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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:Oh I can top that.

My mate Deacon, who was my first and only friend in England from the age of 11 - 14, has had to move to Milton Keynes (the Devils Layby!) recently. Why?

Well, when he and his family moved into their previous home, there was an initial hiccup with the Rent payments. The Landlord had given them the wrong account details, and the Direct Debit from Deacon's account didn't go out. Now this time, nicely sorted out by paying cash. Hurrah! Proper details are sorted, next payment goes without a hitch, Paul forgets about it, which is kind of the idea about Direct Debits.

Anyways, Christmas last year, he gets a phonecall from his Landlord informing him that he's not received the Rent for TEN BLOODY MONTHS, and has only just got round to chasing Deacon up. Obviously, this is a massive problem for a young family of 5 (D and his Missus, Little'un and the Twin Sprogs). Deacon checks with his bank, and yup, no payments had left the account. Neither the Bank nor the Landlord had informed him of this. Kicking himself for not having checked either, he faces eviction.

So he goes round the Council, only to be effectively told 'Oh, sorry to hear that, but since you've actually paid tax into the system, you can go and feth yourself!'

Nothing. No help, whatsoever. A very young, tax paying family sidelined as 'not being a priority'. What a crock!

I'd like to se so rich that I'd be unable to spot that my bank account had 10 months of extra money in it I was planning to pay as rent.

LunaHound wrote:
As my family is divorced , father is none resident of Canada . because of that, each month we have to pay $200 fine for living
in the house. As well as we have to still pay for property tax each year ( $11,000 ) , add those 2 together, $1160 per month gone.

Please help me understand Luna what is the 200.00 dollars for exactly?
Is the nonresident status a choice?

jp400 wrote:
I also wish that the government would bulldoze every last building in every shantytown/ghetto/trailor Park. Dont want to be homeless? Upkeep your building and dont turn it into a drug slum.

Nice.

So what then would you propose to do about the (millions of) homeless?

thats exactly what san francisco did
then they all came to my town
thats the same year that all the gangbangers came to my highschool

Okay. There is light to be shed. It gets Sicarius now.

LunaHound wrote:
Refugees :

Receives welfare of $900 per month , $ 300 per child per month. No tax , lives in free government housing.
Free education , free local college.

The Government is REQUIRED BY INTERNATIONAL LAW to give that money to refugees. However, it is just the money that they get. Nothing else. They CAN get scholarships, the money is just so they survive. Most refugees can't speak a WORD of English, so the Gov't gives them education to LEARN English so they can get a job. It costs a lot more than $900 to live with decent food and shelter.

LunaHound wrote:Now , i pass by the area daily and what do i see , i see some shops they open supposed to be (clothing store)
but instead, we see 10-20 jackets hang randomly , and nothing else BUT smell of marijuanna.

That's a huge stereotype. They escape their countries to LIVE and not be tortured and executed in horrifying ways. Not to get high. That smell of marijuana might explain something about your neighborhood. Not trying to be personal!

LunaHound wrote:By now, everyone knows they are just pot sellers ( the whole block's buisness are drugs / prostitution etc etc )

No. You THINK they are pot sellers. I explained earlier that they escaped to survive. People make jokes all the time about Cubans coming to Canada to sell crack. It's easy money if you can get away with it, so why blame them? They're not even refugees! It's not like people born in Canada don't end up selling pot themselves.

LunaHound wrote:While waiting for bus, i see a refugee with 5 children , we end up chatting. I said " wow it must be hard taking care of so many"

the refugee replied " girl , the government pays ME , the more children i have, the more i get from government each month "

There is a good reason for that. Children, food, shelter, and clothing as a whole costs a hell of a lot of money. That woman probably mis-worded what she meant, the Gov't doesn't PAY her, but HELP her. She probably didn't know that much English at the time. If YOU had 5 children, you'd be getting money too. EVERY person in Canada with a child under 18 gets money from the Gov't.

LunaHound wrote:So yes, now im mad . How hard i work and it goes to pay for something like this.

If you lived in Canada for most of your life, you would think that. If you came from a war-torn country for salvation, you would be thankful with a feeling of safety. That's what you NEED after escaping a country where death and destruction rule over.

LunaHound wrote:This is justice? this is fair?

Indeed it is. Truth hurts, don't it?

