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**corgan**

angelshade00 wrote:
Thanks for the awesome report! Come Monday we will probably play our first 2nd Edition game. I expect Goblin Fleabag Riders to earn their keep now with the changes in shooting and nimble!

@angelshade may I ask where this takes place? Or just in a house of some friend?

**NTRabbit**

lord_blackfang wrote:
I'm sorry I have to ask this, but will there be a second pledge manager? I can't pay for KoW and DZ2 at the same time. I'm also only really interested in the new Abyssals and Nature plastics, are they planning to give us antoher chance to get them after seeing some proper previews?

I'm almost certain the're doing a new round of the PM before each of the next 2 waves

**decker_cky**

Azazelx wrote:I'd like to see Norse with a mix of Vikings and Norse Dwarves, like the old days.

I think there's a certain point where you just have to use the ally rules. Wanting dwarves in the Viking list is probably one of those cases.

**Azazelx**

Sure, I was just making a hopeful (and probably wrong) guess based on what Baragash said.

Baragash wrote:
@Azazelx: there are two future man-based (neither exclusively human) lists on the drawing board, one of which should scratch a Viking itch. No idea how far in the future that is.

**NewTruthNeomaxim**

timetowaste85 wrote:
Squig, you make it sound like Mantic is some kind of evil genius or something...

Well, you know what they are? Anyone who has met Ronnie and crew will attest to this... They're DEFINITELY gamers. They haven't lost touch with the joy of play, and being hobbyists, and having fun. Its actually refreshing, because you still feel enthusiasm when dealing with many Mantic folk.

Not every decision is a hit, and not necessarily every call the right one, but i'll be damned if everything doesn't come from a place of good intentions.

**RobertsMinis**

Mantic should get into "bed" with Gripping Beasts. Sell there plastics as Viking and Middle Eastern troops and make the fantasy elements like Yetis, Magic Carpets, Camel Cannons etc.

**DaveC**

Kings of War pledge manager will be extended.
We are aware there have been a few issues and it is a complicated Pledge manager with many options. So please do not worry about the deadline we will be leaving it open for at least another week.
Further updates to follow.
The only time sensitive information is mainly if want an existing army because we are ordering those in shortly to get to in the summer ahead of the book. If you have want an existing army please do keep trying to get your pledge in so we can get your army ready but anytime in the next few days is fine.

**Azazelx**

if want an existing army? If have want an existing army?

Cornish miners are writing Mantic's updates now?

**Baragash**

@Azazelx: Mantica-based armies, not not-other-people's. I don't remember if Dwarfs were mentioned but I don't think so (neither army is pure human). That's not to say they won't get Dwarfs necessarily, just that they weren't mentioned.

**decker_cky**

What are GW dwarfs missing from the mantic dwarf list? Anvil, flying gizmos and heavily armoured fire shooters?

**Theophony**

Finalized my order, went for the $50 basic pledge. Just not willing to drop more since we haven't seen all the new stuff yet. Only glitch I ran into is its not listing the Ronaldo the bard free figure, and didn't apply my $1 pledge credit to the order.

**lord_blackfang**

Exciting news from Mantic!

http://puggimer.net/PressRelease040115.htm

**Pete Melvin**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Exciting news from Mantic!

http://puggimer.net/PressRelease040115.htm

Kek

**Alpharius**

Workblocked.

Was it really exciting?

**Bolognesus**

April fools parody of gw end times shenanigans, and not very clever at that.
Mildly amusing quip about removing wights is about it.

**NTRabbit**

Alpharius wrote:
Workblocked.

Was it really exciting?

PRESS RELEASE – April 1, 2015
For immediate release

Mantic Games announces Kings of War: Final Days

With the massive success of its Kings of War fantasy miniature mass battle miniature game, Mantic is pleased to announce the latest edition : Final Days.

The new edition of the game features:

Exciting new rules, including new game breaking magic system
Brand new units costing over $100 each, which you can’t win a game without
Destruction of several beloved armies. Just throw those minis away because they no longer exist in our world
Loads of special characters that are so powerful, you won’t need any other units on the table
The new edition will be released in a series of 5 $100 supplements, each of which will detail a small piece of the destruction of the current world, and including retro-active rules to destroy any semblance of the current game balance as you know it.

