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Its easy enough to knock up some rules for using the set, we did it in about a hour and 2 beers

I was disappointed in the overall size I thought for £30:00 a few more tiles and a bit more variety would have been nice. That said we did go out and buy the warhammer set so we could have a little more variety. So I guess that was what GW wanted us to do.

The kids in our club enjoy the game a lot more now as they can pick and choose who and where to attack and make the tables look (sort of) like the tile they are fighting over and it gives a purpose to the battles. This Christmas will see the crowning of our first Master of War, because of the set.

So from me a to GW

I am modifying some of my tiles to give more variety.

yeah,
I don't see why the hive city wasn't included in the box.
It's the sole reason I didn't buy this.

Panic...

Panic wrote:I don't see why the hive city wasn't included in the box.

Planetary Empires + Separate Hive City Tile = More money for GW.
Planetary Empores w/Hive City Tile = Less money for GW.

More money is so much cooler than less money.

yeah,
But they failed to see that people could see this from a mile off... Dispite the tiles looking good the price was too high and the missing hive tiles was a insult! I decided not to buy Planetary Empires as a stance against this greed. They have less money total now because I didn't buy anything Planetary Empires.

In fact I think the scales of my blind faith in GW are falling from my eyes. Since the blastscape craters I question my purchases alot more these days.

I still love the hobby, but I now question GW's love for it's Customers.

Panic...

I bought Planetary Empires and Mighty Empires and two sets of Hive City.

I am seriously considering another PlanEmp to play around with modifying the tiles. A volcano would make a nice piece, also I think it should be easy to make some superhighway tiles that connect up.

yeah,
@Kill Don't you feel that the hive tiles should have been included in your PE set?
Panic???

Ozymandias wrote:Do they have a strategy card that wipes out your opponent's army like the Virus card in 2nd Ed?

Well, they actually do have a Virus Bomb card but it only affects all units within 12" of a designated point. Still 2d6-T wounds/unit with no armour or cover saves allowed should result in a few deaths.

You can go down ot hobby lobby and spend ten dollars and get more enjoyment out of creating your own "tiles".


Thats just my view ; Planetstrike is cool , planetary empires is kind of gak I mean seriously your buying Hex tiles.


You need a ruler and a sharp knife and some plasticcare to make them


It's going ot be cheaper and yours are going to look ten thousand times better.


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I want Jervis Johnson to quit GW so badly.


Seriously, look at Warhammer Generals now name one product like that for 40k

Panic wrote:yeah,
@Kill Don't you feel that the hive tiles should have been included in your PE set?
Panic???

If they had done that you would get 6 hive cities and six spaceports. These tiles are not double sided, so the total number of tiles would be reduced. Also, the tower pieces of the hive cities would have had to replace some of the facilities pieces on the actual sprues.

So I can see why the hive city wasn't included. I wish it were cheaper, however I can understand why it costs what it does, as the setup for making a small sprue is still a lot and everyone who buys PlanEmp won't necessarily buy a hive city.

One hive city is effectively £2.45, which is a lot cheaper than Devastator Marines, you just hacve to buy them in pairs.


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Hollismason wrote:You can go down ot hobby lobby and spend ten dollars and get more enjoyment out of creating your own "tiles".


Thats just my view ; Planetstrike is cool , planetary empires is kind of gak I mean seriously your buying Hex tiles.


You need a ruler and a sharp knife and some plasticcare to make them


It's going ot be cheaper and yours are going to look ten thousand times better.


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I want Jervis Johnson to quit GW so badly.

Seriously, look at Warhammer Generals now name one product like that for 40k

You're right it would be simple to make your own but it also takes a lot of time which I don't have.

I'm not that fussed about the cost. I make conversions and my own models because it's fun, not primarily to save money.

To be picky, if you want hex tiles and just suck at cutting regular shapes, my friends at dp9 have you covered.

(Although, in fairness, 50 hex bases would be about half the price of the GW set, they're slope-sided and not molded to lock together, and you of course have to detail them yourself... But they're regular hex shapes. I am a corporate whore. )

Balance wrote:To be picky, if you want hex tiles and just suck at cutting regular shapes, my friends at dp9 have you covered.

(Although, in fairness, 50 hex bases would be about half the price of the GW set, they're slope-sided and not molded to lock together, and you of course have to detail them yourself... But they're regular hex shapes. I am a corporate whore. )

Come to think of it, which I do, Litko Aero make nice hex shaped bases in a variety of sizes and materials.

