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2008/12/31 14:57:23
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Madrak Ironhide
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My favorite part of Civil War was Warren Ellis's take on Nextwave.
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2008/12/31 15:02:45
Subject: Re:Marvel vs DC comics
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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I don't really rate the Civil War storyline that much at all, mainly as it required too many characters to act in a manner they shouldn't or wouldn't do.
Plus I felt given the immense destruction that has happened in the (Marvel) world before-- Genosha anyone ?-- it struck me as a bit odd or frankly BS that this would be the straw that broke the camels back. And I'd point out DC did has done similar stories-- Legends etc-- years ( perhaps even decades) back 
And you know in about 5 months the whole thing will be forgotten anyway.
Except Cap getting shot and replaced-- that is cool and was well done, not least his successor is a logical chocie with a cool story going with it.
I will say-- awful Quesada calls aside here and there-- Marvel's editorial team and steering is a lot better than DC's at the moment, I wonder what the hell Dido is doing at times with his...... err.... shall we say "lax" approach to continuity and general interlinking of events. Final Crisis is awesome stuff, typical Morrison really with more ideas and concepts in a single issue than most other writers use in a year.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/01/01 14:43:49
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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One Canoptek Scarab in a Swarm
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danm you th hardest q ever
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i am starting another new army
95% of teens would go into a panic attack if the jonas brothers were about to jump off the empire state building copy and paste this if you are the 5% who would pull up a lawn chair grab some popcorn and yell JUMP BITCHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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2009/01/01 15:30:57
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Madrak Ironhide
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I voted DC since DC owns Vertigo:
Fables
Invisibles
Sandman
100 Bullets
Books of Magic
Army @ Love
DMZ
Preacher
Transmetropolitan
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2009/01/02 09:34:20
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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But Vertigo is not DC....
Two seperate stables under one ownership.
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2009/01/02 09:42:17
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter
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ah but Vertigo is a spin off of DC like tangent comics and milestone comics which was then absorbed into DC itself. DC also created Vertigo as a means of more adult oriented stories not suitable for young people. Vertigo made spin offs of the losers a DC WW2 group, the original sandman wesly dodds, weird war tales and many other DC titles and characters
Civil war was alright I guess but it is just a means of marvel to kill off unecessary characters and to kill main characters to add to dramatic effect like Mday, secret Invasion, the twelve(I am a big fan of this though) etc
Secret Invasion was a mean of marvel to add in old characters that everyone forgot by saying the real ones were in skrull space OMG
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"What do you think my A stands for France?!" ultimate captain america
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2009/01/02 10:27:57
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Anti-Armour Swiss Guard
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While I've read comics I've never had a particular loyalty to one label. I liked the character or the story, not the owner of the label.
For a while there, though (going back 10-15 years), the label I liked, though (in terms of comics/characters or stories) was Dark Horse. I thought that all of the lycra clad pretty boys could go blow.  Then they got popular and started making movies and I stopped reading comics about the same time.
Other than that, my mail comic character loyalties were 2000AD ones.
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I'm OVER 50 (and so far over everyone's BS, too).
Old enough to know better, young enough to not give a ****.
That is not dead which can eternal lie ...
... and yet, with strange aeons, even death may die.
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2009/01/02 10:38:28
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Ridin' on a Snotling Pump Wagon
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Darkhrose are now doing collected volumes of their movie tie-in lines, like Alien, Predator, AvP, Terminator, Star Wars, Angel, Buffy, Indiana Jones...
Slowly getting the Predator, Terminator, Alien and cross over ones!
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2009/01/02 12:17:14
Subject: Re:Marvel vs DC comics
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Indeed.
Because people were crying out for the return of Mockingbird after her 15 year death right ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/01/02 13:15:12
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Madrak Ironhide
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:But Vertigo is not DC....
Two seperate stables under one ownership.
Well then I probably shouldn't have voted 
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2009/01/02 14:13:08
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:But Vertigo is not DC....
