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Monstrous Master Moulder




Sacramento, CA

More page number prognostication:
Advisors are on page 31. These include the astropath, bodyguard, artillery officer, and fleet officer. The next two pages may also be advisors, including commissars, commissar lords, and primaris psykers.

Troops are on 36. Elites start at page 40, and include something called penal legionnaires.

There is something weird going on on page 47. It has a Mentor and a sanctioned psyker.

Everyone from page 57 on up is a special character.

"Veteran sergeant" is in the hardened veterans entry. Guardsmen would appear to use the "Sergeant" located in their own entry, with the same stats as the current veteran sergeant.

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Richmond, VA

I have no cleaned the urine off, and can say WOW!! I am going to have so many damn tanks... *cries tears of joy*

I really want to know what sort of special rules each special character provides. Will the new RRs be Attilan remakes? If they look super hot, i don't even think I'd mind.

They had BETTER have the rule about using any special character in any army (a la the C:SM) though. This bok is gonna be so freaking awesome! And STs get AP3! Die MEQs!

I just can't stop bouncing in my seat. I need all of these models, and I need them now. Is that so much to ask? I don't even know where I'm going to keep all the tanks I'm going to get.

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Pestilent Plague Marine with Blight Grenade





The Frozen North

T 4 Yarrick! Yes!

Huh. Artillery Sergeant Harker is Strength 4. I wonder if that's a misprint.

Commissar Lords look pretty nice. WS BS 5, and 3 Wounds. They're probably going to be overpriced, though.

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Richmond, VA

Don't think anyone mentioned, but the Executuoner, Punisher, and Demolisher all have rear armor 11, instead of 10 like the rest of the LRMBTs. Maybe the Rear armor 10 come in squads and 11 do not? Just a thought. Would LOVE some Vanquisher Squads. Or exterminator Squads.
   
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Richmond, VA

Good Lord, GW really really wants the meta-game to go towards horde armies don't they? Between this and the Supa Dupa buff of Orks, MEQ's are going to join the chasing pack.

 
   
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chaplaingrabthar wrote:Good Lord, GW really really wants the meta-game to go towards horde armies don't they? Between this and the Supa Dupa buff of Orks, MEQ's are going to join the chasing pack.


Weren't they pretty much already doing this?

For the MEQ hate, are they really ever 'top tier'?

Well, maybe only in the sense that they're always first out of the gate, but after that...

And I really hope that the new Rough Riders are NOT Atillan-style, but hopefully Cadian.
   
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West Sussex, UK

It all looks very good. I can't wait to tweek my guard to the new rules.

I just ordered the landing pad from FW so my new Valk can land in style



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Though normally, I might go as far to say I hate the French... Emperor be praised! May they be spared for this sacred leak. :bows head in humble devotion the Emperor:

Orks are like those neighbor children who aren't invited to your parties and they come right in anyway.

Veritas Crusade 2000pts
95th Krieg 'Blackguard' 3000pts
Cadian 489th 2000pts
 
   
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Richmond, VA

Alpharius wrote:
chaplaingrabthar wrote:Good Lord, GW really really wants the meta-game to go towards horde armies don't they? Between this and the Supa Dupa buff of Orks, MEQ's are going to join the chasing pack.


Weren't they pretty much already doing this?

For the MEQ hate, are they really ever 'top tier'?

Well, maybe only in the sense that they're always first out of the gate, but after that...

And I really hope that the new Rough Riders are NOT Atillan-style, but hopefully Cadian.


Honestly though, does it really matter as long as they look bad-ass? I agree, Cadian all the way, but I don't give a damn so long as they're as cool as the recent Chaos Knights for WHFB.
   
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I wonder where Gaunt went.

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Richmond, VA

Aussi. ou est le Prete?

(Also, where is the Priest?)

I guess no priests in this book.

EDIT: Forget it, I found him. He's actually AFTER the Techpriest. Does this mean Tech-Priests are now advisors?

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Alert Bay, BC - Home of the Killer Whale/ 'Yalis of the 'Namgis, Band of the Kwa'Kwakawakw FN

You know, when I reported a rumour around summer last year, that there was going to be 22 "tanks" in the new codex, I was somewhat mocked because of how foolish that would be, etc.

I told you so.

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Monstrous Master Moulder




Sacramento, CA

Scottywan82 wrote:Aussi. ou est le Prete?

(Also, where is the Priest?)

I guess no priests in this book.
Pretre du Ministorum, page 35. Missed that on the first pass, sorry.

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Essen, Ruhr

There's also an SC called Lukas Bastonne, supposedly an ST chara.

The Executioner is Heavy 3 blast.

The sniper pistol is supposedly Sly Marbo's side arm.

There is only a Platoon commander and a Company commander, not three officer types.

Either officers or Psykers (or any character?) get a bodyguard with WS and BS 4.

Officers have -1 Ini.

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The Frozen North

Scottywan82 wrote:Aussi. ou est le Prete?

(Also, where is the Priest?)

