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No problem with it at all. In fact I've got nothing against anything that goes on between consenting adults. I strongly suspect that the most vocal opponents of homosexuality are normally protesting a bit too much . I'm willing to bet that Fred Phelps had a experience in college that he just doesn't want to admit he enjoyed!

I always thought sexuality was a deep, personal choice. Not some kind of fashion statement.

I completely agree with focusedfire on this one. If you're happy, great for you. Asking strangers for their opinions is just a great way to confuse things and alienate people.

Here in Manchester, we have a great street of bars and clubs referred to as the 'gay village'. I quite enjoy drinking there as the booze is cheap and the company is generally good. The only downer is the people who decide to foist their sexual preferences on me. I just see this as an insecure 'look at me! look at me!' attitude, down my pint, and move swiftly to the next bar.

I know this is probably one of those lessons you have to learn for yourself in life, but seriously, be very careful when attaching labels to yourself.

Golden Eyed Scout wrote:I don't mean to offend anyone here, but I wondered what Dakka Dakka users think of homosexuality and bisexuality.
Some of you have seen my new addition to my sig, and if you thought I was joking, you are wrong. I have gay family members, and am not ashamed of this.
If asking this gets my kicked of dakka, so be it. I ask that you don't post anything inflammatory, or discrimatory, and just give you're honest opionion. if you
think it's morally reprehensible, as many do, please tell me why.

I feel it's perfectly natural, and if it's a sin against God, why'd God invent it?

I think I could utterly care less.

Envy89 wrote:

Envy I am stealing this pic...Zoinc!

Sexual relations between two consenting adults is their own business. If two grown men love each other or hell, just fancy a bit and take correct precautions, more power to them. You are not yet an adult, wait and see how things progress for you, do not get drawn into anything you don't like.

Be VERY careful posting your private life on an internet forum, the internet, even Dakka, is not a place to reveal much about you that may come back to haunt you or be used to take advantage. From this, understand your sexuality as your travelling into adulthood may well prove a mutable thing.

This isn't a sounding board of supportive friends, this is a website with a massive range of people using it. Some of them will hate you for liking red space marines more than black ones, let alone your preferred sexual partners. You will find some here who will call you brave for saying what you are saying here, I would call you braver for going to discuss this with someone who is professionally bound by confidentiality, a school counselor or something. Talk to people IRL who can help and support you.

Frazzled wrote:I think I could utterly care less.

I think I would agree with this.

What school of Buddhism? Lineage? There isn't one type of Buddhism much like there isn't one type of Christian. How long have you been studying?

It's not often you'll read this from me, but I think the US Military has the right idea.

Don't ask, don't tell.

A persons sexual orientation is no business of anyone barring themselves and their current partner of choice. Why the need to label ourselves straight, gay, bi or asexual, who cares? If you fancy giving your other half an affectionate kiss when out and about, cool. If you want to hold hands, cool. But snogging (french kissing for the Yanks) is not something I really want to see in the street. Marvellously distasteful, regardless of the genders involved.

Until homosexual people no longer have to 'come out' there will always be those throwing up extremely childish arguements as to why not just fancying the opposite sex is wrong.

I have to go with focusedfire about the whole defining thing. You're gay/bi, so whoopdy freakin doo get over it because I don't really give a care. If you let your sexual preferences define you, then are you a person or just a preference. There's other things that you do to help define yourself, I personally think that god will give you a break about being gay/bi as long as you're a good person.

Unlike those homosexual protesters that burnt a church down in California, I'm pretty sure that's close to being hell worthy.

Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:It's not often you'll read this from me, but I think the US Military has the right idea.

Don't ask, don't tell.

A persons sexual orientation is no business of anyone barring themselves and their current partner of choice. Why the need to label ourselves straight, gay, bi or asexual, who cares? If you fancy giving your other half an affectionate kiss when out and about, cool. If you want to hold hands, cool. But snogging (french kissing for the Yanks) is not something I really want to see in the street. Marvellously distasteful, regardless of the genders involved.

Until homosexual people no longer have to 'come out' there will always be those throwing up extremely childish arguements as to why not just fancying the opposite sex is wrong.

Word.

what the fuudge has any of this got to do with Warhammer, I think you'd be better chatting an another forum, I'm sure there are thousands that are geared towards such topics, I thought this one was about moddelling, painting and wargames!

OT Zone uri lee, things are a little more open here. But aya in the other sections this is blindingly irrelevant.

OK , just realized this is the Off Topic Forum! My bad! Still, I'm not wrong. How old are you, 15? Buggery is against the law till you are 21 isn't it?

I don't care about people's sexual preference. Someone can shag a bicycle for all I care.

I have to fall into the 'don't care' camp, with a side of 'I didn't need to know that', why because its none of my business.