Two seperate stables under one ownership.
No more so than the Ultimates or Maxx line surely ?
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/01/02 20:06:59
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Yellin' Yoof
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reds8n wrote:Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:But Vertigo is not DC....
Two seperate stables under one ownership.
No more so than the Ultimates or Maxx line surely ?
Isn't Maxx set in the 616 Marvel Universe, but the titles don't interact with any "mainstream" Marvel titles?
The Ultimate Universe is a money spiner, pure and simple. There was only one good thing to com out of that and it was the Ultimates, then Jeph Loe got a hold of them, which is a shame because I really liked his work with Tim Sale on the Long Halloween, Daredevil: Yellow, Spider Man: Blue etc.
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2009/01/02 20:29:36
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Dominating Dominatrix
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Maxx isn't completly set in 616, because in the new Squadron Supreme books, Superheroes were a new thing.
imo, the ultimate universe isn't that bad. Ultimate Spidey is fun to read and Ultimates was pretty cool for some time. UXM was okay too, as far as I read it.
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2009/01/02 20:33:01
Subject: Re:Marvel vs DC comics
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[DCM]
Et In Arcadia Ego
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Never read that much of the Ultimate stuff myself, but have heard bad things about it of late. mainly on the excellant Rokk's comic book revolution-- recommended.
I'd point out-- as others have-- a lot of the Vertigo was at least partially connected to the mainstream DC universe. Doom Patrol, Swamp Thing, Sandman ( both variants) and many others-- Constantine !-- walk into and out of the "new Earth" universe.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/01/02 20:53:57
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Fixture of Dakka
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I like Grendel from Dark Horse. He has a great life style and has no super powers.
G
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2009/01/02 22:42:17
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Dominating Dominatrix
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So, I've been watching the JLA cartoon lately and I mostly noted 2 things.
1. Wonder Woman's only power seem to be deflecting projectiles with her wrist bands. No matter if it's bullets, lasers or magic.
2. John Stewart is the MOST BORING Green Lantern ever. All he ever does is shoot beams and make round shields. At least Hal Jordan used hammers or something. 
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2009/01/03 17:26:51
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:But Vertigo is not DC....
Two seperate stables under one ownership.
Nope, Vertigo is DC for adults/non-tights crowd. It exists within mainstream DC and has several characters appear in DC(the current Sandman, Daniel Hall, is the son of the previous Dr. Fate and grandson to Hawkman and has affected the DC storyline several times) or an older DC character with more mature themes(Wesley Dodds Sandman has been revived this way). Also, most newer versions of Vertigo TPBs and even some comics sport the DC logo in addition to the Vertigo label.
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2009/01/04 03:29:54
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter
Australia
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John stewart's boringness was answered in one episode where other green lanterns critisied him for being too simple with his ring
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"What do you think my A stands for France?!" ultimate captain america
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2009/01/04 03:44:32
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Anung Un Rama wrote:So, I've been watching the JLA cartoon lately
I think I've spotted the problem.
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2009/01/04 09:49:25
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter
Australia
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what's wrong with the cartoon? it was alright but I liked batman beyond a lot better. sure it was for kids but I liked it and the theme song was pretty good
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"What do you think my A stands for France?!" ultimate captain america
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2009/01/04 09:50:26
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Its JLA.
Like the Avengers only lame...
Superman... why need a team? (Excpet when faced by the very human Lex Luthor)
Batman is better by himself.
Flash I like but Quicksilver is better
Green lantern can be foiled by a guy in a yellow jumpsuit. At least until 2006 when DC retconned the ring's long-established lack of effect on yellow objects, stating that the ring-wielder need only feel fear and overcome it in order to affect yellow objects. 'OOOhhh I'm scared of yellow!'
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2009/01/04 09:57:33
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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IOW, Squadron Supreme...
