toward the Sanguinor. They will then play 'keep away' using him.

And then the Razorback turns into a Land Raider and they use it to deep strike.

Needs more MULTI-LAZORZ!!!

@NurgleBoy: Gaaah beat me to it

Perhaps the witnesses were smoking something when they saw the Sanguinator do all this?

Nah otherwise they might have seen the multilasers that his wings are made of.