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I recently started reading Batman, which is quite entertaining actually. Me and my brother needed a replacement for Spider-Man comics which got complety ed up by Quesada. DAMN YOU QUESADA AND YOUR HATE FOR CONTUNITY!!!

I am current enjoying Dan Abnets (Yes from the Black Library) and Andy Landins work on Nova and Guardians of the Galaxy.

Christos Gage and Dan Slott are some other good writer.

I concentrate more on story than writer although I have not started my awesome collection yet.

I think Robert Downing Jr said it best.


On a more serious note, I do prefer Marvel, had a strong affinity with Uncanny X-men for a long time (about 250- 365 ish) and the various other X-comics, big fan of the Avengers, Hulk and a few others.

Sadly due to various factors haven't picked up a comic in a few years so I'm relying on movies and cartoons to keep me entertained on the superhero front. Of which my current faves are Iron man film, Fanatastic Four (movies and cartoon) and the Hulk film.

I like Batman though, and Justice League to a lesser extent but I've not read a comic of either, just going from on the movies and cartoons.

Typeline wrote:

Evil Eli wrote:
But if judging by a Power Level then DC.

Marvel has the Sentry I believe. Of course there are like 7 guys in the marvel universe that have used that name. I think his real name is Robert Reynolds. He is on par, if not surpassing, the power of Superman. His hand is permanently stayed though due to psychological damage. He thinks he killed his wife or something to that effect I believe.

I read a lot of image. But if I had to choose between DC and Marvel. I'd go with Marvel.

Ditto, after all, how do you defeat a man with the power of a million exploding suns? (Whatever that means) Plus, Marvel has Spider-man and that's just a guaranteed win. Anyone else reading Spider-man? It's been awesome lately. The only titles of DC's I read are the Green Lantern books. Great stuff.

The last not-ultimate Spider-man I read was the first "brand new day" story. It's horrible. I know retconning is a common thing in comics, espcially in Spider-Man (Venon and Aunt May being the most obvious examples) but the "new status quo" is imo an outrage and a slap in the face of every reader. Why even bother with great writers like JMS when you're going to up the last 5 years of their work anyway.

Typeline wrote:
I like how marvel weaves real world events into their comics too. Marvel doesn't have a super hero who can just instantly stop 9/11, so they had a 9/11 issue and it was paved with tragedy and it was very good. .

That's not the one where Dr. Doom, was crying at Ground zero was it ? If so it was god awful.

Much prefer the DC stuff myself. The setting just makes more "sense" ( in as mucg as any superhero story can be said to amke sense)with regards to repercussions and I find the characters more archetypal. Morrisons stuff especially just drips with class, and I think thge mroe experimental stuff they release-- The Filth, The Invisibles, Sandman and Fables is amazingly good.

Marvel. Cosmic entities aside, there's also knowing that Marvel has pretty muc copied (ie ripped off) both the JLA and the Legion of SUper Heroes and made them Marvel supergroups. So Marvel would have the Marvel characters plus copies of most major DC characters.
Hyperion=Superman
Power Princess=Wonder Woman
And so on.
And then the Shi'ar Imperial Guard (forget the correct name, but the ones the X-men have fought on an occasion or two) are the Legion. IIRC Centurion=Superboy

Course, I haven't bought many comic for the last ten years so I could be using old info...................

DC? You have Superman (maybe, depends on version), Darkseid, and that's about it.

Marvel? Galactus. Celestials. 'Nuff Said.

Of course, then Judge Dredd comes along and nicks them all for breaking the Law....

But on the whole, I just enjoy Marvel a lot more. I know it's a matter of opinion, but they just seem to put out far more mature works.

JohnHwangDD wrote:DC? You have Superman (maybe, depends on version), Darkseid, and that's about it.

Marvel? Galactus. Celestials. 'Nuff Said.

The Spectre, him being the personification of gods wrath. Slew all of the Egyptian firstborn, he's a bad ass.

Shazam is pretty powerful, then there's the Guardians of Oa, the Endless are pretty powerful too of course.

I admit it's to taste but the mature comcis put out by DC urinate all over anything by marvel.

And they released WE3 which is all kind of groovy

And muchas Watchmen etc is hyped, I've yet to read anything better than Moore's run on Swamp Thing. Morrison's Doom Patrol perhaps cam close but, the way Moore folded so much stuff together is amazing.

Marvel. Cosmic entities aside, there's also knowing that Marvel has pretty muc copied (ie ripped off) both the JLA and the Legion of SUper Heroes and made them Marvel supergroups. So Marvel would have the Marvel characters plus copies of most major DC characters.
Hyperion=Superman
Power Princess=Wonder Woman
And so on.
And then the Shi'ar Imperial Guard (forget the correct name, but the ones the X-men have fought on an occasion or two) are the Legion. IIRC Centurion=Superboy

I think that goes in both directions.

reds8n wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:DC? You have Superman (maybe, depends on version), Darkseid, and that's about it.

Marvel? Galactus. Celestials. 'Nuff Said.

The Spectre, him being the personification of gods wrath. Slew all of the Egyptian firstborn, he's a bad ass.

Shazam is pretty powerful, then there's the Guardians of Oa, the Endless are pretty powerful too of course.

Are we talking about anything published by DC/Marvel, or are we talking about the DC / Marvel superhero universes?

Aren't the Guardians of Oa dead? Weren't they killed by Hal Jordan? Wimps.

Also, I don't think that Dream / Death are part of the normal DC universe...

Spectre is mainstream-- plays a big role in every "Crisis on/in/whatever".