I guess no priests in this book.


It's actually just below Ogryn. Prêtre du Ministorum.

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Richmond, VA

I think we must be missing something key about this book. Rough Riders appear to be before Storm Troopers, but after Ogryns, Penal Troopers, and Veterans.

Valkyries and Vendettas are the last entries before the special character sections.

Hellhounds and the variants are after the LRMBT, but before the Valk/Vendetta.

Are the Elite, FA, and HS sections split up? Are they split up to accomodate being attached to platoons? Do they seperate vehicles from infantry/cavalry? These questions prey on my mind.

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Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S

I see all Russ tanks are lumped together into a single article.

Bull.



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Piercing the heavens

Damnit! I was so looking forward to commisar Cain
   
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Oh my god, I think I need a new pair of pants..... Unreal. However it did confirm the fact that the only hell hound varient worth taking now is the chemical canon one. If the reduced range on the infurno canon is true that you are looking at tanks that will only get to shoot once per game. The only one in my mind that will be able to make its points back with one shot is the chemical one. Drive foward, shoot, take a PF to the tail pipe and explode.
   
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Otiose in a Niche






Hyderabad, India

Wow guys, thanks!

If you can't see I put a JPG in the gallery
http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/20411-2009%20IG%20reference%20sheet%20%28French%29.html

Things I note:

No Salamander :(
Servitors are now BS3 :(
Garde Penal are A3 but Legionaire Penal are A1? Is one the sergent?
What's a Mentor?
Sly Marbo is I5 with 4 attacks!!
Technaugure is such a cooler name than Enginseer
No sign that the Valkyrie is open-topped but then again none of the vehicles on this list say open-topped.
The French for flamer template seems to be Souffle, which is awesome.
Oh and the Large Blast Template is the Grande Explosion, which is what should have been called in the first place!

In all, quite happy. Back to making Storm Troopers!

 
   
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Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S

Inferno cannon is template only according to the sheet. It has a * though, so it could be anything.



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chaplaingrabthar wrote:Good Lord, GW really really wants the meta-game to go towards horde armies don't they? Between this and the Supa Dupa buff of Orks, MEQ's are going to join the chasing pack.


And people still claim a 15pts Marine is too good. Yeah, sure.

In other news, anti horde is the new anti meq and meq's will be the new horde. Or something like that...
   
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Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S

Crap, Jarran Kell has gone down in WS and BS, the only power house remaining is Yarrick. Damn shame.



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Whorelando, FL

Dude. This is fething awesome. Although having ALL characters Initiative 3 is dumb.

Capt K

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Wow, that's just all I can say, wow.

This is fantastic. I'd love to see some point costs, though, so I can start planning on which additional vehicles I need to buy.

Hopefully we won't be disappointed by how advisers work.

EDIT: AP 3 Hellguns make me laugh.

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McDonough, GA

Kid_Kyoto wrote:
No Salamander :(


But there is something called a Devil Dog, could this just be the french name for Salamander? (or just wishful thinking?)
   
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Sacramento, CA

Hardened veterans, Penal legion, Ogryn, Ratlings, Rough riders, Sentinel, Stormtroopers. With the exception of the penal legion, whose actual unit name is unknown, that's simple alphabetical order. The codex seems to be set up HQ, advisors, troops, other units, vehicles, special characters. Compared to certain other recent codexes that's a remarkably logical layout.

Speculating about page 47, the Mentor appears to be the leader of a squad of sanctioned psykers available as an elites choice.

Don't know how significant this is, but the Valkyrie is listed among the vehicles, not in among the troops or other units like the dedicated transport Chimera.

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Washington State

Good thing that Spanish codex was all wish listing right? Hardie har har.....seriously though it's good to see that most of it was true and get to see all the stats too.

You flatter me. But really, I'm just an ordinary guy. I put my pants on the same way anybody else does: I put a gun to the head of my manservant and bark Russian military commands at him until the poor blighter either figures it out or watches his brains exit his forehead.

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Foda_Bett wrote:I wonder where Gaunt went.

I'm guessing they just want you to use the Commissar Lord for him.

Lord Solar Plexus wrote:
Either officers or Psykers (or any character?) get a bodyguard with WS and BS 4.

I'm betting the body guards are what you get if you don't take the Fleet Officer, Astropath, or Master of the Watch (Artillery). They probably wanted a trade off to make you at least think whether you want to take all three or not.

Scottywan82 wrote:I think we must be missing something key about this book. Rough Riders appear to be before Storm Troopers, but after Ogryns, Penal Troopers, and Veterans.

Valkyries and Vendettas are the last entries before the special character sections.

Hellhounds and the variants are after the LRMBT, but before the Valk/Vendetta.

Are the Elite, FA, and HS sections split up? Are they split up to accomodate being attached to platoons? Do they seperate vehicles from infantry/cavalry? These questions prey on my mind.

The page references are probably for the unit descriptions and not the unit stat/cost section and thus aren't necessarily organized by FOC.

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