They are so clever at cutting plywood and clear acrylic, they ought to think about producing some kind of scenery items too.

yeah,
each regular PE tile costs £0.60
each PE hive city tile costs £2.50

KillKrazy the point I was making is that GW took the most important tiles and made them a £5 extra. basically GW made a money grab not including this tile and then charging a premium for it...

I honestly don't see why 2 or 4 of hives are not just inculded in the set. If the GW bean counters were unhappy they could have put one less regular sprue in the box. I'd rather have 8 less regular tiles and gain a few hives...

Would you prefer
48 tiles including 6 space ports and zero Hives?
or 42 tile including 5 space ports and 2 hives?

I wanted a PE set, but total cost including the vital hive cities was £40-£45 for a 3d map?! I decided it was bad value, hopefully others did the same and hopefully GW noticed...

Panic...

The thing is the set consists of six identical sprue frames, which is the cheapest configuration of producing the tiles.

If you did a set with a non-even numbered selection of tiles, it would take two different sprues, and the cost would be increased accordingly (I don't know how much. but possibly a lot owing to the cost of moulds.)

The hive cities aren't essential for playing the game. Arguably, any one tile type isn't essential. It should be possible to build a Hive City out of putty on a flat tile, although it means losing the underside of the tile.

GW isn't run for the good of players or employees. Like any public limited company, it is run for the good of shareholders.

I don't think the Hive City tiles would have fit in the PE box. If I remember correctly that thing was packed with sprue.

I just wish there where better rules for PE then the "sample rules" that where included in the box. I'll probably end up making my own set of rules, but it would have been nice to not have too.

Hollismason wrote:You can go down ot hobby lobby and spend ten dollars and get more enjoyment out of creating your own "tiles".


Thats just my view ; Planetstrike is cool , planetary empires is kind of gak I mean seriously your buying Hex tiles.


You need a ruler and a sharp knife and some plasticcare to make them


It's going ot be cheaper and yours are going to look ten thousand times better.

Obviously you haven't seen my cut out hex tiles. And mine wouldn't lock together for easy transport. Nor would they have sculpted detail, nor would they have little holes for flags or other additions. And they'd probably take me hours and frankly my time is worth more than the $50 or $60 this thing costs.

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I want Jervis Johnson to quit GW so badly.


Seriously, look at Warhammer Generals now name one product like that for 40k

That was put out by the US GW team. Don't forget Jervis wrote Blood Bowl and Epic, widely regarded as having great rule sets.

NinjaRay wrote:I don't think the Hive City tiles would have fit in the PE box. If I remember correctly that thing was packed with sprue.

I just wish there where better rules for PE then the "sample rules" that where included in the box. I'll probably end up making my own set of rules, but it would have been nice to not have too.

I'm writing some campaign rules. I'll PM you a copy for comment.

Ozymandias wrote:Don't forget Jervis wrote Blood Bowl and Epic, widely regarded as having great rule sets.

Lies and slander. Those two games were written by God... actually Epic maybe have been written by Jesus... in any case, Jervis had nothing do with them except taking the credit.

He's an evil man who eats tournament gamers for lunch.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Ozymandias wrote:Don't forget Jervis wrote Blood Bowl and Epic, widely regarded as having great rule sets.

Lies and slander. Those two games were written by God... actually Epic maybe have been written by Jesus... in any case, Jervis had nothing do with them except taking the credit.

He's an evil man who eats tournament gamers for lunch.

Regarding BB and Epic. That is probably why he tried and failed, CA and C:CSM, to pull back the options in 40k.
BB is tight because they do not allow the teams to break the rules too much.
I can't speak to Epic, never played it, but the army lists I have read seemed similar.

GW does a better job with the side games, just because they haven't had as many cooks in the kitchen as they seem to in the main games.
I am loving Space Hulk right now. I have found it most fun when you are able to switch sides and play again, just as they suggest n the book.


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The Hive tiles should have been in the box. They could have marketed PE as an expansion to ME, rather than a separate product.

The versatility of the ME tiles with a few more urban tiles would be enough for all but the most industrial planets.

Just look at the variety they created when ME first came out. They even turned some tiles into ocean. Easy enough to customize for urban sprawl I would think.

I would buy the Hive Tiles if I found them in the shop, but ordering items direct just feels odd.

I am still a little pissed about the deathroller sprue being separate, and the complete lack of spare bits on the Battlewagon sprues.

Oooh, extra glyphs, big whoop.