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H.B.M.C. wrote:2nd Ed, where tanks acted like fething tanks and not glass hammers (4th) or 'main battle bunkers' (3rd & 5th).

True that.

I've only been around for a little of 4th and now 5th edition.

If there was a "GW has never gotten it right" option I'd probably have voted for that, though. Honestly I don't like any edition of 40k that much, even 2nd edition which all the neckbeards speak so fondly of.

I think 5th edition is definitely a step up from 3rd and 4th.

RT and 2nd were on somewhat different scales.

Meh. I'm happy enough with 5th, though I'd like to see GW take then next step in 6th.

Already?

4th.

Manchu wrote:Already?

In 3 years time.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Manchu wrote:Already?

In 3 years time.

Ah, now that's change I can believe in. No Emperor resurrection, though.

Definately 5th. I am so glad they got rid of the ability to consolidate into other units. Makes the game so much more fair.

The Psionics in Rogue Trader were awesome. Telekinesis wiping dudes into walls, or picking up Land Raiders. Taking over dudes' brains and having them blast at their own guys. Off table support, the 50" diameter Frag missile of death stopping any eldar army in its tracks.

The big problem was the rampant, over the top cheating. Double barreled Plasma guns. "Guide. Doom" Ratling commandos in Terminator armour...oh, wait that was me.

2nd ed. They nuked the squats. That was lame. Then they decided to paint everything neon red. That was even more lame. I got out of 40K a few years later. I haven't played 4th or 5th, but I've got the book and I'm doing up some Orks. It looks fun, but the nostalgia of Rogue Trader will always remain.

I gotta say, I dont think any edition of 40k has been "good" but 5th has to be my favorite thus far. So, theyre getting better.

I started playing just after the change to 5th ed.

2nd ed because troops and individual tank weapons could target the stuff they were meant to instead of anti infantry shots into tanks, and vice versa. Armour modifiers which had MEQ armies more reasonable, and str coming from certain weapons and banshees at str 5 and -3 to that save roll number made them actually scary.

i came into this hobby in 5th edidion , but i still acaionly(sp?) play Rouge Trader with friends'n'families(not mine though , but my friend has an awesome family , they ALL play 40k and one if his siblings is into Fantasy aswelll)

RT FTW!

2nd edition for me it was where I started, and have to agree on H.B.M.C on the tank side of things

Started with third and like it till 5th or though i havent really played much in that time, And true line of sight is
It makes the game impractical, but the laser makes a cool replacement baneblade cannon.
And yes i prefer yellow trim to gold........

1317 wrote:And yes i prefer yellow trim to gold........

Good stuff!

I'm for 2nd edition. It's where I started, tanks were tanks, terminators were terminators; essentially things that should be scary were truly scary.

Some things were broken, but no system is perfect, and it's better when the company making the game is a gamer's company, and not just another corporate machine after your monies.

The game just felt better back then.

I can see why 5th edition comes out on top for most people since it's easy to play and discourages stationary play.

My favorite though is still 3.5, when there were so many different armies available you couldn't keep track of them all and all of the codeciis were viable. You could play against one space marine chapter, then play the next one and it was a completely different experience. Orks had clans, chaos had legions, IG had doctrines and abhuman choices, Lost and the Damned weren't just imperial guard painted differently, and special characters felt "special" instead of being expected all the time. Citadel Journal was still pumping out rules like the genestealer cult. White Dwarf was something to look forward to. It seemed to be more about the modeling than the sport too.

I miss those days.

Well I started playing recently, but from what Ive seen I have to agree on 5th edition being pretty good!

Cosmic wrote:
The Ultramarines (Second Company) were cooler when they had yellow shoulder pad trims! Anyone agree?

When I came to the hobby, I was horribly surprised that Ultramarines have golden trims. Ive first came to contact with the WH40K universe in like 1997 with the Final Liberation game, and all the marines had yellow trims! So I was pretty confused with Ultramarines having golden trims suddenly with no Company having the yellow trims. Anyways, thanks for clearing it out

I started with RT but had the most fun with the 2nd edtion that is my favorite. I liked the Dark Milenium supplement it added something extra to the game. I didn't play 3rd or 4th editions. I have only played a few games under fifth edtion in nine months since I started playing again. The fifth editon is ok but I haven't given it a yeah or nah yet.

ergotoxin wrote:When I came to the hobby, I was horribly surprised that Ultramarines have golden trims. Ive first came to contact with the WH40K universe in like 1997 with the Final Liberation game, and all the marines had yellow trims! So I was pretty confused with Ultramarines having golden trims suddenly with no Company having the yellow trims. Anyways, thanks for clearing it out

Good man!

I used to say second, but with fifth, especially the wacky unbalanced codexes with their mix of crap units and overpowered god-like destroyers makes the game unpredictable again. I might lose a lot of games because I'm not WAAC/TFG, but I've given some of the tournament nutters at my FLGS a scare now and then, when they were sure my Orks or Plague Marines were just about to overrun them. Then the fickle dice gods smile on them, and there I go. At least this way, It's more interesting them in fourth, where people who'd played against each other so much that they knew each other's tactics, strategies and armies inside and out could predict nine times out of ten who was going to win by who got the first turn.

2ed because of this

warpcrafter wrote:Second edition all the way. You can take your 'true line of sight' and your 'streamlining' and your wound allocation all the other myriad GW brainfarts and stick 'em.

this

CT GAMER wrote:2nd Edition will always be my favorite. Loved the feel of the wargear and strategy cards. It was a gamer's game then.

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H.B.M.C. wrote:2nd Ed, where tanks acted like fething tanks and not glass hammers (4th) or 'main battle bunkers' (3rd & 5th).

And i like to add the sustaind fire dice and were TDA was TDA not the pansy armor it is now.

SWEEPING ADVANCE AND CONSOLIDATE INTO CLOSE COMBAT WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGH!

Rogue Trader. (check the name/avatar)

The first version I played and the best. Its a different game and style of play to 5th (which I'm learning now) and takes more time and dedication (and sheer bloody mindedness to finish a large game).

I see the current version as RT Lite.

I love and hate 1st edition for it's complexity and currently I love 5th edition.

5th for me. Got to say that TLOS is a major improvement IMO. No haggling over what size terrain is- just if you can see it, you can attack it.
I also like the tactical challenge of keeping your troops in a condition to take objectives, and using elites for what they were meant for; killing stuff, not babysitting objectives.
I started in 3rd, and I think one lesson to be learned from it was the diversity of codices and variant armies. Lost and the Damned being a fantastic example- bring 'em back GW.

2nd was too character based for me, 3rd was when they turned it around, made it into a Troop based game. Not keen on some of the changes since then, I play 5th rules, but remember third fondly.