In fact the only annoying thing gay/bi people do is announcing to everyone their sexuality. I don't go wandering around yelling 'woo hoo I'm straight'.
Don't get me wrong its not like every gay/bi person is like this, but enough are, so as to make it noticeable.

Sexuality is such a small part of who you are, it only affects your sex partners not the public in general.

As for gay marriage, let em, gay/bi people should have to be miserable just like the rest of us.

Many of you seem to have the idea I'm letting this define me, or I'm doing it for attention. I am not. I know who I am, what I like, and am very happy. I was just wondering what dakka dakka users were wondering.

Sorry, most gays/bis just say it for the attention. As you can see, most people don't really care about the whole sexual preference thing. We don't care if you are happy with your sexual preference, just like you probably wouldn't care about mine, frazzled's, boss's, ahtman's, inquisitor's, or really anyone elses.

Respectfully, if you're not letting this define you, why are you putting it in your signature line?

I don't care if you have it there, but by the very nature of including it in your siggie line aren't you using it to define you?

EDIT: I should note, I don't care if you put it in the sig, but no whining if people question you for putting it in the sig.

That's what I was thinking but I didn't know how to phrase it.

I don't care about people's sexual preference. Someone can shag a bicycle for all I care.

First off, epic answer.
Second, I am Christian but I don't care what sexuality you are. I believe you will go to hell for being gay, and I find it nasty for two guys to kiss (while hot for two girls ) but if you don't go around being all "I am gay and there's nothing you can do about it! Now who wants to go fight about this new development!!!" Im all right with it. My mom had some gay friends before we moved a long time ago, so I grew up without a belief in hating them. I just don't think its biologically right... I mean, if you're Christian, you'll know God popped a cap in Sodom and Gomorrah for being gay, and if you are evolutionist then you'll think that it is not biolically important or necessary for procreation...But overall I don't care. Wish it didn't really exist because I get tired about it being in the news, but if you're gay that's cool. Just don't hit on me or you're

Wow mcfly you could not be more contradictory to the christian religion. Good Christians do not swear, they do not find two girls hot as it is still homosexuality and they do not take the lords name in vain. I know this and I'm not even Christian.

And don't worry they probably won't.

I care very deeply about this topic of human sexuality in public because the day I dry-hump the wrong person, who will inevitably tell me, "I'm sorry sir but I believe you have confused my sexuality for yours," is the day I will feel quite silly. Quite silly indeed.

arch_inquisitor wrote:Wow mcfly you could not be more contradictory to the christian religion. Good Christians do not swear, they do not find two girls hot as it is still homosexuality and they do not take the lords name in vain. I know this and I'm not even Christian.

And don't worry they probably won't.

Alright, so I'll explain. I am Christian but open. I don't swear out loud or EVER take the Lords name in vain. I just say what I want online and don't worry about the consequences.

I believe that homosexuality is one of nature's responses to overcrowding. It's a behaviour that can be seen in many different animal species as their populations start to expand.

I believe that bisexuals are wishy-washy types who cannot make decisions.

First off: My opinion, whatever people do behind closed doors is their own business. You have no right to judge them. Even this guy is entitled to do whatever he likes, as long as I don't have to clean up afterwards.

mcfly wrote:
I am Christian but I don't care what sexuality you are. I believe you will go to hell for being gay, and I find it nasty for two guys to kiss (while hot for two girls )

You're such a hypocrite! How can you call yourself a Christian with a two-faced judgement like that?! Just because TV makes it alright for girls to "experiment", how can it be wrong for two men to do it? Why is loving someone else, regardless of gender, wrong in any shape or form? Didn't your Jesus say "Love thy neighbour as you love yourself" (Leviticus 19:18) and aren't you showing severely unchristian-like behaviour for letting your mouth run off like that?

mcfly wrote:I just don't think its biologically right...

Actually, homosexual behaviour is frequently seen in other species.

mcfly wrote:I mean, if you're Christian, you'll know God popped a cap in Sodom and Gomorrah for being gay, and if you are evolutionist then you'll think that it is not biolically important or necessary for procreation...

Technically, LOVE is not "biolically important or necessary"[sic] for procreation either. And quoting the Bible to back up your point but then ignoring the other tenants like, I dunno, Luke 6:37, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged" just makes your point sound very silly.

mcfly wrote:But overall I don't care. Wish it didn't really exist because I get tired about it being in the news, but if you're gay that's cool. Just don't hit on me or you're

Oh, I'm sorry. So, you don't care but you don't want it to exist?
Make up your mind, have a properly educated opinion and stick to your guns. If you want to call yourself Christian but use phrases like "don't hit on me or you're " then you should really re-evaluate your values, because Jesus don't preach no hate, lol.

