Necron rumor & pics summary in 1st post (now with 2nd wave pics!)

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**Anpu-adom**

Aldaris wrote:Some more news!

Bram Gaunt on Warseer strikes again:

[Ghost Ark]... makes the Warrior Unit it is joined to Ever-living.
I got my hands on a WD too. To clear a few things...
Quantum Shielding - Quantum Shielding provides a +2 bonus to AV in Front and Flank of the Vehicle until it suffers a PENETRATING Hit. Glancing will not do the trick.
The weapons on the flanks of the Ghostbark/Doomsday Ark are basically 5 Gauss Flayers that may fire on different targets.
Tesla - Tesla Weapons deal 2 additional hits for each 6 to hit that was rolled.
Staves of the Covenant ARE Power weapons.
Warscythes still add 2D6 to armourpenetration, which is pretty neat with S7.

The Command Barge enables the Lord to attack a unit it flew over, even if it moved flat-out. The lord may deal 3 strikes, which hit on 4+ (3+ if the vehicle moed less 12" or less). Each Wound roll of 6 may be allocated by the Necron Player. All aditional effects of the Lords weapon DO apply. Vehicles are always hit in the rear.

That changes quite a lot if true.

Just like to point out that Yak said that Ever-Living is an IC special rule, and doesn't work for units.

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Woot! 1st 100 page!!!!

**tetrisphreak**

Warriors vs immortals will likely be the same scenario as blood claws vs grey hunters. One choice is obviously better. The points cost difference will be somewhat of a deciding factor, but I'll bet Tesla carbines add points per model rather than being a free swap.

**Aldaris**

We'll see. The "Quantum shielding only removed on penetrating hit" bit alone is quite a huge deal if true.

Man, I really need this book now.

**Mewiththeface**

Hmm, they decided to not use a new lord model on that preview image. I wonder why.

**StringBassKnight**

Aldaris wrote:Man, I really need this book now.

Don't we all...

**azazel the cat**

Aldaris wrote:Some more news!

Bram Gaunt on Warseer strikes again:

[Ghost Ark]... makes the Warrior Unit it is joined to Ever-living.
I got my hands on a WD too. To clear a few things...
Quantum Shielding - Quantum Shielding provides a +2 bonus to AV in Front and Flank of the Vehicle until it suffers a PENETRATING Hit. Glancing will not do the trick.
The weapons on the flanks of the Ghostbark/Doomsday Ark are basically 5 Gauss Flayers that may fire on different targets.
Tesla - Tesla Weapons deal 2 additional hits for each 6 to hit that was rolled.
Staves of the Covenant ARE Power weapons.
Warscythes still add 2D6 to armourpenetration, which is pretty neat with S7.

The Command Barge enables the Lord to attack a unit it flew over, even if it moved flat-out. The lord may deal 3 strikes, which hit on 4+ (3+ if the vehicle moed less 12" or less). Each Wound roll of 6 may be allocated by the Necron Player. All aditional effects of the Lords weapon DO apply. Vehicles are always hit in the rear.

I wonder, will this count as shooty weapon, or CC weapon? CC weapons as delivered from a command barge would create some interesting options.

**123birds**

So who else thinks that 2 squads of 3-5 court with solar pulse and lance things will be the norm. Solar pulses allow you to go second, and therefore position your doomsday arcs with no chance of retaliatory fire. You then have turn 1 and 2 of virtually no damage, as nightfighting messes up things that can kill your vehicles (Missles, dakka dreds, all devs/fangs, most 36" range guns, etc.) You also have 6 sources of anti tank. Thoughts?

**chaos0xomega**

I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure things like the solar pulse, etc. are limited to one per army.

**Vhalyar**

chaos0xomega wrote:I'm not sure, but I'm pretty sure things like the solar pulse, etc. are limited to one per army.

Two. One per Royal Court.

**Cryage**

Ascalam wrote:Probably huge squads of infantry, like WHFB..

Nids and orks get a boost they could use then..

I'd honestly have no issues with this oddly enough...

