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The bumblebee one is best. Love the head design.

jackinthetank wrote:The models are clearly the same... the "plastic one" had just had it's jaw lowered and its tongue extended with putty.

I can assure you it's not the FW Trygon, or at the very least, if it's a conversion of one, very little of the original parts are on that conversion. I own the FW model and comparing mine to the Apoc pic and Phil Kelly's model, they are clearly NOT the same.

Look at it closely there are TONS of tiny differences. They are not the same model.

jackinthetank wrote:The models are clearly the same... the "plastic one" had just had it's jaw lowered and its tongue extended with putty.

It's pretty much confirmed that it is plastic. Any similarities are intentional. There are some differences, an extra rib here and there, some other small things. Just look how close the Valkyrie is to the FW's.

I think it looks different compared to FW one but....

why Trygon?? i realize its a popular model but the variance are still ALL CC related! whats the point?

Give us Heridules or something where we can atleast pick between ranged or CC ....

Well one reason may be that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt the Trygon rules to normal 40k (a la the Valkyrie). Also, as the Trygon is smaller it wouldn't be as big of a risk for GW as releasing a heirodule or other large bio-titan. If it sells well, I'd expect to see other big Nid beasties released in the future.

Ozymandias wrote:Well one reason may be that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt the Trygon rules to normal 40k (a la the Valkyrie). Also, as the Trygon is smaller it wouldn't be as big of a risk for GW as releasing a heirodule or other large bio-titan. If it sells well, I'd expect to see other big Nid beasties released in the future.

I totally agree with you , because after all , Trygon was going to be the FW model for tyranids i would get.

But if people are considering purchasing multiple trygons for example i think have them all CC related would be boring
and might hurt the sales

( pose looks static , it would be ok for tanks yes, but not for organisms imo )

LunaHound wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Well one reason may be that it wouldn't be that hard to adapt the Trygon rules to normal 40k (a la the Valkyrie). Also, as the Trygon is smaller it wouldn't be as big of a risk for GW as releasing a heirodule or other large bio-titan. If it sells well, I'd expect to see other big Nid beasties released in the future.

I totally agree with you , because after all , Trygon was going to be the FW model for tyranids i would get.

But if people are considering purchasing multiple trygons for example i think have them all CC related would be boring
and might hurt the sales

( pose looks static , it would be ok for tanks yes, but not for organisms imo )

The Trygon has a short ranged shooting attack(at least currently). However, if it uses it, it doesn't get it Invulnerable Save.

Trygons have always been CC Monsters, ever since their inception in Space Marine Hive War.

They are shock troops. They don't need long ranged firepower, because they come out from underground and tear into your rear lines....

LunaHound wrote:
I think it looks different compared to FW one but....

why Trygon?? i realize its a popular model but the variance are still ALL CC related! whats the point?

Give us Heridules or something where we can atleast pick between ranged or CC ....

I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature. That a true superheavy like the Heridule might be in the works. Simply put size/strength/ability the Trygon as it is doesn't really match up to the other super heavies done so far or rumored. Then again GW may just see it as a larger risk than the previous superheavies and opt to do it as a $60 kit instead of the larger $95 ones.

aka_mythos wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
I think it looks different compared to FW one but....

why Trygon?? i realize its a popular model but the variance are still ALL CC related! whats the point?

Give us Heridules or something where we can atleast pick between ranged or CC ....

I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature. That a true superheavy like the Heridule might be in the works. Simply put size/strength/ability the Trygon as it is doesn't really match up to the other super heavies done so far or rumored. Then again GW may just see it as a larger risk than the previous superheavies and opt to do it as a $60 kit instead of the larger $95 ones.

Yes, the play it safe route GW chose to go with.

Makes you wonder why dont they just take a deep breath and go for a design thats not dependent on FW's creativity.

A new Tyranid super heavy that have both ranged and cc options thats not done by FW yet.
I mean seriously, the only "cool" stuff seem to come from FW . why is it like that? Are the GW design team just not as talented?

I would rather go to BOLS for rumors than Warseer any day, and I don't care if they give them credit or not. What I really want if a plastic Warhound.

warpcrafter wrote:I would rather go to BOLS for rumors than Warseer any day, and I don't care if they give them credit or not. What I really want if a plastic Warhound.

And they'll do that as soon as they do a plastic thunderhawk. Likely never.

warpcrafter wrote:I would rather go to BOLS for rumors than Warseer any day, and I don't care if they give them credit or not.