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2009/01/04 10:06:57
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter
Australia
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Quicksilver?! Flash out runs him quicksilver clocks off at the speed of sound while the flash clocks off at the speed of light and there are several flashes
The green lantern's weakness was made by the guardians to stop any rogue lanterns and batman can't take on gods on his own you know
Superman I guess your right
The avengers?! look I have nothing against them but they are so fractured I mean you got the mighty avengers, secret avengers, new avengers and the young avengers and the dark avengers. If you put them all together they can't even decide to get a glass of water without someone yell against that and causing a massive fight which then becomes a civil war while the JLA all can agree with each other and accepts anyone into their ranks as long as they can prove they are fighting for good I mean the ultramarine corps were bad guys but they were inducted into the league after realising the truth while the avengers all kill each other
Squadron supreme LOL I love that comic
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"What do you think my A stands for France?!" ultimate captain america
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2009/01/04 10:49:16
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Thinking about it, my biggest problem with DC is that most of their villains are simply evil palette swaps with the good guy. So DC heroes and villains don't have uniqueness. Example?
Superman - he's unique in the universe, the last of a extinct race. But then there are loads of these guys from the Phantom Zone. And then there are "clones" like Bizarro.
Wonder Woman? she's unique, er, nope, lots of Amazons, some good some bad.
Shazam? He's got an evil emo brother who wears black.
Green Lantern? Oh, there's a whole Corps of these guys. And then there's a color-swapped anti-Corps.
And this repeats for practically everybody except Batman, who has a distinctive rogue's gallery out of Arkham.
Plus, DC was huge on the juniorization to further dilute things. (Which is why Bucky had to die)
Marvel, OTOH, wants everybody to be their own special snowflake, pushing for "No Duplicates".
You just have to look at the X-Men and Avengers torchbearers to see how this plays out. Each "mutant" has different powers, and their opposing teams have different powers and strategies as well.
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2009/01/04 10:52:27
Subject: Re:Marvel vs DC comics
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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I was never really that impressed by any Avenger stories.
The line up itself never makes much or any sense given the veritable whos who of herodom in the 616 universe, and they don't actually ever Avenge anything, making the name a bit spank.
Peel and Steed were better.
The point of the JLA- if done right-- is that it handles threats too big for even the big S to handle on his own.
I do miss J'onn J'onzz though, R.I.P. Glad to see Firestorm back in the line up though.
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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2009/01/04 16:53:00
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Fireknife Shas'el
All over the U.S.
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Imperial your forgetting the jr JLA (can't remember the full name)that existed . The JLA in the future and the Teen titans. Both franchises have cloned their Mega team franchises.
Marvel had the Fantastic Four, to which DC has no equivalent. I say had because I enjoyed the comic but Jessica Alba as Sue Richards just about killed it for me.
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Officially elevated by St. God of Yams to the rank of Scholar of the Church of the Children of the Eternal Turtle Pie at 11:42:36 PM 05/01/09
If they are too stupid to live, why make them?
In the immortal words of Socrates, I drank what??! 
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2009/01/04 17:06:57
Subject: Re:Marvel vs DC comics
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Monstrous Master Moulder
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What the hell does DC stand for anyway?
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Bewhiskered Gasmasks: For the Post-Apocalyptic Gentleman
And to this day, on darkest nyte
It can be seen, they tell
A Prynce of Rattes, in finery
Upon a horned bell.
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2009/01/04 19:49:26
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Madrak Ironhide
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Detective Comics
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2009/01/04 20:27:22
Subject: Marvel vs DC comics
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Sureshot Kroot Hunter
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The junior JLA i forgot but the teen titans were a different team altogether and young justice was a branch of the titans and the challengers of the unkown are DC's answer to the FF
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"What do you think my A stands for France?!" ultimate captain america
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2009/01/04 20:40:47
Subject: Re:Marvel vs DC comics
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Et In Arcadia Ego
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What junior JLA is this then ?
DC has it's fair share of teams/organisations.
Nothing as cool as the Legion of Superheroes in their prime/pomp but then again what could be as col as that ? Nothing. Nothing I tell ye !
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The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
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