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Ouch that terrain looks pricy when you add up what comes in the box!

 roddie wrote:
The new terrain kits are showing on the NZ site under Pre-orders (released next Saturday).

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/New-Exclusive?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=2510756053+3129408095&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=catnewexclusive

Oh that's wired. They were not their a moment ago when I made that post.


O.O

It would be so much better if you could get the walkways on their own.

Ragweek wrote:
Ouch that terrain looks pricy when you add up what comes in the box!

NZ prices. The big set looks like it will be between the prices of a land raider and start collecting box.

Vorian wrote:
It would be so much better if you could get the walkways on their own.

Couldn't agree more.

since someone was asking earlier: finally got a dispatch email from GW UK, 0923

 Bull0 wrote:
since someone was asking earlier: finally got a dispatch email from GW UK, 0923

Did you get it sent to the shop or to your home? Last time I preordered something I got it delivered to my home only to find this means they don't even dispatch it until the following Monday (GW struggling with the concept of PREordering obviously). This time I had it sent to the store to ensure I would get it today but only just received the dispatch notice this morning so not sure if that means it will actually be there...!

 roddie wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
since someone was asking earlier: finally got a dispatch email from GW UK, 0923

Did you get it sent to the shop or to your home? Last time I preordered something I got it delivered to my home only to find this means they don't even dispatch it until the following Monday (GW struggling with the concept of PREordering obviously). This time I had it sent to the store to ensure I would get it today but only just received the dispatch notice this morning so not sure if that means it will actually be there...!

Preorders from GW get dispatched on the Saturday, no matter where you get it delivered to, afaik. Part of the reason I never preorder anything directly.

yup. In this case I went to GW because it looked dodgy at discounters, normally I'd go to an independent

 ImAGeek wrote:

 roddie wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:
since someone was asking earlier: finally got a dispatch email from GW UK, 0923

Did you get it sent to the shop or to your home? Last time I preordered something I got it delivered to my home only to find this means they don't even dispatch it until the following Monday (GW struggling with the concept of PREordering obviously). This time I had it sent to the store to ensure I would get it today but only just received the dispatch notice this morning so not sure if that means it will actually be there...!

Preorders from GW get dispatched on the Saturday, no matter where you get it delivered to, afaik. Part of the reason I never preorder anything directly.

I had the first new-format WD pre-ordered and it arrived at the store by the release date. Also, from their website:

"Pre-ordering guarantees that you’ll be among the first to get your hands on the hottest new books and miniatures. If you order at any point on the pre-order weekend, and choose to have your products delivered to your nearest Games Workshop Store, then they will be ready and waiting for you on the day of launch, the following Saturday."

For those hoping to pick up a copy from Epsom, Sutton or Kingston. They have all sold out.

 JohnnyHell wrote:

 RexHavoc wrote:
My local posted up this evening that they have a LIMITED QUANTITY (caps and all) and if we wanted one we would need to be there at opening.

As he's usually quite up front about how much stock is there on a normal occasion, I take this to not be a good sign. Usually its 'I only have 10 of the new whatever shiney' or' We have the last three sat here, get them while stocks last'.

As its €60 in travel to get there, and I may not even be able to get a copy, I'm thinking its not worth the risk. Gw probably dont care about the €105 I would have spent on the game, nor the extra €100-200 I probably would have spent on top of that buying up stuff to go with it. Nor the extra €8 I'd spent buying white dwarf (as I always forget, and have to go back for it after paying the first time around)
But not picking white dwarf up this month means I probably wont end up pre-ordering the new overlords (I was looking forward to seeing them in white dwarf and seeing if I could use them for my skaven in Inq28 or even my chaos dwarfs)

All in all not being able to walk in and pick a game up has probably put paid to me spending €500, if not closer to €1000 (birthday money coming soon) over the next couple of months.

Again, probably pocket change for GW, but I cant be the only one, and it will have a knock on effect with my spending for the rest of the year now, and its surly even only several people are like me its got to add up to enough for GW to notice.

This strikes me as somewhat of an overreaction. "I couldn't get one game so I won't buy all these things for a totally unconnected game." Yeah, that just doesn't follow.

Not really on overreaction. This isn't a 'I couldn't buy one thing so I refuse to buy another, that'll teach them'.

I dont really need the new overlord models. However, they do look pretty cool, and I could be tempted in to buying them, sitting down with white dwarf and having a good look at them can often lead to buying things I had no other plans of buying. Its not totally unrelated either- as I said in my post I'd thought about using them for my Inq28 skaven. Not going to GW this weekend means I wont be buying white dwarf, and I wont be 'lead' into buying new models I dont really need. Sure, I might see them online once they are out and about in the public, but by then I will probably have some other project on the go, and I just wont bother with them at all.

But even with an unconnected game, but not being able to get me into the store this weekend, will probably lost them a sale of an AoS box as well, as even though they are unconnected, I tend to pick a box or two up of other things when going in to GW, to add to the rainy day pile. I dont always plan for what these things are, and sometimes they are just a random model that takes my fancy on the day. I cant be the only person who buys spur of the moment stuff!

And its not a case of just me just buying all these odd 'unconnected' things another day. If I never went into GW again, I'd still have a lifetime of minis for AoS to paint and use, as I'm such a slow painter, and tend to paint warbands, that a box of minis can last me years before its used up. Buying in to GW new 'exciting' product of the week is what keeps me going in there right now, and what has me buying the slightly older stuff as well.

No, for sure not the only one, but "I couldn't spend €100 so you don't get my €1000, GW!" is a fairy hollow cry, if you're into the hobby. We all know you'll overspend again another day. We all do!

I managed to get to my local gw this morning before they opened, only to be told all their copies of sw armageddon had already gone.

