Games Workshop - Shadow War Armageddon-cranes and new terrain pg 135

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**Inquisitor Kallus**

insaniak wrote:
Elbows wrote:

I shoot a bolt gun at you - you have a displacer field (4+ invulnerable save, which scatters you if it works)...you roll the displacer roll first. If you fail this you still have your armour (if you had any) which suffers from normal save modifiers.

Displacer Field was a 3+. Conversion Field was the 4+.

For even more fun, to begin with you could actually put multiple invulnerable saves on a single model, limited only by how many Wargear cards the model had access to. So against that boltgun shot, I could be taking a 2+ Power Field save, then trying with my 3+ Displacer Field, then my 4+ Conversion Field... and then my armour.

About midway through 2nd edition, GW issued an errata limiting invulnerable saves to one per model... upsetting quite a few Eldar players, as Farseers had one built in, and many players gave them an extra one for good measure. IIRC, that was around the same time they also limited how many copies you could take of certain Wargear cards in your army.

They stopped the multi layered inv saves in second ed in WD. I used to take a Farseer with displacer field, gave him a lot more survivability, though he dio die a few times. You also cant layer fields in the DH roleplays etc.

**insaniak**

Inquisitor Kallus wrote:

They stopped the multi layered inv saves in second ed in WD. .

Yes, I mentioned that in the post you just quoted...

**JohnnyHell**

RexHavoc wrote:
My local posted up this evening that they have a LIMITED QUANTITY (caps and all) and if we wanted one we would need to be there at opening.

As he's usually quite up front about how much stock is there on a normal occasion, I take this to not be a good sign. Usually its 'I only have 10 of the new whatever shiney' or' We have the last three sat here, get them while stocks last'.

As its €60 in travel to get there, and I may not even be able to get a copy, I'm thinking its not worth the risk. Gw probably dont care about the €105 I would have spent on the game, nor the extra €100-200 I probably would have spent on top of that buying up stuff to go with it. Nor the extra €8 I'd spent buying white dwarf (as I always forget, and have to go back for it after paying the first time around)
But not picking white dwarf up this month means I probably wont end up pre-ordering the new overlords (I was looking forward to seeing them in white dwarf and seeing if I could use them for my skaven in Inq28 or even my chaos dwarfs)

All in all not being able to walk in and pick a game up has probably put paid to me spending €500, if not closer to €1000 (birthday money coming soon) over the next couple of months.

Again, probably pocket change for GW, but I cant be the only one, and it will have a knock on effect with my spending for the rest of the year now, and its surly even only several people are like me its got to add up to enough for GW to notice.

This strikes me as somewhat of an overreaction. "I couldn't get one game so I won't buy all these things for a totally unconnected game." Yeah, that just doesn't follow.

**Manchu**

Maybe it is an overreaction but it is also quite understandable that the snafu related to the introductory box would at least temporarily sour people's perception of Shadow War generally.

Printing a physical rulebook would probably go a long way to fixing that.

Local WH store manager confirmed to me that the digital edition will be out next weekend.

**MLaw**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
BrookM wrote:
The rulebook included in the boxed set does not contain a barcode on the back (or inside the cover for that matter), so chances of GW selling it in this carnation physically on its own are quite small.

OMG! No barcode! Whatever will GW do?

Spoiler:

I used to be subscribed to an illustration monthly magazine from the UK.. the special "Subscriber Only" issue had no barcode. All they have to do is put it in a polybag that has a UPC or those sticker labels like you've shown.. I really don't understand how some people are so quick to rush to ideas that this or that is impossible. If there's a buck to be made, nothing is impossible.

**H.B.M.C.**

Well... here goes nothing...

[EDIT]: Success!

Did you know the City store in Sydney, the largest GW store in Australia's largest city, had an allocation of 5 whole boxes. That's right. Five.

What a bungled release...

**Cleatus**

If you really want one, the Warhammer store in Des Moines, Iowa has 12.

**NobodyXY**

A couple more battle reports on youtube.

GMG

Spoiler:

Miniwargaming

Spoiler:

Seems like both channels have more coverage planned.

EDIT:

Meeplemart has 20 or so left as of their last spreadsheet. Started with more than 30!

**Red_Ink_Cat**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Did you know the City store in Sydney, the largest GW store in Australia's largest city, had an allocation of 5 whole boxes. That's right. Five.

Cleatus wrote:
If you really want one, the Warhammer store in Des Moines, Iowa has 12.

Seriously... what the

GW?

**Talizvar**

Some 50 in southern Ontario Canada.
Getting my reserved box tomorrow.

