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Leading by example.
Nicely done Panic. They sure look nice

yakface wrote:
I understand that Chaos Legions are a vital part of the Chaos mythos but they really need to develop the 'idea' of the Chaos army beyond the CSM legions and Daemons. And I'm not talking about just adding a LatD army list to the game.

IMHO, a "Chaos" codex should allow players to field a full (mortal) army of Chaos. Yes, you should be able to play a purely CSM army if you want, but these guys should really be few and far between in the galaxy, even less than regular SMs as they don't have enough new recruits (or the tech) to replenish their losses (even including new SM elements that go renegade). The 'typical' Chaos army should include a few CSMs that are super bad-ass (as they've lived for thousands of years and are powered by Chaos as well) flanked by crazy cultists and mutants and backed up obscenely cool Daemon engines like those Forgeworld is finally putting out.

FTW

Panic wrote:
QFT

yeah,
And the only real way to support this new direction is to vote with your wallets.

Shopping CartREF DESCRIPTION QUANTITY Price: COST
IA-CSM-T-002 ***** NURGLE BLIGHT DRONE ***** 3
£34.25 £102.75
Subtotal £102.75
Shipping (First Class Post) £12.33
Total £115.08

Can't wait till i get my flies!

Panic

Good work sir!

If I owned any Chaos armies I would totally buy a bunch of those models as well.

You know those drones have just enough wacky looking gun barrels on the front to perfectly fit as 'counts-as' Obliterators! If some Nurgle player had a bunch of those as his obliterators I would somehow feel so much better when playing against him even as I got my butt handed to me.

Man, even with the bad pound-euro exchange rate, these things are friggin' expensive.

But man, do they look cool, or what

yeah,
Yak, they are a bit big for obliterators, bigger than a deadnought.

I'll try using them as is,in friendly games.
Doesn't seem broken the 125pt rumoured price for the drones gets you a fast skimmer 12/10/10 with a maw canon with phlem and tonuge. I think that a cool kit bash could be the drones or the bloodslaughter and a defiler kit bashed together a cool defiler/soul grinder.

Edit: In the 360 preveiws, check out the ass chain thong on the new DaemonPrince

Moopy wrote:... A 360 degree view is also available HERE

Panic...

yakface wrote:IMHO, a "Chaos" codex should allow players to field a full (mortal) army of Chaos. Yes, you should be able to play a purely CSM army if you want, but these guys should really be few and far between in the galaxy, even less than regular SMs as they don't have enough new recruits (or the tech) to replenish their losses (even including new SM elements that go renegade).

Didn't you get the memo? Space marines go renegade ALL the time. In fact it's like their 3rd favorite thing in the universe to do after 1) flipping out and 2) screaming baldly. So there's like totally super lots of renegade chaos space marines, even more than renegade guardsmen (since guardsmen like to do other stuff like go on dates with girls, going renegade is way down on their list of favorite things to do and that's why they only go renegade if there's an Apocalypse).

I think you are missing the whole point of Chaos. Chaos exists solely to allow GW to sell another space marine army. Making them "different" eliminates their whole purpose for being! Here's the Chaos Design Concept:

1. Take existing best-selling space marine army (easy).
2. Add spikes (easy).
3. New army!

Perhaps you're familiar with the Space Wolves Design Concept or the Blood Angels Design Concept? Well the Chaos Design Concept is very similar. They are all variations of the same fundamental concept underlying like 90% of GW's "ideas".

yakface wrote:


Good work sir!

If I owned any Chaos armies I would totally buy a bunch of those models as well.

You know those drones have just enough wacky looking gun barrels on the front to perfectly fit as 'counts-as' Obliterators! If some Nurgle player had a bunch of those as his obliterators I would somehow feel so much better when playing against him even as I got my butt handed to me.

You, my man, are a friggin genius.

I will also be ordering some of these next time my buddy and I order for this reason. They would work so well as Oblits!

Abadabadoobaddon wrote:
Didn't you get the memo? Space marines go renegade ALL the time. In fact it's like their 3rd favorite thing in the universe to do after 1) flipping out and 2) screaming baldly. So there's like totally super lots of renegade chaos space marines, even more than renegade guardsmen (since guardsmen like to do other stuff like go on dates with girls, going renegade is way down on their list of favorite things to do and that's why they only go renegade if there's an Apocalypse).

I think I need a new sig.

I love the Daemon Prince model, just wish it had more pants.

My card was charged. My Blood Slaughterer and DP are inbound

I'm waiting for the blight drones in plastic in 2025. I'll be getting them for son's 10th birthday.

I was going to argue against the newer look to FW chaos, especially the khorne stuff.

But Yakface made a damned fine arguement and has swung me.

Lost and the damned should be the next 'new' army.

yeah,
rumors over on BOLS

Nurgle Blight Drone: 125 Points
Fast, Skimmer
Front:12 Side:11 Rear:10
BS:2

WEAPONS
Maw Cannon
-Vomit: S:6 AP:4 Assault 1, Template
-Phlegm: 36" S:8 AP:4 Assault 1, Large Blast

Reaper Autocannon: 36" S:7 AP:4 Heavy 2, Twin-linked

Special Rule
Treat all Destroyed "Wrecked" results as Destroyed "Explode"

I can't wait for these!!!
BS:2 is a little disappointing.
But The main weapons are blast/template and reaper antocannon's twin linked..
So thinking about it I don't think it's actually that bad.
Plus It's a fast skimmer so it can move up to 12" and still fire the maw cannon!
Infantry won't want to be taking these out in hand to hand combat knowing that they Pop!

I like these stats, they don't seem under/over powered/costed.
Can anyone confirm these stats, or have a link the data sheet?
It would be awesome if they can be taken in squadrons!

One of the things I always thought forge world should do is provide data sheets with their products.
Having to buy a whole Imperial Armour book to get the rules for one unit must harm sales?

Panic...

It's overpriced in the usual FW manner. There are better things for 125. It's not terrible, but the BS2 does hamper it (good thing it has a template weapon).

Honeslty for 100 flat these things would be worthwhile and fun, rather than what they are currently now which is just fun (and kinda gross... but that's Nurgle for you!).

yeah,
But concidering a tooled up landspeeder is about 100pts, and it's 10/10/10.

I think 125pts for a tooled up 12/11/10 FastSkimmer is possibly cheap?

Plus Nurgle has very little by way of fast attack...

Panic...

I think they are an awesome addition to a nurgle army. The maw cannon and 12 armor makes it a pretty cheap addition to the army and isnt it a fast attack slot? Thats something that nurgle was lacking in with a choice.

WOAH, that Nurgle thing's weird! Especially in the diorama where it stays aloft by crapping profusely

Panic wrote:But concidering a tooled up landspeeder is about 100pts, and it's 10/10/10.

And has considerably better weapons. And is smaller.

yeah,
I got my BlightDrones in the post today.
They are awesome up close / In Real Life.
Can't wait to make these, but i think i'll use them as motovation to get my obliterators done first...

Panic...

Clang wrote:The Blood Slaughterer would also make a great alternate SoulGrinder or Defiler with a little conversion - although I can't be sure how big it is - apparently a little smaller than a SoulGrinder or Defiler?

I put one of my Dreadnoughts between my 3 Soul Grinders and unfortunately the Dread is just over half the size of a Soul Grinder so it would probably be a bit small for a count as Soul Grinder