LunaHound wrote:*** you canada government.

Yes, our Gov't saves people so it must really suck, right?

People will never be happy until THEY get what THEY want without thought of others. That's how life is. If Russia were to declare war on the United States, YOU would be running too. YOU would likely run to either Britain or the States because Canada would be the battleground (since it's halfway between the two countries).

Of course, there is the possibility that you are mistaking refugees for immigrants, which are completely different from one another.

No YOU are stereotyping assuming i dont know whats going on in that area. EVERYONE in my city know whats going on in that area . How dare you claim i dont know and im just stereo typing.

The government gave them a new chance a new life in Canada to start. They dont use the opportunity to make something out of themselves, instead abuses the system.

Truth hurts? no your comprehension does hurt my brain cells .

Read exactly what i type and stop trying to twist my words.

Where in Canada do you live? if you live in Vancouver area i can point exactly where im talking about just so you can shut up and think i know nothing about their situation.

efarrer wrote:

LunaHound wrote:
As my family is divorced , father is none resident of Canada . because of that, each month we have to pay $200 fine for living
in the house. As well as we have to still pay for property tax each year ( $11,000 ) , add those 2 together, $1160 per month gone.

Please help me understand Luna what is the 200.00 dollars for exactly?
Is the nonresident status a choice?

The $200 is in some sort of ratio with us renting out the house ( to my cousin)
so basically he pays us, we receieve some sort of income, and we have to pay the government penalties

Because right now the house while half belongs to my mom ,yet the ownership belongs to my dad. Which his citizenship expired long ago.
None resident choice status..... he would of course perfer not to lose it. However, it was his choice to never come back to canada ( divorce )

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:

LunaHound wrote:This is justice? this is fair?

Indeed it is. Truth hurts, don't it?

it isnt fair
y,now why
they go to his/her country and get free stuuf basically and they repay them by turning it into a shithole where drugs and prosttution run rampant
how bout this for a law "if you come to a country you have to get a F***ing job"
god and people wonder why the economy is gak

efarrer wrote:

jp400 wrote:
I also wish that the government would bulldoze every last building in every shantytown/ghetto/trailor Park. Dont want to be homeless? Upkeep your building and dont turn it into a drug slum.

Nice.

So what then would you propose to do about the (millions of) homeless?

Simple, they can become a productive and positive member of a community and do something worthwhile.... Or starve/die.

I honestly could care less about the gang bangers, illegals, meth heads, and other oxygen thiefs that plague this country. I feel that our government has grown so soft that warm butter is harder then they are. Most of this would be solved if our Police were better funded and were allowed a firmer hand when dealing with these idiots.

I mean seriously, who the feth was the idiot that decided to allow illegals to get drivers licenses, Stimulas Checks, free health care, and the right to vote or even hold a fething job here in this country? Oh right, the families of the illegals who are also illegal complained to the white house and like the spikeless freakshow that is our government we bend over backwards for them.

Oh and Mexico, we will stop shipping guns to your country when you stop shipping your unwanted non-english speaking hordes to ours.

Gah!

And the Gangers complain when the law cracks down on them cause in there eyes, Being part of a fething gang is "culture". We yeah bacteria is also a culture yet millions of people scrub away every day trying to eradicate it.


We should do the same with the gangs......

Lets look at it this way.

How much does an average family spend?

Tax, food , morgage , property / income tax , utilities ( all the bare minimum )

The refugees? all covered. Now if they all have LEGAL jobs , i have absolutely no problem with helping them.

BUT if the parents arnt grateful enough to do something legal from the money they drain from the system
what make you thinnk the 5 children for example raised by them under the same ideas are going to grow up any better?
If not repeat the same problems?

Multiply them generation after generation how much money do you think tax payers have to feed this?

This is also just the tip of an iceberg .


*EDIT

@ the guy that just doesnt seem to get it

You wouldnt even know it if you catch someone reaching into your pocket for your wallet.
Bet you think they are giving you a free hand job?

To be fair I'm sure 90% of all refugees/Immigrants to any country do work their arse off and end up providing a net contribution to their new home. its just the other 10% that give them a bad name. About the same ratio that you'll find in the native population in my experience.

Lazy scumbags are Lazy scumbags whether them be a refugee or not.

Working or not, if your here illegally you need to GTFO!