**neiltj1**

123birds wrote:So who else thinks that 2 squads of 3-5 court with solar pulse and lance things will be the norm. Solar pulses allow you to go second, and therefore position your doomsday arcs with no chance of retaliatory fire. You then have turn 1 and 2 of virtually no damage, as nightfighting messes up things that can kill your vehicles (Missles, dakka dreds, all devs/fangs, most 36" range guns, etc.) You also have 6 sources of anti tank. Thoughts?

I have been talking with some local guys and depending on cost, two solar pulses will be auto include. Have to wait till the book comes out to be sure, but 2 turns of night fight for your opponent may be up there with psy-dreads for the level of awesome.

**ChiliPowderKeg**

Anpu-adom wrote:Woot! 1st 100 page!!!!

At least I can make a post on the 100'th page

Also, I didn't notice the green sticks at first. My attention is more diverted to the flying light-blue NecRow Boat

**LunaHound**

Wow people love Necrons THIS MUCH!

**ChiliPowderKeg**

LunaHound wrote:Wow people love Necrons THIS MUCH!

Not so much Crons in general but I do like those 5 dollar foot longs they can process.

**FalkorsRaiders**

As of now, without calculating points, my list will look like this:

HQ:
Stormlord
Cheapest possible lord
Two squads of cryptek with lance things and solar pulse

Troops:
3x 10 warrior squads all in/with ghosts

Fast Attack:
1x 10 scarabs
2x 6 wraiths

Heavy Support:
1x monolith
1x doomsday
1x 3 spyders

Quick question, do spyders creating scarabs allow the squad to go over max size? if so, you could take 9 and in one turn, you get 10 scarabs to 19, the next turn means 28. If you go first, that means by the time the enemy can shoot them (guessing that night fight lifted by turn 3), ideally, you will be able to have a 37 scarab squad, multi-assaulting half the board.

**Ouze**

LunaHound wrote:Wow people love Necrons THIS MUCH!

Necrons got me into 40k. After playing Dark Crusade, I wound up getting a single immortal, and then got AOBR so I could figure out how to use it, then more necrons.

**Kroothawk**

The army shot is from the back page of the upcoming WD (featuring the army that Robin is playing in the battle report).
The WD includes the full rules of the command barge and the annihilator barge as a teaser, to comply with the new "rules in every WD" policy.
Also some nice pics.

BTW the battle report has Mat Ward and Robin Cruddace as Necrons and "designer team" fight against Andrew Kendrick (as Space Marines led by Sicarius -> Fall of Damnos) and Simon Grant as Eldar (both as "WD team" ). Nice small fluff around the match. The end result:

Spoiler:

**LunaHound**

Ouze wrote:
LunaHound wrote:Wow people love Necrons THIS MUCH!

Necrons got me into 40k. After playing Dark Crusade, I wound up getting a single immortal, and then got AOBR so I could figure out how to use it, then more necrons.

I was shocked when Dark Eldar's update generated tons of interest. ( well THAT much i mean )
But had no idea Necrons are so popular too

Puts Warhammer Fantasy releases to shame lol

**Ostrakon**

Anpu-adom wrote:
Aldaris wrote:Some more news!

Bram Gaunt on Warseer strikes again:

[Ghost Ark]... makes the Warrior Unit it is joined to Ever-living.
I got my hands on a WD too. To clear a few things...
Quantum Shielding - Quantum Shielding provides a +2 bonus to AV in Front and Flank of the Vehicle until it suffers a PENETRATING Hit. Glancing will not do the trick.
The weapons on the flanks of the Ghostbark/Doomsday Ark are basically 5 Gauss Flayers that may fire on different targets.
Tesla - Tesla Weapons deal 2 additional hits for each 6 to hit that was rolled.
Staves of the Covenant ARE Power weapons.
Warscythes still add 2D6 to armourpenetration, which is pretty neat with S7.

The Command Barge enables the Lord to attack a unit it flew over, even if it moved flat-out. The lord may deal 3 strikes, which hit on 4+ (3+ if the vehicle moed less 12" or less). Each Wound roll of 6 may be allocated by the Necron Player. All aditional effects of the Lords weapon DO apply. Vehicles are always hit in the rear.

That changes quite a lot if true.

