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I tend to get a little angry and edgy when people eye my Elysians a little too much. Sure they may have a crap paint job but they are made of fragile resin. ESPECIALLY THE BARRELS OF MY SNIPER RIFLES.

I thought I didn't have this problem and no one every 'picked up' my models, but then I remembered that as someone who sometimes provides entire armies for people to use, hardly a gaming day or weekend goes by where someone doesn't break something of mine.

It's gotten to the point where it's become a running gag for a few of my friends - they're always breaking my stuff.

At my school they decided to allow warhammer as a Games option (instead of football or hockey) on the first session I was the only person who bought paints AND models, So I lent my Warriors of Minas Tirith to the little kiddies to paint, and also lent out my paints.
half of the models ended irrepairably damaged, or so over painted that there was no detail.

My Graveyard Earth, Elf Flesh and Dark Angels green disappeared (I actually know who took the elf flesh, but he kept on "forgetting" to return it), AND some donkey-cave poured the mithril silver out of the pot over the models.

One guy out of the four I regularly play with has broken a vast amount of my models, to the point that if he touches a breakable mini I go into full ninja mode ready to catch it or slap him about if I fail. You know who you are. |D

God has a funny sense of humour doesn't he. What was he thinking giving gamers, inherently awkward creatures, such fragile things.
I quite often host Necromunda games on a wobbly table where the scenery reaches up to 2ft tall. Needless to say all my gangs are truely knacked.

Too true, I've seen someone holding a Pirhanna in both hands suddenly jerk and fling it across the room. It was ok though.

Don't do GW models I find that non GW models fail to compute in the heads of anybody under the age if 18, so not picked up on their radar

I'm very respectful of other people's models, but I did manage to drop someone's entire army of CSM on the floor once. And drop a heavy plywood board on top of them to boot.

Yeah.

He had finished his game and I was going to move the table away to make room for my own. I just didn't realize that he had suspended the middle of the three 2x4' boards between two smaller tables. For extra irony, I first moved all of his models to this middle board. Then moved the table from underneath it...

Oddly enough very few pieces broke. Some tank hatches, a few arms here and there... needless to say I gave him new bitz for everything that needed fixing, plus 20 NIB Orks (the army he was building at the time) as means of apology.

I think my worst one was this:

I had a homemade carry case (tool box with foam). Thing about it was you had to open in a certain way to prevent all the foam falling out.

My oppoents brother comes in and says "Can I see your DE models?" "Sure I'll get them out the case in a second" "Naw its ok I'll get them..."

Cue Talos 2 Raiders and 6 Jetbikes falling to the floor.
Oh and did I say this was in a kitchen, so i was a TILED floor.

At this point he fled the room.

If they are really young then I tell them they are electric and will shock them if they touch it. They obviously doubt me so cautiously touch the model where I then shout "Bang" in a low loud voice that 99/100 makes them jump.

The poeple around find it funny so I don't get much gripe from the parents and the dads usually find it funny anyhow even if the mum doesn't. The kids usually get the hint that I'm a meanie and isn't interested in my models anymore. Everyones a winner.

As far as adults go I never really get any issues, they always ask if they can have a look at specific models and handle them carefully. I've only ever had things broken when I either haven't glued them correct or used blue tack then testing a new loudout for something or during a actual game.

I am glad to hear I am not the only one that this happens too..

Years ago when I first got into Tau, I had bought a Forge World commander at Games day for my leader. Had him nicely glued together on a flight base. Having never used Tau, A buddy's Cousin (a person I find now very iterating now) told me he had used Tau many times and would team up with me in our game to help me out with the rules. During the game I found he didn't have a clue about the rules, tactics or Tau. Then to end it, when the Commander got killed he went to pick up the model then dropped it, then he dropped it again trying to move it off the table, Told him that was OK, (it wasn't, I was being nice) Then when I was going to pick up the dropped model, he picked up again for a third time, AND HE DROPPED IT AGAIN. This time falling to the floor. That time I yelled "Leave it" like I would yell at my dog. Now I know years later that the guy has a bad case of butterfingers.

This didn't happen to me, but earlier in the year we had a big Apocalypse game on multiple tables at a local Comic Con. Half way through the game there was a kid that was 8-10 years old that walked up to one of the tables and started picking up models and moving them around like playing his own little battle game. The owning player was standing just a few feet away from him and I was two tables away.. The guy never noticed the kid until I walked over and told the kid to "cut it out". The kid gave me a dirty look and walked off. (Where was the parents ? - You guessed it - MIA) The owning player looked down saw what the kid did and said "Well Crap", we found nothing was really damaged luckily, but the guys at the table then had to agree on how to place the models back out.. (the kid had pulled some models out of his dead stack also which made it worse)

You know the model that you painstakingly build and took a month painting and came out outstanding, the one that everyone comments on how amazing it looks.

I was at my local store playing a game my Deamons against SM's and had my Greater Deamon on the table waiting to deep strike him into the game when my friend got a call so we decided to take a 10min break so he could finish his call.

So as I go to grab a soda from the front counter a father and his young son came in and was looking around at everything. I start to walk back to my table when I see the guy reach down to pickup my GD to get a closer look at it. I hear his young son say to him Dad you just don't pick peoples stuff up you have to ask them first. The GD being held at eye level somehow manages to slip out of his hands fall hit the edge of the table on the way down with parts coming off and then the guy I guess tried to use his foot to stop it from hitting the floor managed to kick it hard enough it goes under the table and hit the wall.