If you have a green card welcome to your new home!

http://www.theamericanresistance.com/ref/illegal_alien_numbers.html

40 million illegals in the US and growing.....

You know, some in europe think that we're barbaric and hypocritical for wanting to kick illegal aliens out.

There was a case where a man raped a woman, there were witnesses and strong evidence against him but the case was thrown out because he couldn't speak english, came from a small tribe in africa(could find no translator), and based on that he couldn't get a fair trial. This was against his right to get said fair trial. We should have an english speaking clause or something in the constitution.

@Luna
That actually does sound like total garbage. The truth is, the refugees were born in a war torn country so why should they not handle the situation and leave while we handle the situation and give them money?

Work hard, thousands on welfare depend on you.

RAAAR. Stupid reffuges fleeing war. Stupid Immagrants looking for a better life. Stupid minorities and other poor people, having tosell thier body because the have no skills no hope and no future. Oh and most importantly, stupid gangbangers, who grow up in a hell hole in a place with gakky schools and no jobs. Going out in the Streets every night hoping to sell 50 dollars of pot to some frat guys and not get killed by an Big cartel, beat silly by cops or robbed by custemers. And yep they spend it on shoes clothing and fansy cars, it's the only way they garner respect from thier peers andthe outside world. Whatelse are they going to do? Save up move out and then what? Sure there are most who go to thier crappy schools, graduate, don't make enough money at burger king to cover a sick kid, dying parent, or other trama. What do you do? You can't get a loan. Your crappy job doesnt have health insurance, your parents are as poor as you are. You do what you have toto survive. You sell the only things the people with the money want to buy from you, drugs or your very body.

I find it funny how people on top can complain about their, oh so heavy, burdens of a few tax dollars that are killing them when they don't know CRAP about true misery or suffering. When your parents die from a treatable disease because the city mill they worked at didn't give insurance, or watch your kids suffer because your crappy job doesn't have insurance. To know thatyour grandparents were poor, your parents were poor, you're poor, and your kids will be poor. Hell everybody around you is poor. All of your family tree is poor. And when you plead for help, you are scorned, threatened to be sterilized, bulldozed. Your music, culture, dress style, way of speaking and even your features, are mocked. You are blamed for all of society's ills. All you see are 3 ways to sucsess, Rapping, sports, or illegal drug, prostitution sells. Better hope you have a good grasp of the English language or at least a football.

I don't mind though, It's the well to do people who complain about taxes and go out on the weekends to buy coke the snort off a hooker's rear end.

It's a cycle thats refered to as "the game" or "the trap" Nobody hardly ever retires from prostitution or drug dealing, and so veryfew realise the dream of "Making it out of the hood." Try ling your life knowing you'll be dead by thirty Either by a brutal rape/murder if your a prostitute, or by a mob hitman, cop, custumer, rival, robber, if your a seller. You have no past, no future, no family, no friends, nothing. All you have is the dread that's always there, that this night could be your last. You know a cold vionlent lonely death is all you have to look forward to. That's real suffering, ad unending misery. The $200 bucks a year you lose in taxes isn't SH@$.

Interesting point. In Britain the percentage of immigrants living off benefits is massively below the percentage of the native populace.

sexiest_hero wrote:RAAAR. Stupid reffuges fleeing war. Stupid Immagrants looking for a better life. Stupid minorities and other poor people, having tosell thier body because the have no skills no hope and no future. Oh and most importantly, stupid gangbangers, who grow up in a hell hole in a place with gakky schools and no jobs. Going out in the Streets every night hoping to sell 50 dollars of pot to some frat guys and not get killed by an Big cartel, beat silly by cops or robbed by custemers. And yep they spend it on shoes clothing and fansy cars, it's the only way they garner respect from thier peers andthe outside world. Whatelse are they going to do? Save up move out and then what? Sure there are most who go to thier crappy schools, graduate, don't make enough money at burger king to cover a sick kid, dying parent, or other trama. What do you do? You can't get a loan. Your crappy job doesnt have health insurance, your parents are as poor as you are. You do what you have toto survive. You sell the only things the people with the money want to buy from you, drugs or your very body.