As others have put it, BoLS is good in a way for getting the headlines for rumours. But to continue the analogy, the real story lies in the link to wherever they got the information from (when they provide a link). Unfortunately, like with real news/papers, you then have to wade through a lot of crap to uncover the details/truth.

Just like in real life, if you only read the headlines you're not getting the full story.

LunaHound wrote:
Yes, the play it safe route GW chose to go with.

Makes you wonder why dont they just take a deep breath and go for a design thats not dependent on FW's creativity.

A new Tyranid super heavy that have both ranged and cc options thats not done by FW yet.
I mean seriously, the only "cool" stuff seem to come from FW . why is it like that? Are the GW design team just not as talented?

The design work is already done. So all GW has to do is translate the FW design into a plastic sprue. That's a lot easier than doing the design AND doing the sprue construction. I don't think it's a question of talent, rather one of convenience. I mean, hell, if you got a great design already sitting there, might as well make it into a plastic kit!

aka_mythos wrote:I seriously see this as being in the Tyranid codex getting downgraded from Gargantuan to an extra tough monstrous creature.

Why? They didn't do that for the Baneblade, Shadowsword or Stompa? What do you base this on?

Um... the Valkyrie?

Which was already changed for Apoc, and then translated into regular rules. Moreover, the Valk isn't a Super-Heavy (or creater equiv), something that the Trygon is.

everyone seems to be forgetting that they had the prototypes for the plastic stompa in THE FIRST APOCALYPSE BOOK. that was a long time away from the actual release. even if they do plan to release a plastic trygon, it will be in a long time, and we will probably have lots of models that are even more impressive being made into plastic by that time. so yes, it is almost certainally going to be made into plastic, but not for a long time.

bottbott wrote:everyone seems to be forgetting that they had the prototypes for the plastic stompa in THE FIRST APOCALYPSE BOOK. that was a long time away from the actual release. even if they do plan to release a plastic trygon, it will be in a long time, and we will probably have lots of models that are even more impressive being made into plastic by that time. so yes, it is almost certainally going to be made into plastic, but not for a long time.

Bottbott, the picture of this supposedly plastic Trygon(the black and red one) is FROM the first Apocalypse book, so the time frame is the same as that of the already released Stompa.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Which was already changed for Apoc, and then translated into regular rules. Moreover, the Valk isn't a Super-Heavy (or creater equiv), something that the Trygon is.

That's awfully nitpicky. The valkyrie is a FW model that had rules unsuitable for normal 40k that were brought in line with the new Codex: IG. I don't think it's a stretch to say that the Trygon (a FW model with rules unsuitable for normal 40k) might get the same treatment.

Platuan4th wrote:Why doesn't someone just ask Moloch? He's a user here, it's his Paint scheme, and the vast majority of the rest of the nids in that battle are HIS(you can tell between Moloch's and GW's because Moloch's carapaces are black and GW's are bluish), so I assumed the Trygon was his.

And if it's not his, he may know something about it for the reason of he was there.

Sorry, for obvious reasons I couldn`t possibly comment. I remember that this particular beast was slain rather tragically by the Assault Marines and their Sergeant`s power first though...

Wow Ozymandias, I just got your reference...

Anyways, I don't see they the wouldn't stick it in the Tyranid codex. They are supposed to be the kings of all things big and pointy, this is just taking it to an all new level. (and anyways, it doesn't look bigger or even as big, as the plastic Mumak from LotR)

Moloch wrote:
Sorry, for obvious reasons I couldn`t possibly comment. I remember that this particular beast was slain rather tragically by the Assault Marines and their Sergeant`s power first though...

I have my answer if it is plastic or a conversion

Ratbarf wrote:Wow Ozymandias, I just got your reference...

Quoi?

wilsmire wrote:

Moloch wrote:
Sorry, for obvious reasons I couldn`t possibly comment. I remember that this particular beast was slain rather tragically by the Assault Marines and their Sergeant`s power first though...

I have my answer if it is plastic or a conversion

Quoi?

Quoi?

Is that not a reference to Ozymandias (the pic and name) from The Watchmen?

PS: I've read the poem to in English class, I just thought the pic was a picture of old Aquaman or something.

ShumaGorath wrote:And they'll do that as soon as they do a plastic thunderhawk. Likely never.

Really if you say so.

You're an evil man Brimstone.

You gotta admit Brim was shooting fish in a barrel with that one.