If the bolded turns out to be true then I will seriously have to revise my opinion regarding the point cost of the ark.

Command barge with a scythe lord could turn out to be a hilarious way to take out vehicles.

**Balor**

Ouze wrote:
LunaHound wrote:Wow people love Necrons THIS MUCH!

Necrons got me into 40k. After playing Dark Crusade, I wound up getting a single immortal, and then got AOBR so I could figure out how to use it, then more necrons.

Necrons also got me into 40k years ago and now I'm ready for a new book.

**Ostrakon**

Kroothawk wrote:The army shot is from the back page of the upcoming WD (featuring the army that Robin is playing in the battle report).
The WD includes the full rules of the command barge and the annihilator barge as a teaser, to comply with the new "rules in every WD" policy.
Also some nice pics.

BTW the battle report has Mat Ward and Robin Cruddace as Necrons and "designer team" fight against Andrew Kendrick (as Space Marines led by Sicarius -> Fall of Damnos) and Simon Grant as Eldar (both as "WD team" ). Nice small fluff around the match. The end result:

Spoiler:

Necrons lose because of one dice roll at the end.

Ha! That's way better than my games with current 'crons usually end!

**LunaHound**

Balor wrote:
Ouze wrote:
LunaHound wrote:Wow people love Necrons THIS MUCH!

Necrons got me into 40k. After playing Dark Crusade, I wound up getting a single immortal, and then got AOBR so I could figure out how to use it, then more necrons.

Necrons also got me into 40k years ago and now I'm ready for a new book.

1 generation passed by, now you are ready for some grand children Necrons

**Kroothawk**

Ostrakon wrote:If the bolded turns out to be true then I will seriously have to revise my opinion regarding the point cost of the ark.

The WD indeed confirms the bold parts of the quote.

BTW the Necron Warriors of the Ghost Ark feature battle damage (and a scarab repairing them), so these can be used for mixing with normal warriors.

**Trozen**

Ostrakon wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:
Aldaris wrote:Some more news!

Bram Gaunt on Warseer strikes again:

[Ghost Ark]... makes the Warrior Unit it is joined to Ever-living.
I got my hands on a WD too. To clear a few things...
Quantum Shielding - Quantum Shielding provides a +2 bonus to AV in Front and Flank of the Vehicle until it suffers a PENETRATING Hit. Glancing will not do the trick.
The weapons on the flanks of the Ghostbark/Doomsday Ark are basically 5 Gauss Flayers that may fire on different targets.
Tesla - Tesla Weapons deal 2 additional hits for each 6 to hit that was rolled.
Staves of the Covenant ARE Power weapons.
Warscythes still add 2D6 to armourpenetration, which is pretty neat with S7.

The Command Barge enables the Lord to attack a unit it flew over, even if it moved flat-out. The lord may deal 3 strikes, which hit on 4+ (3+ if the vehicle moed less 12" or less). Each Wound roll of 6 may be allocated by the Necron Player. All aditional effects of the Lords weapon DO apply. Vehicles are always hit in the rear.

That changes quite a lot if true.

If the bolded turns out to be true then I will seriously have to revise my opinion regarding the point cost of the ark.

Command barge with a scythe lord could turn out to be a hilarious way to take out vehicles.

The scythe is no doubt good, but you could also use the weapon with entropy and rending (cheaper?) to drop a vehicle's armor in the movement phase before you shoot.

**Ostrakon**

Kroothawk wrote:
Ostrakon wrote:If the bolded turns out to be true then I will seriously have to revise my opinion regarding the point cost of the ark.

The WD indeed confirms the bold parts of the quote.

BTW the Necron Warriors of the Ghost Ark feature battle damage (and a scarab repairing them), so these can be used for mixing with normal warriors.

I went from "not sure if I'm going to run these" to "I'm going to pre-order three of them".

GG, GW.

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Trozen wrote:
Ostrakon wrote:
Anpu-adom wrote:
Aldaris wrote:Some more news!