I find it funny how people on top can complain about their, oh so heavy, burdens of a few tax dollars that are killing them when they don't know CRAP about true misery or suffering. When your parents die from a treatable disease because the city mill they worked at didn't give insurance, or watch your kids suffer because your crappy job doesn't have insurance. To know thatyour grandparents were poor, your parents were poor, you're poor, and your kids will be poor. Hell everybody around you is poor. All of your family tree is poor. And when you plead for help, you are scorned, threatened to be sterilized, bulldozed. Your music, culture, dress style, way of speaking and even your features, are mocked. You are blamed for all of society's ills. All you see are 3 ways to sucsess, Rapping, sports, or illegal drug, prostitution sells. Better hope you have a good grasp of the English language or at least a football.

I don't mind though, It's the well to do people who complain about taxes and go out on the weekends to buy coke the snort off a hooker's rear end.

It's a cycle thats refered to as "the game" or "the trap" Nobody hardly ever retires from prostitution or drug dealing, and so veryfew realise the dream of "Making it out of the hood." Try ling your life knowing you'll be dead by thirty Either by a brutal rape/murder if your a prostitute, or by a mob hitman, cop, custumer, rival, robber, if your a seller. You have no past, no future, no family, no friends, nothing. All you have is the dread that's always there, that this night could be your last. You know a cold vionlent lonely death is all you have to look forward to. That's real suffering, ad unending misery. The $200 bucks a year you lose in taxes isn't SH@$.

Haha , nice and long i'l sum it up for you.

"bad choices"

Too many childrens to feed? use a stupid condom , so the stupidity wont spread
Buy fancy car and blings to get respect from your peers? haha pathetic
Their life expectancy is 39?ok?, just dont drag others into it.

You know sexiest_hero , listening to gansta rap trying to justifying their doing can only make sense to their fellow pot smokers thats
high beyond any basic comprehension.

I hope you realize something hero , the way the current system is going , and how we are all supposed to play saints?
It will not be able to keep up exponentially with feeding the lazy. Oh wait, it already couldnt.

And let me just say this... if Mexicans can cross border , live in USA, STEAL american Jobs
why the ************************ make you think an american born in the getto cannot do the same.
I'll tell you why, its the trash " Get rich doing illegal things or die trying" thats killing them
NOTHING ELSE. bad choices simple as that.

LunaHound wrote:

sexiest_hero wrote:RAAAR. Stupid reffuges fleeing war. Stupid Immagrants looking for a better life. Stupid minorities and other poor people, having tosell thier body because the have no skills no hope and no future. Oh and most importantly, stupid gangbangers, who grow up in a hell hole in a place with gakky schools and no jobs. Going out in the Streets every night hoping to sell 50 dollars of pot to some frat guys and not get killed by an Big cartel, beat silly by cops or robbed by custemers. And yep they spend it on shoes clothing and fansy cars, it's the only way they garner respect from thier peers andthe outside world. Whatelse are they going to do? Save up move out and then what? Sure there are most who go to thier crappy schools, graduate, don't make enough money at burger king to cover a sick kid, dying parent, or other trama. What do you do? You can't get a loan. Your crappy job doesnt have health insurance, your parents are as poor as you are. You do what you have toto survive. You sell the only things the people with the money want to buy from you, drugs or your very body.

I find it funny how people on top can complain about their, oh so heavy, burdens of a few tax dollars that are killing them when they don't know CRAP about true misery or suffering. When your parents die from a treatable disease because the city mill they worked at didn't give insurance, or watch your kids suffer because your crappy job doesn't have insurance. To know thatyour grandparents were poor, your parents were poor, you're poor, and your kids will be poor. Hell everybody around you is poor. All of your family tree is poor. And when you plead for help, you are scorned, threatened to be sterilized, bulldozed. Your music, culture, dress style, way of speaking and even your features, are mocked. You are blamed for all of society's ills. All you see are 3 ways to sucsess, Rapping, sports, or illegal drug, prostitution sells. Better hope you have a good grasp of the English language or at least a football.

I don't mind though, It's the well to do people who complain about taxes and go out on the weekends to buy coke the snort off a hooker's rear end.

It's a cycle thats refered to as "the game" or "the trap" Nobody hardly ever retires from prostitution or drug dealing, and so veryfew realise the dream of "Making it out of the hood." Try ling your life knowing you'll be dead by thirty Either by a brutal rape/murder if your a prostitute, or by a mob hitman, cop, custumer, rival, robber, if your a seller. You have no past, no future, no family, no friends, nothing. All you have is the dread that's always there, that this night could be your last. You know a cold vionlent lonely death is all you have to look forward to. That's real suffering, ad unending misery. The $200 bucks a year you lose in taxes isn't SH@$.