Or don't post on the Dakka OT board, anyway.

I think you're being greedy Taking 2 people out of the dating pool leaves all those single Gays and straights with one less possible date.

I personally don't care either way.

BUT i am against people telling people they can't be people

Okay people, this is not a get mad at Mcfly subject, this is a your opinion topic. Don't attack personally for having trouble expressing my opinion. But to try and explain:

Phloop wrote:First off: My opinion, whatever people do behind closed doors is their own business. You have no right to judge them. Even this guy is entitled to do whatever he likes, as long as I don't have to clean up afterwards.

mcfly wrote:
I am Christian but I don't care what sexuality you are. I believe you will go to hell for being gay, and I find it nasty for two guys to kiss (while hot for two girls )

You're such a hypocrite! How can you call yourself a Christian with a two-faced judgement like that?! Just because TV makes it alright for girls to "experiment", how can it be wrong for two men to do it? Why is loving someone else, regardless of gender, wrong in any shape or form? Didn't your Jesus say "Love thy neighbour as you love yourself" (Leviticus 19:18) and aren't you showing severely unchristian-like behaviour for letting your mouth run off like that?

Second part of that was a joke...it doesn't come off well over the internet...Yes it sounds bad. No I don't mean it.

mcfly wrote:I just don't think its biologically right...

Actually, homosexual behaviour is frequently seen in other species.

Weird animals aside, how can behavior like that ever be used in the animal kingdom?!?

mcfly wrote:I mean, if you're Christian, you'll know God popped a cap in Sodom and Gomorrah for being gay, and if you are evolutionist then you'll think that it is not biolically important or necessary for procreation...

Technically, [i]LOVE is not "biolically important or necessary"[sic] for procreation either. And quoting the Bible to back up your point but then ignoring the other tenants like, I dunno, Luke 6:37, "Judge not, and ye shall not be judged" just makes your point sound very silly.
I'm not [/i]

Hey, did I judge? Isn't this topic asking for others judgement? YES. duh. I'm not supposed to but I do , you do, everyone does. THATS why humans can't get to heaven alone.

mcfly wrote:But overall I don't care. Wish it didn't really exist because I get tired about it being in the news, but if you're gay that's cool. Just don't hit on me or you're

Oh, I'm sorry. So, you don't care but you don't want it to exist?

Yes. I don't like it as a whole, but person to person, Its the way you think you are. Even if I think you're wrong I am probably not gonna change you're mind, and I am not going to hate you for it. I have a low level dislike over the whole thing.

Make up your mind, have a properly educated opinion and stick to your guns. If you want to call yourself Christian but use phrases like "don't hit on me or you're " then you should really re-evaluate your values, because Jesus don't preach no hate, lol.

Hey, I'm not hating, the problem is that I have been mistaken for being gay because I do some effeminate things...namely, notice hair, clothing, and makeup, things a girl would notice but a guy isn't supposed to. It was another joke.

PEOPLE! (and I use this term loosely)

I understand I came off bad but this is peoples opinion. Don't get mad at me for giving mine. And Phloop, are you a Christian? Because if you are, you're opinion is wrong. And if you're not, then don't judge me after what you just said.

Now, SHUT UP and Don't get mad at me for what I say.

mcfly wrote:Hey, I'm not hating, the problem is that I have been mistaken for being gay because I do some effeminate things...namely, notice hair, clothing, and makeup, things a girl would notice but a guy isn't supposed to. It was another joke.

Maybe you're in denial? And what has this got to do with anything?

mcfly wrote:I understand I came off bad but this is peoples opinion. Don't get mad at me for giving mine. And Phloop, are you a Christian? Because if you are, you're opinion is wrong. And if you're not, then don't judge me after what you just said.

Now, SHUT UP and Don't get mad at me for what I say.

Perfect example of the fallacy of Ad Hominem, homeboy.
Firstly, my opinion is no more wrong than yours. I respect that you have views. But your views and the backup you give them are childish at best. I'm not attacking you, but the garbage you're spewing on the internet (by your own admission, "[you] just say what [you] want online and don't worry about the consequences.") is harmful and very, very ignorant.

And no, I'm not a Christian. Because of people like you.

Sexual maladaptations are not to be encouraged, or tolerated; their existence is detrimental to the species.

I also despise weak, effeminate men. Homosexuality seems to instill a feminine, vain, emotional sort of person - eager to please and to appear attractive.
And with a positive need to be liked.
That, or they have a massive inferiority complex and get vicious to anyone who calls them out on it.

Tolerance is not something I value. I do not expect others to be accepting of my peculiarities and vice versa; this is a competitive world - the fittest survive.

Now call me a bigot and report this post ...