Guardians were dead.. this is comics mate, they and the whole corp are back. There are now in fact several coloured corps, related to the emotional spectrum. Or something. Quick google round for "Sinestro corp wars" and " The blackest night" should sort you out. Or you'll weep, whatever.

The Endless/Sandman most certainly are part of the DC universe, integrally tied in many ways.... I just think they don't play with the guys and gals in tights much. Possible exception of Desire there but thi sis a PG 13 forum right ...?

Sandman was supposed to be tied to DC comics mainstream more tightly than it ends
up being. Gaiman and Vertigo realized they had something different and moved away
from seeing what superheroes dream about.

Indeed, and was generally the better for it.

You'll note the character still appears in the JLA and similar though.

there is no masturbation in the DC universe

@red, that ain't true.

Why else does Power Girl even exist?

, indeed.

I wonder what superman thinks ?

Supe's thinking it's a darn good thing that the turkey is blocking the camera, because he's clearly checking out the cleavage...

Not that I blame him!

Also, what's he doing with his left hand?
____

Oh, yeah - more Power Girl!

reds8n wrote:

JohnHwangDD wrote:DC? You have Superman (maybe, depends on version), Darkseid, and that's about it.

Marvel? Galactus. Celestials. 'Nuff Said.

The Spectre, him being the personification of gods wrath. Slew all of the Egyptian firstborn, he's a bad ass.

Shazam is pretty powerful, then there's the Guardians of Oa, the Endless are pretty powerful too of course.

I admit it's to taste but the mature comcis put out by DC urinate all over anything by marvel.

And they released WE3 which is all kind of groovy

And muchas Watchmen etc is hyped, I've yet to read anything better than Moore's run on Swamp Thing. Morrison's Doom Patrol perhaps cam close but, the way Moore folded so much stuff together is amazing.

They also have the antimonitor, monitors, monarch, superman prime, krona- he kickedmarvel during the JLA/Avengers, oans the survivors and splinter sects ie zamorans and controllers, shadow demons, lobo, The captain atom brigade, antim matter universe, 51 universes and hypertime to smash up marvel

Why'd you have to make it so hard... This one's a toughy, but Batman beats all. Take that, haters!

Oh please, stop with comparing power levels, there's no ing end to something like that.
Yes I know that Superman is strong, ergo there have to be a lot of other strong characters in one of the 51 DC universes, I get it, but this can go on and on. I could talk about all those powerfull super Marvel characters, like the Silver Surfer, Thanos, the Red Skull since he absorbed the cosmic cube, Doc Strange and stuff like that. The thing is, characters like those are ridicolous in both, Marvel and DC comics. Superheroes/villians who can alter reality are boring in 95% of all cases, and in the other 5% their used for stupid retconning, like Heroes Reborn or Brand ing Day.

My favorite comic charater is Batman but on the whole I think Marvel is the better publisher at the moment.

However, DC has the more iconic line up.

I'm really digging the new Thor run at the moment. That stuff is gold.

Of course Marvel is better because their franchise has more than 1 character.

Don't get me wrong, DC's Batman is awesome, but you can't build an entire comic book company that way.

Heck, just ask Todd McFarlane how his Spawn franchise is doing...

I think McFarlane is busy counting the money he makes with designing Killer-Santas and SM-Alice in Wonderland figures.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Of course, then Judge Dredd comes along and nicks them all for breaking the Law...

Yeah I’d rather have Dredd, Nemesis, Slaine or Rogue Trooper over marvel or DC but even they pale compared to the awesomeness of Marshal Law.

I've been reading a bunch of both DC and Marvel borrowed from the library lately (they tend to have much more DC than Marvel) and its mostly been Batman, or the team-up stories like JLA: Obsidian Age or Marvel's Annihilation arc. They're fun if nothing else.

While Batman is definitely my favorite, from what I've seen, Green Lantern, Plastic Man, and a handful of ex-Heralds of Galactus would be the ones left standing when the dust settles. Though there will always be those omnipotent beings that both tend to not join directly in battle and who seem to be invincible, like Death.


I was a fan of Spawn back in the early days as well. Though I stopped reading 'em around 50 or so. Apparently Armageddon actually occurs starting somewhere around 150. I saw a compilation at B&N yesterday and I might just pick it up after solstice.

Anung Un Rama wrote:Oh please, stop with comparing power levels, there's no ing end to something like that.
Yes I know that Superman is strong, ergo there have to be a lot of other strong characters in one of the 51 DC universes, I get it, but this can go on and on. I could talk about all those powerfull super Marvel characters, like the Silver Surfer, Thanos, the Red Skull since he absorbed the cosmic cube, Doc Strange and stuff like that. The thing is, characters like those are ridicolous in both, Marvel and DC comics. Superheroes/villians who can alter reality are boring in 95% of all cases, and in the other 5% their used for stupid retconning, like Heroes Reborn or Brand ing Day.

I'm not talking about power levels... Batman's just awesome.

So true but now he's insane

Marvel.

How many DC villains can you remember outside Gotham City? And how many do you remember from JUST the silver-age Amazing Spider-Man?

Dude. The Marvel Multiverse has just so many superheroes, that they would smash DC to death. The Sentry (R.Reynolds, the one from New Avengers vol.2), Sub-Mariner (DC has a clone of him called Aquaman or something), Silver Surfer, Hulk, Dr Strange... the list goes on. And that's only what was on the top of my mind.

Plus, just as Typeline said, no Marvel character can stop 9/11, while Superman just plays "catch" with aircraft as if it were paperballs.