Haha , nice and long i'l sum it up for you.

"bad choices"

Too many childrens to feed? use a stupid condom , so the stupidity wont spread
Buy fancy car and blings to get respect from your peers? haha pathetic
Their life expectancy is 39?ok?, just dont drag others into it.

You know sexiest_hero , listening to gansta rap trying to justifying their doing can only make sense to their fellow pot smokers thats
high beyond any basic comprehension.

I hope you realize something hero , the way the current system is going , and how we are all supposed to play saints?
It will not be able to keep up exponentially with feeding the lazy. Oh wait, it already couldnt.

And let me just say this... if Mexicans can cross border , live in USA, STEAL american Jobs
why the ************************ make you think an american born in the getto cannot do the same.
I'll tell you why, its the trash " Get rich doing illegal things or die trying" thats killing them
NOTHING ELSE. bad choices simple as that.

let me ad to that.
they can get out of the ghetto any time they want. they have legs dont they
y,know there are alot of jobs out there that have GREAT health insurance that require little experiance
take me mom for example? she work at a returant supply store and she has good health insurance
or how about a trucker or well theres alot of them out there like that
whats stopping them? laziness and blaming it on "THE MAN"

Yep, ok let's use your example.

So Bob walks out of the ghetto. He is now homeless as he can't afford the higher rent in other areas. He applies for a job. On the application it says 'Address'. Application denied.

It really isn't as simple as walking out of the ghetto and getting a job, otherwise everyone would do it. Do you really think people enjoy living in poverty?

Greebynog wrote:Yep, ok let's use your example.

So Bob walks out of the ghetto. He is now homeless as he can't afford the higher rent in other areas. He applies for a job. On the application it says 'Address'. Application denied.

It really isn't as simple as walking out of the ghetto and getting a job, otherwise everyone would do it. Do you really think people enjoy living in poverty?

Then how does Mexican do it on such scale that the American workers felt enough impact to hold strikes?

Luna, volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. You badly need the life experience.

where i live its easy for homeless people to get again
GREAT JOBS that pay alot
and he could have well y,know do better in school if he wanted to get him and his kids out of the ghetto
or he could have saved up money instead of duying nice shoes or fancy cars inorder to pay some rent to live
atleast for 2 months
let me reiterate
BAD CHOICES!!!!

BloodofOrks wrote:Luna, volunteer at a soup kitchen or homeless shelter. You badly need the life experience.

Im not saying poverty doesnt exist no.

Im saying people arnt holding themselves responsible , and let their bad choices
get away with simple excuses.


So can someone explain how does mexicans that jumped fence managed to do
all the things someone from ghetto cant ? *edit Please someone answer this?

I assume you meant reiterate when you wrote illiterate, how ironic.

And where do you live that it's easy for homeless people to get great jobs? It's not like that in South East London.

The way you and Luna are talking garret, I assume you've always lived comparitively comfortable lives, is this correct?

my bad
no i always havnt
there was a time when my mom didnt have money and i lived with my grand parents
my cousin is trying to get out of the ghetto right know
its hard but its not impossible
she is actually trying unlike other
atleast she know it her own fault
also i dont need you reminding me about my bad laguage skills
i get teased enogh about it at school
edit: i live in concord,ca

Greebynog wrote:I assume you meant reiterate when you wrote illiterate, how ironic.

And where do you live that it's easy for homeless people to get great jobs? It's not like that in South East London.

The way you and Luna are talking garret, I assume you've always lived comparitively comfortable lives, is this correct?

Thats by far incorrect . Im the only one in my house that works. I alone pay for property taxes
that doesnt belong to me , i alone pays for all the penalties. Though atm i do live in the house for free ( belongs to father that divorced),
it still totals to $1160 a month i have to pay MYSELF .

*Points
Not everyone raised in a bad position should always end up to crime related choices.
Look at me and my choices.

Allow me to share with you the story of Roy, a homeless man I knew back when I volunteered at the Church of the Immaculate Conception's soup kitchen.

