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garret wrote:well to bad because space wolf are getting theres next.
niner,niner,niner,

Congratulations, you're the first person I've ever had the pleasure of using the "Ignore" feature on.

Gwar! wrote:Space Puppies FTW!

Interesting Note: Space Puppies are the Oldest Codex in Use, Being Printed in April of 2000, the next being Necrons, then Daemonhunters and ONLY then Dark Eldar.
Sauce:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Codex_%28Warhammer_40,000%29
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Warhammer_40%2C000_Current_Rulebooks

This being the case, I would say (order of preferred release)

1. Space wolves
2. Necrons
3. Inquisition
4. Dark Eldar
5. Tyranids
6. Tau
7. Angels of death (blood/dark angels)
8. CSM

Sidstyler wrote:

garret wrote:well to bad because space wolf are getting theres next.
niner,niner,niner,

Congratulations, you're the first person I've ever had the pleasure of using the "Ignore" feature on.

As much as I know the mods will hammer me for this, I suggest you (that is Sidstyler) follow my 4 Step Program™(Pat. Pen.):
Step 1) Unclench
Step 2) Let the Rod Fall out
Step 3) ...
Step 4) PROFIT!

@Dracos: I'm taking a guess but would that be in order of "Who has the oldest to newest"?

1. Necrons
2. Dark Eldar
3. Tau
4. Chaos Legions
5. Chaos Renegade
6. All Space marine codexs AT ONCE
7. A good Necron codex
8. Eldar

I agree with the Dark Eldar, Tau And Necrons
there all in serious need of updates now

No, the Tau do not need an Upgrade.

Why?

Because they are an Unwanted, Unneeded race who have gotten 2 codexes while Armies deserving of Updates (Dark Eldar, Necrons, Inquisition etc) have been left wanting

1. Codex Humanoid Xenos scum (Dark Eldar, Craftworld Eldar, Corsair Eldar, and even the silly Exodites, and Tau)
2. Codex Mindless Xenos Scum. (Necrons, Tyranids, and Orks.)
5. Codex Adeptus Astartes (stick all the funny colors in one book)
6. Chaos Codex of doom!!! (all they really have to do is throw out the current codex and reinstate the last one.)
7. Codex Emperor Loving freaks (IG, DH, WH)

That should cover it.

7? Are you mad? We should just have 1 Book, with all the Army lists in it.

I am sure nothing like that has ever been tried...

Oh wait, 3rd edition!

Looks like they decided not to go that route.

Necrons definatly need a face lift with our units being updated and hopefully with a few more on the way. WE really just need to have alot more variaty and options.

Gwar! wrote:@Dracos: I'm taking a guess but would that be in order of "Who has the oldest to newest"?

Essentially. 5+ years with no update is pretty ridiculous. Everyone should get a turn to be the New Hotness.

Dracos wrote:

Gwar! wrote:@Dracos: I'm taking a guess but would that be in order of "Who has the oldest to newest"?

Essentially. 5+ years with no update is pretty ridiculous. Everyone should get a turn to be the New Hotness.

Years without a new FAQ is even worse.

GW need to take a page from WotC and update their Errata and FAQ's every 3 to 6 months. There is No excuse for them not to, they are just being lazy. If Yakface and co can make the INAT FAQ in their spare time, 1 dude with a Dakka Account and a Marker being paid to could fix it up in about 2 weeks

Very true. I used to play MTG, but stopped a couple years ago.

Their rules support is light years ahead of GW.

This is what should happen:

1. Dark Eldar

2. Necrons

3. Tyranids

4. Ordo Xenos

5. Codex cults: LATD, Genestealer cults, etc.

6. New alien race

7. Codex: Adeptus Mechanicus

8. Codex:Ecclessiarchy


This is the reality of what will happen:

1. Tyranids

2. Necrons

3. Some space marine variant

4. Space marines

5. New Rules edition

5. Space Marines

6. Some space marine Variant

7. Dark Eldar

8. Some space marine variant

9. New rules edition

10. Space marines...


You get the idea...

I didn't hear a Hurr! in there!

Give the Governor a Hurr!

Okay call me a n00b, but I am unfamiliar with what exactly Ordo Xenos, Adeptus Mechanicus, and Ecclessiarchy would be.

Anyone want to fluff me up?

Ordo Xenos: Deathwatch (In a Word)
Adeptus Mechanicus: Some sort of Genetically Engineered Super Soldiers... Oh Wait... Oh Perhaps more Bionically Enhanced Super Soldiers then
Ecclessiarchy: Sisters of Battle.

Gwar! wrote:Ordo Xenos: Deathwatch (In a Word)
Adeptus Mechanicus: Some sort of Genetically Engineered Super Soldiers... Oh Wait... Oh Perhaps more Bionically Enhanced Super Soldiers then
Ecclessiarchy: Sisters of Battle.

More specifically i'd like to see Codex: Ecclessiarchy becasue I think the whole religious zealotry side of thr Imperial faithful is so core to Imperial/40k fluff and makes for good modelling and good game/scenario fluff, etc.

This codex would expand the Eclessiarchy beyond sisters to include HQ choices like Confessors, Missionaries and so forth, have variant load out Penitent engines and arcos, , rabble troops like zealot mobs and fraternis militia, and have the various Ecclessiarchy special characters like Kyrov(sp?), etc. Would make for an awesome army both in fluff, imagery, modeling potential, etc. Of course GW will never do it, it makes too much sense.