**Jackal**

Had 20 in Portsmouth store.
Lasted around 5 mins lol.

**brettness37**

Has anyone posted the generic list building rules? I know it's 1000 points, but how many Troops/Recruits/Specialists etc.

I want to start building tonight, getting the rules tomorrow.

**str00dles1**

Did they spoil the list of terrain set costs that are coming out next week?

**brettness37**

str00dles1 wrote:
Did they spoil the list of terrain set costs that are coming out next week?

They are in the current White Dwarf, $60/$60/$90 in Canada, I think $50/$50/$75 US.

**Professor_Plum**

xttz wrote:
dan2026 wrote:
Breotan wrote:
RazorEdge wrote:
Over the next few weeks, the Warhammer Community team will be attending several events around the world, and we’ll be showing off some of the incredible new releases coming in the next few months, as well as a few projects the studios have been working on.

My, how things have changed since Kirby left.

He was the previous CO right?

All I hear about the guy he sounded like a fething nutjob.

There was a time not too long ago when GW staff / reps would have to flat out deny upcoming releases due that weekend, despite photos being posted online several weeks in advance. The change of priorities has been astounding... a games company that actually has fun with their customers, rather than treating their products like military secrets. Who'da thought that would work?

I always wondered why they thought hiding releases was a good idea. Like, do they think it draws hype?

Another issue I have is that pre-orders go up for every region before America, but it seems like they don't allot a real amount of units to provide for us. Plus, they consistently seem to under-produce all of the products that should be OBVIOUSLY popular.

**H.B.M.C.**

For those of you who were having a gak-fit about it the other day, the 3D pics are up now.

Honestly the real star of these three is the Galvanic Magnavent. The Alchomite Stack has some options but really the other two can't work without the Magnavent.

**Professor_Plum**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
For those of you who were having a gak-fit about it the other day, the 3D pics are up now.

Honestly the real star of these three is the Galvanic Magnavent. The Alchomite Stack has some options but really the other two can't work without the Magnavent.

Jesus that terrain is overpriced. You could order a full set to cover a 6+square foot board for about the same as the three pieces.

**H.B.M.C.**

You know those are links to the Oz site, right, not the US one?

**Professor_Plum**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
You know those are links to the Oz site, right, not the US one?

Didn't before, still expect it to be as bad.

**casvalremdeikun**

So, from the looks of it, Shadow War Armageddon does not come with the complete Galvanic Magnavent kit. That kit include one sprue from the Stacks kit, but the boxed set only appears to contain one copy of that sprue. Oh well, I might get a separate copy of the Stacks kit for more terrain.

**H.B.M.C.**

I think it comes with one of every sprue. I have it in a box next to me, but I'm at work so I can't check right now.

**str00dles1**

the box set comes with everything you could make that's they are selling in single sets. It just better to buy the box set over and over if you want terrain, or split it with someone who just wants rules and models

**H.B.M.C.**

I got one of those rubber wristbands as well. It's really thick.

**kingbobbito**

Got my hands on a copy from one of my local stores tonight (yes, selling before embargo). The main store I go to already had all theirs pre-ordered, so went to the one I don't like and bought one that he was upcharging $30 more. While I was pretty ticked, wasn't a huge issue as within 3 hours I've sold everything but the rulebook, tokens, and standard scouts (all I wanted from the set) for over $200 to people I know, so made a reasonable profit.

**ImAGeek**

Jackal wrote:
Had 20 in Portsmouth store.
Lasted around 5 mins lol.

How, when they don't open/it's not released for 3 hours and 20 minutes?

Glad I wasn't planning on going there this morning to get it!

**richstrach**

Well, good luck everyone who's going to try and get a copy this morning! Here's hoping the digital version of the rulebook is released this weekend too.

**AduroT**

Cleatus wrote:
If you really want one, the Warhammer store in Des Moines, Iowa has 12.

Mayhem in Des Moines got six in as well, though all six are reserved. No idea how many Jay's or Arkham managed to get.

**Ragweek**

I was lucky enough to secure one from goblin games. However just had a email to say it is in the post. When I checked the tracking I said it could take 3 working days.

Hopefully it is a mistake and it comes today.

**Lockark**

on the New Zeland Website, it looks like the next pre-orders are for Made to order on OOP blood bowl teams. Abit disappointed, I was hoping they would be releasing the stand alone terrain kits hot on the heels of the new box set.

**roddie**

The new terrain kits are showing on the NZ site under Pre-orders (released next Saturday).

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/New-Exclusive?Nu=product.repositoryId&N=2510756053+3129408095&qty=12&sorting=rec&view=table&categoryId=catnewexclusive