Roy used to work at an insurance company. Roy had no siblings and both his parents had passed on. One day while Roy was cooking breakfast the gas in his apartment went out. He spent an hour looking for the building superintendent and when he found him it turned out they were doing work on a neigbor's apartment and had turned of Roy's gas by mistake. Already late for work, Roy told them to turn his gas back on and went to his job. When he arrived home, his apartment had burned down. Now this was a huge problem for Roy as Roy was an epileptic and his medication was in his apartment and he had forgotten to take it before he left for work. Roy had no close friends so he stayed at a men's shelter that night but was assaulted by another man at the shelter and fled, leaving his belongings and importantly, his ID. That night Roy had a seizure and ended up in a coma. When Roy got out of the hospital, his savings were gone, eaten up by his medical bills. He had lost his job as he had no ID when he was hospitalized so no one had contacted his employer. So Roy ended up homeless.

Some people make poor decisions, others get screwed by circumstances outside of their control. Being born into a poor family in a bad neighborhood screws people over. That is why we have a social safety net to allow those who are willing and able to rebuild their lives after some tragedy or poor choice screws it up. If we did nothing everyone would pay the cost through higher crime, street violence etc.

Also the reason illegal immigrants find jobs (or used to before the economy went to hell) is often because the people who employ them pay them as little as they can manage, force them to work 10-12 hours at a time, give them no benefits and can threaten to have them deported if they cause trouble. In other words they can get jobs because the situation they come from is so desperate that being treated like slaves is a step up for many of these people so long as they can send money home to their wives and kids. The reason some groups of illegal immigrants are organizing strikes is that in many cases they are so abused that the risk of deportation is worth the possibility of improving the working conditions for themselves and others.

bloodoforks im pretty sure you know im talking about the people that abuses the system not people like Roy you just described.

When it comes down to Mexican situation you just discribed , yep thats pretty much it. So it all comes down to again...

choices. Get rich and die trying right? ghetto's way

*edit , and see there obviously is a problem here.
here we are talking about the people that abuses the systems , and we end up
having discussing about Roy that obviously deserve aid from the system.

When can we as humanity weed out and force the abusers to take their responsibility?

Of course not Luna, that's something of a truism.

And garrett, I wasn't trying to mock you, please take no offence.

I would say however, that you two do have comparitevly comfortable lives. Garrett, you had grandparents you could turn to in times of need, and Luna, were you raised in 'the ghetto'? Did you goto school there? Have your family always lived in poverty? Seeing as both of you can afford a hobby as expensive as Warhammer, you really can't be that badly off.

An example for you, annecdotal sure, but a good one. There is a homeless bloke in New Cross (SE London, where I live) that has been homeless and begging in the same spot for the entire time I have lived here (about three years). I say hi to him every day, and give him any spare change, and if I have time, I stop for a cigarette and a chat. About four years ago he was made homeless suddenly due to a truely horriffic event in his personal life. Broke and traumatised he turned to drink. After around two years he stopped drinking and tried to sort his life out. The only accomodation he could get was a squat (no references for landlords, no deposit), from which he applied for jobs too numerous to mention. With no qualifications, a huge gap in his CV, no decent clothes to wear to interviews etc he was turned down for everyone. Then the council got an eviction order, back o the streets for Dave. The house stands empty to this day by the way. Now he's back to square one, no address to put on job applications, no money, no prospects. He desperately wants to help himself, but is hamstrung at every opportunity, and is constantly harrassed by the police, often being arrested and held for hours at a time before being realeased with no charge, never being told why what he had done wrong.

I'd love you to meet him and tell him to just go get a job.

Edit: too slow.

Allow me to clarify: I don't care if people abuse the system. If the government does not help these people with their living expenses then they either turn to crime or become homeless and then we have to deal with that. Bread and circuses Luna. If someone wants to live on the bottom rung of society because they don't want to get a job then I don't care. The burden of paying for abusers is small. Is it fair? No. But the risk of cutting off people who are actually trying to better their lives is more of a threat then allowing a few squatters to leech off the system.

I'll throw another argument for social benefits out there for those cold-nosed fiscal conservatives amongst you. In a time of recession, higher tax on things like savings and income taxes for high earners, spent directly on benefits, can have the effect of boosting the economy. Rather than having money sat about in people's accounts, people are spending it, which promotes economic growth.