Eldar and Dark Eldar codex should be merged together. That way we'd need to read only one book about girly space elves.

It has to be the top to boys Necrons and some new models
and Dark eldar as they are both popular
aso the inquisition need an update and try and get some plastics out there


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Gwar! wrote:No, the Tau do not need an Upgrade.

Why?

Because they are an Unwanted, Unneeded race who have gotten 2 codexes while Armies deserving of Updates (Dark Eldar, Necrons, Inquisition etc) have been left wanting

Thats true i say tau because my brother loves them and a lad i know collects them
but i say on a bombshell its definetly DE and NEcrons and they are too of my fave armies
yet they are so over shadowed
its dissapointing

ABH


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P.S Necrons if are updates next i think should get a couple more troop choices and a couple more tanks pr transports as i think the monolinth is a bit old now and it would be good to see a big tank

ABH

C: AdMech could easily be done in a mini-dex.

Grouping codexes together in a two-fer isn't a half-bad idea. But would they both suck? Would only one be terrible? Would they both power creep their way to the top of the charts?

C: Ecclessiarchy would be fun, but C:WH is already quite competative. Really, just C: DH needs an overhaul. I guess I'm quite terrified of the idea of GW nerfing my Sisters army after I go to all the work to paint it even though all the CC units are unplayable.

Gwar! wrote:

GW need to take a page from WotC and update their Errata and FAQ's every 3 to 6 months. There is No excuse for them not to, they are just being lazy. If Yakface and co can make the INAT FAQ in their spare time, 1 dude with a Dakka Account and a Marker being paid to could fix it up in about 2 weeks

QFT.

I love and hate Space Marines...they are like the village bycycle, everyone gets a ride on them, and not only does everyone get a ride, but the amount of illegitimate offspring brought into the world because of that fact is staggering. And since everyone know it's their children, they are ALL going to be loved.

Anyway more Space Marine BS, Space Wolves are still pretty fing badass, if anything the new codex will nerf them.

This is my List

1# Dark Eldar (I'm sorry, they are about a decade over due)
2# Tau (I say this because 4th edition Tau special abilities mainly revolved around them not needing to take Target Priority..and boom...5th comes out, no more TP)
3# Tyranids (Over due obviously)
4# Necrons (They are relativity new, but they haven't been touched)
5# Something new, I'm saying a new race, something That is small, perhaps a coalition of small mercenaries from across the Galaxy; 40k Dogs of war perhaps?.

Avrik_Shasla wrote:1# Dark Eldar (I'm sorry, they are about a decade over due)
4# Necrons (They are relativity new, but they haven't been touched)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Warhammer_40%2C000_Current_Rulebooks wrote:

Necrons 3rd Edition Necrons Codex July 2002
Dark Eldar 3rd Edition Dark Eldar Codex November 2003

Dracos wrote:

Avrik_Shasla wrote:1# Dark Eldar (I'm sorry, they are about a decade over due)
4# Necrons (They are relativity new, but they haven't been touched)

http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Warhammer_40%2C000_Current_Rulebooks wrote:

Necrons 3rd Edition Necrons Codex July 2002
Dark Eldar 3rd Edition Dark Eldar Codex November 2003

The Second Printing Doesn't really count Dracos you know that

Okay you're right. It did get some new stuff but was basically the same

My friend just told me that putting WH and DH together in the same codex would be like putting IG and Orks together in the same codex because Ork players can loot tanks.

Why are Space Wolves getting a new codex at all? Until i heard that they were getting a new codex, i thought they were just another lost and forgotten variant of Spess MEhreens that no one ever played, sort of like the Praetorian IG.

I recede my earlier statements, DH don't need a new codex at all, but DAMN could the ENTIRE INQUISITION use some plastics! GK and SoB are entirely metal. (I hate metal models. I'm a bigger fan of Forgeworld resins.)

My List.

1. Necrons
2. Dark Eldar
3. Nids
4.Tau
5. Eldar
6. CSM

GW really needs to stay away from Space Marines for a bit once space dogs comes out.

My friend's blog has a pretty funny rant about why Space Marines variants are lame.

http://bloodofkittens.com/?p=705

Tastytaste my sig loves your list.

List time!

I'll go 3x3 for my list(s)...

1. Armies which need Codex updates
1. Space Wolves -- oldest Codex without an update, only Codex requiring another Codex to play
2. Sisters of Battle -- a fully-functional, stand-alone army that never should have been hit with the =I= stick; solves half of the Imperial Allies problem by removing stand-alone Witch Hunter Inquisitors
3. Necrons -- Codex with the most rules problems still in print

2. Armies which will get Codex updates
1. Space Wolves -- and about time!
2. Tyranids -- oldest "major" Codex not to get an update (Eldar, Orks, CSM, SM, IG all done)
3. Blood Angels -- only SM Codex not printed and sold as a Codex

3. Armies which never get another Codex
1. Dark Eldar
2. Squats
3. Pan Fo


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Dracos wrote:Essentially. 5+ years with no update is pretty ridiculous.

Gwar! wrote:Necrons 3rd Edition Necrons Codex July 2002
Dark Eldar 3rd Edition Dark Eldar Codex November 2003

Pfft.

Warhammer Armies: Dogs of War -- 5th Edition WFB -- July 20, 1998

That's right, we're closing in on 11 years of no update.

i think all codexes should be in pdf style. sur that will never happen because they get to much money.
but the reason why.
1. we dont have to pay for it.
2. faster updates to codexes.

DE and Necrons need updates and very soon

ABH