Mantic founder and president, Rennie Ronton, was quoted as saying “We know what our customers want. We don’t need to do market surveys or ask them, they just need to buy everything we put out and quit complaining. You thought it was bad what we did to wights – wait until you see how we are going to ****-up the dwarfs!”

For more information got to http://manticgames.com

There's also some news about the KoW 2nd beta, a sneak peak of the changes from the RC

https://manticforum.com/forum/kings-of-war/kings-of-war-2-beta/222341-exciting-announcement-from-the-rules-committee

**Bolognesus**

Ninja'd

**timetowaste85**

And cue the GW takedown notice for stealing ideas in 3...2...1...

**Alpharius**

Parody is Protected - how else do you think Mantic has survived this long!

**Daedleh**

Also none of those came from Mantic.

**Pacific**

Haha, I love that final quote.

Would be interested to know who was behind that!

**Daedleh**

Updated army lists have been released by the committee:

Welcome to Phase 2 of the KoW v2 beta. Based on feedback and some other changes we have introduced you now have some revised rules and army lists to look through and help us test. The updated rules are still being formatted and Mantic will post these and make them available next week. The army lists and special rules are available now.

The goal of Phase 2
This all about testing the balance of the lists and making sure the points values are right. Additionally, if a unit’s stats are a little off, those can be tweaked too.

There are to be no major rules changes at this point unless something is fundamentally broken. No rule wish-listing, suggestions for new units, discussions on army alignments etc. are now allowed! We need to stress test the army lists and get them as balanced as we can and for that we need people playing and reporting on games only. Any other discussions should be raised on the normal forums please (and will be moved there if put here) but are out of scope now for v2.

To that end all the existing threads are now closed. The only new threads that will be accepted are [BATREP] and [BUG] threads for the updated lists and rules. Battle reports should list the armies used, a brief description of the game (a paragraph or two; turn-by-turn not required unless you really want to), the outcome and then thoughts on points balance and unit effectiveness. A bug must be something you have found by playing games and seeing it in action. Any thread that is simply theorising will closed.

If we see consistent issues with the points value of a unit or a unit under-performing or not fulfilling its role correctly, we will make an adjustment and let you know in this thread. The spreadsheet to the army lists will be a living document in that regard and we will make it clear if we change something.

In addition, we (the RC) will start special threads [PLAYTEST] if there is some aspect of the rules or a unit or army which we need people to focus on and help resolve. We hope these will be rare.

Forum post: https://manticforum.com/forum/kings-of-war/kings-of-war-2-beta/222648-beta-phase-2-please-read-this-before-posting

Link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nhZLDFOHUXC2MCA6NwYQWr0HF2mSyvEWIlNH4oCtBeQ/edit#gid=2111976336

**judgedoug**

I am so far liking and agreeing with every change I see

**highlord tamburlaine**

Seems Mr. Renton can't even wait for his staff to update the KS page before he's already off sharing stuff.

Hopefully the actual update should follow soon. Now if only I could actually listen to what he's saying before I start work (no speakers here)...

**Nostromodamus**

Actual update is out.

Bloody brilliant surprise

**timetowaste85**

And that dragon looks amaze-balls.

**Theophony**

Just tried AGAIN to make a pledge. Once again the red frowns face says NO! Almost Mantic, Almost

**Azazelx**

DKH PM reopened for another week... at the same time their other KS ends. That's SO very Mantic.

**adamsouza**

They promised me about 3 times during the KoW2 Kickstarter that they would add me onto the Dungeon Saga Pledgemanager, having missed that campaign. I've since given up, and decided it was better to save the money.

**Azazelx**

Daedleh wrote:
Updated army lists have been released by the committee:
Link to the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nhZLDFOHUXC2MCA6NwYQWr0HF2mSyvEWIlNH4oCtBeQ/edit#gid=2111976336

Is this a real, official new set of army lists? With all of that stuff that Alessio removed added back in with more besides? Wraiths, Militia, Berserkers, Ballistae!

At a glance, I'm liking almost everything that I see, excepting chariot units being 3/6 instead of 2/4/6 - purely on model practicality grounds.

Well done, RC!