Bram Gaunt on Warseer strikes again:

[Ghost Ark]... makes the Warrior Unit it is joined to Ever-living.
I got my hands on a WD too. To clear a few things...
Quantum Shielding - Quantum Shielding provides a +2 bonus to AV in Front and Flank of the Vehicle until it suffers a PENETRATING Hit. Glancing will not do the trick.
The weapons on the flanks of the Ghostbark/Doomsday Ark are basically 5 Gauss Flayers that may fire on different targets.
Tesla - Tesla Weapons deal 2 additional hits for each 6 to hit that was rolled.
Staves of the Covenant ARE Power weapons.
Warscythes still add 2D6 to armourpenetration, which is pretty neat with S7.

The Command Barge enables the Lord to attack a unit it flew over, even if it moved flat-out. The lord may deal 3 strikes, which hit on 4+ (3+ if the vehicle moed less 12" or less). Each Wound roll of 6 may be allocated by the Necron Player. All aditional effects of the Lords weapon DO apply. Vehicles are always hit in the rear.

That changes quite a lot if true.

If the bolded turns out to be true then I will seriously have to revise my opinion regarding the point cost of the ark.

Command barge with a scythe lord could turn out to be a hilarious way to take out vehicles.

The scythe is no doubt good, but you could also use the weapon with entropy and rending (cheaper?) to drop a vehicle's armor in the movement phase before you shoot.

Nice. You'd only expect to lower it a point or 2, but for a lot of vehicles that turns flayer glances into penetrates.

EDIT: but then again, with the warscythe you'd expect 2ish penetrates straight up on most vehicles, which would probably be preferable.

**zacharia**

I have been talking with some local guys and depending on cost, two solar pulses will be auto include. Have to wait till the book comes out to be sure, but 2 turns of night fight for your opponent may be up there with psy-dreads for the level of awesome.

Is anyone else worried that due to the night fighting forced on your opponent and you free from it being so powerfull we are going to see almost every necron list with storm lord and 2x solar pulse using crypteks now?

**Ostrakon**

zacharia wrote:
I have been talking with some local guys and depending on cost, two solar pulses will be auto include. Have to wait till the book comes out to be sure, but 2 turns of night fight for your opponent may be up there with psy-dreads for the level of awesome.

Is anyone else worried that due to the night fighting forced on your opponent and you free from it being so powerfull we are going to see almost every necron list with storm lord and 2x solar pulse using crypteks now?

Doubtful. You'd need to buy Imotek, another lord, and two of those crypteks with solar pulse. That probably amounts to a solid 500 points before you even add the muscle necessary to make that work.

**haroon**

Ostrakon wrote:
zacharia wrote:
I have been talking with some local guys and depending on cost, two solar pulses will be auto include. Have to wait till the book comes out to be sure, but 2 turns of night fight for your opponent may be up there with psy-dreads for the level of awesome.

Is anyone else worried that due to the night fighting forced on your opponent and you free from it being so powerfull we are going to see almost every necron list with storm lord and 2x solar pulse using crypteks now?

Doubtful. You'd need to buy Imotek, another lord, and two of those crypteks with solar pulse. That probably amounts to a solid 500 points before you even add the muscle necessary to make that work.

Also if your playing against a CC army like nids, I am sure they would love for you to make it night fight. The reason they gave it to necrons is because they are a shooting army, you often don't want to make it night fight.

**omerakk**

Also if your playing against a CC army like nids, I am sure they would love for you to make it night fight. The reason they gave it to necrons is because they are a shooting army, you often don't want to make it night fight.

Your solar pulses would still allow you to shoot on your turn, while pounding nid units with lightning each turn its night fight and messing with hive guard range. Even against cc armies, it's not useless

**zacharia**

Also if your playing against a CC army like nids, I am sure they would love for you to make it night fight. The reason they gave it to necrons is because they are a shooting army, you often don't want to make it night fight.

Against a cc army no not a lot of use, but as for you not wanting it to be night fight, thats the point of the solar pulses. You turn it on for your opponent using the storm lord, and then in your turn you use the solar pulse to negate it. 1+ turns of night fightng for your opponent and no night fighting for you (since you use solar pulse on your first 2 turns to turn it off)

Just it does seem so powerful against shooty armies that are more numerous than cc ones, and most people here (not all but its by far the most common listed army build) are listing that combo as something they will use