 JohnnyHell wrote:
No, for sure not the only one, but "I couldn't spend €100 so you don't get my €1000, GW!" is a fairy hollow cry, if you're into the hobby. We all know you'll overspend again another day. We all do!

For me, I'm in the hobby but not playing any GW games (and haven't since Necru). This was the first GW game since then that I was really tempted to pick up and I tend to go a bit overboard with games so would have ended up with at least a couple more factions (looking at cultists, grey knights and those imperial tech guys) and a ton of extra terrain. With the lack of boxed copies of the game it has stopped it from being a spontaneous purchase as I would now need to wait for a physical rule book reprint (don't have a pad and my PC is at other end of house to gaming space), but multiple troop boxes to match get the box set troops, track down dice and templates and spend a lot more on terrain. That's too much hassle to tempt me in now compared to that single easy to grab box.

I got down to my local GW for opening and managed to get the only copy they had on general sale.

For me the terrain is worth the price alone.

I was suprised that all the store copies had been spoken for, I've tried to reserve things before when they've sold out on the Webster and always been told no. It's nice to think you'd at least have some sort of chance if you head down to a store for opening tome on release day

are those three

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sector-Mechanicum-Galvanic-Magnavent
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sector-Mechanicum-Ferratonic-Furnace
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sector-Mechanicum-Alchomite-Stack
exactly what is inside the box of Shadow Wars? Because all together it cost 105 pounds, when the Shadow Wars box was 80 punds with 49 pounds worth minis...
Just received an email yesterday from wayland games saying they declined my order (as was most likely)...
Pretty upset with the whole thing.

 reluxor wrote:
are those three

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sector-Mechanicum-Galvanic-Magnavent
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sector-Mechanicum-Ferratonic-Furnace
https://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Sector-Mechanicum-Alchomite-Stack
exactly what is inside the box of Shadow Wars? Because all together it cost 105 pounds, when the Shadow Wars box was 80 punds with 49 pounds worth minis...
Just received an email yesterday from wayland games saying they declined my order (as was most likely)...
Pretty upset with the whole thing.

It has all the terrain in the sets

I get the feeling that GW wanted to sell out of the SW box quickly.

The discount was very good compared to buying the contents separately, and the artificial scarcity drums up interest for the individual terrain pieces.

Personally the way that they have handled this release has disappointed me greatly.

 Inquisitor Kallus wrote:
It has all the terrain in the sets

Boxed set comes with one of each sprue. If you buy the kits separately, you get one of each sprue plus one duplicate sprue of chimneys.

My local asked me if I wanted a copy when I popped in last night. But I don't need the terrain, game doesn't have rules for my army, and he only got like two copies in. I told him I didn't have much use for it; save it for someone who wanted it more. Maybe if a copy is still around in a week I'll pick it up. Maybe.

Agree with sentiment here. I am disappointed with how the release was handled.

It sold out immediately, which is something they cannot control. Their response has been tepid at best and bait-and-switch at worst (here's individual pieces at premium prices and we will release the rules sometime in the future, but no boxed set).

My gaming group was interested. None of us could get it. Will that curtail us buying the future? For many, maybe all, yes.

Does GW care? Is it already popular enough?

I imagine a lot of people are going to keep their box set unopened and sell it on ebay at an inflated price.

GW's behaviour is just fuelling the second hand market.

Because their is no ebook yet, maybe this was intended
limited box so that people are desperate and buy the more expensive single terrain boxes
and no ebook because if there would be one it would be easy to put it on the web and people would just download it instead of craving for their later re-printed version

Sheck2 wrote:
Agree with sentiment here. I am disappointed with how the release was handled.

It sold out immediately, which is something they cannot control. Their response has been tepid at best and bait-and-switch at worst (here's individual pieces at premium prices and we will release the rules sometime in the future, but no boxed set).

My gaming group was interested. None of us could get it. Will that curtail us buying the future? For many, maybe all, yes.

Does GW care? Is it already popular enough?

The individual terrain was going to come out anyway, that's not really bait and switch.

They massively underestimated the demand and got it wrong. There is no need for any conspiracy theories that make no sense.

Vorian wrote:

NoggintheNog wrote:
They will be on ebay for £200 next saturday if GW do not announce a future restock beforehand.

It's a box of separately available terrain, old scouts, basic orks and a rulebook that's pretty much a copy of an old and freely available rulebook

Don't be ridiculous.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GAMES-WORKSHOP-WARHAMMER-40K-SHADOW-WAR-ARMAGEDDON-SEALED-PLUS-STORE-EXTRAS-/282425980216?hash=item41c1e67538:g:8iYAAOSwB-1Y6Muw

Pardon?

So the game seems to be set several years after the 3rd war for Armageddon, with kill teams being sent into Hive Archeron, which is currently under siege by imperial forces trying to take the hive back. Wouldn't this put it in the 42nd Millennium?

Vorian wrote:
They massively underestimated the demand and got it wrong. There is no need for any conspiracy theories that make no sense.

I don't think it's a case of "underestimating"... I don't think they made an estimate at all. I think they said we're only making "X" amount of kits without any regard to potential demand. They clearly aren't in any sort of mindset to "sell as many as we can." They need to do market research.

 stonehorse wrote:
I imagine a lot of people are going to keep their box set unopened and sell it on ebay at an inflated price.

If GW releases rulebook separately, the boxed set will not sell at inflated price unless someone wants to pay premium for cardboard tokens and red templates.

I picked up a set from FLGS today and have two more coming in mail next week. Plan for weekend: drown myself in plastic scenery with AoS GT Heat 2 on Twitch on the background. Possibly D6 beers as well.

You mean D6+6 beers?