I think my heart stopped for a min as everyone in the store turns to look at this guy and he says oops sorry I will buy you a new toy and ask me if twenty was enough to cover it. I really di not know what to say at this point other than no it cost me alot more than just for the Toy not counting the hours I spent painting it.

These stories are simply brutal.

People just coming up, not giving a rat's ass, picking up model's to look at, model's that have been lovingly assembled, painted, and coddled like the owner's first born. There is only one conclusion that could happen. It's dropped and in some cases more damage applied from apologetic people trying to rescue.

To many of you, I suggest growling when anyone comes within 10 feet of table.

Edited own post as on hindsight, thought it was inappropriate


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Sadly its one of those things where you want models shown off to people because they can see them, admire them and inspire them not only to start the hobby but also to get idea's from your own hard work. But sadly many poeple treat them like toys, manhandling them and generally being careful.

Obviously being a hobbiest myself, when ever i pick up someones model after asking, I also hold it upright by its base, or firmly on my palm so it won't slip or slide. I generally ask others to do the same though I'm not bothered how they pick up my infantry as mine are very stable no matter what you hold it by. "Go marines Hurr"

I drop enough of my own models to know never to touch other peoples.

I just have a look from the edge of the table. If I really want to look closely at someones model, I ask them if I can have a look.

I will often then place it 6 inches or so from the edge of the table and bend down to look at it, perhaps picking it and turning it if there is a bit that I want to look at more.

Then I will say thanks, and either move it closer to them so they can pick it up and put it back where they want, or will let them just pick it up.

avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.

That is not a good story.
Not good, nor cool.
Actually, it's a shame. You know, like: the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, done by oneself or another. Yeah, that's it: shame

M_Stress wrote:

avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.

That is not a good story.
Not good, nor cool.
Actually, it's a shame. You know, like: the painful feeling arising from the consciousness of something dishonorable, improper, done by oneself or another. Yeah, that's it: shame

Actually, what I suspect Stress, is that young scamp avantgarde has laid what we in the trade refer to as a nerdrage trap, designed to elicit angry responses and internet threads of violence from people hundreds or thousands of miles away from him who have no idea what he looks like. Do kindly step around it and refrain from falling into it's intended purpose...

avantgarde wrote:I was hanging out with friends at the mall when we saw this geeky kid that went to my school walk out of the GW with his army. I was trying to impress this girl so we started harassing him. Like playing keep away with his models. Anyways I pocketed a couple and thought they looked cool when I got home and that's how I started 40k.

Mate, that's not cool and certainly no way to pick up a woman, I feel sorry for the guy you harassed, he probably walks about now constantly looking over his shoulder in case the same things happens again.

*I just noticed MeanGreenStompa's mesage* I don't normally reply like this but the post really got my goat as it has happened to me before and it's not fun*

Unsupervised Children!

A certain customer at my LGS brings his 2 children, they are like 5 and 6 maybe?

AT one point, the unspuervised kid ran over to the game my friend and I were playing and picked up my friends Chaos Landraider and terminators and started playing with them like GI Joe toys, stacking them up and moving them around.

Later, after my friend amazing politely asked the kid to stop, he kept saying excuse me, excuse me, excuse me to ask to play with them again. My friend ignored him, until the child said to both of us:

WHEN I SAY EXCUSE ME IT MEANS YOU BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO ME.

I was shocked to hear that from a 5 year old, I am 33 and my friend is a 40 year old father of 2...

I complained to the store manager who threw them out. Amazingly the models survived the brutality of being man handled and dropped, because they were plastic!

To this day I amazed at the patience my friend showed!

Augustus wrote:
WHEN I SAY EXCUSE ME IT MEANS YOU BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO ME.

He learnt that off his parents no doubt. I'd have been calling the father over to deal with it. It really isn't down to the kid when you're talking about a 5 year old, the bloody parents need to get it the feth together and take some fething responsibility.

If I'd have spoken to strangers in that way at that age, I would have had my behind tanned.

This one time when I was still a kid, I came out of the GW store in the mall carrying my army in an open box, when a couple of jerks from school grabbed a bunch of my models and started playing keepaway with them.

I never did get all of them back.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:

Augustus wrote:
WHEN I SAY EXCUSE ME IT MEANS YOU BE QUIET AND LISTEN TO ME.

He learnt that off his parents no doubt. I'd have been calling the father over to deal with it. It really isn't down to the kid when you're talking about a 5 year old, the bloody parents need to get it the feth together and take some fething responsibility.

If I'd have spoken to strangers in that way at that age, I would have had my behind tanned.

Don't mean to go off topic but something like this happened the other week, me and my young daughter were just coming back on a bus from a visit to the local GW (You will be please to know she is 2 and a half and loves GW and she is very well behaved and always says Please may I look at the Dragons, and daddy has promised to paint her a pink dragon) anyway we sat in the bus next to a heavily pregnant lady and these to young kids must have been about 5 or six said "This is my seat move" I was shocked! what a society we live in.. and the preganant lady moved as well.

I used to belong to this geeky kid who kept me and my friends in an open box. This one time as he was leaving a GW store some punk grabbed me and stuffed me in his pocket. A short while later he became quite geeky himself. It's the curse I and my kind bear :(

Whenever a child attempts to touch a figure of mine, a shout of 'OI!' is sufficent to elicit their attention. Then, when they turn to look at me, a steely glare and the word, 'No.' are usually enough to have them back away. One of the parents started glaring at me for this once, but to be perfectly honest, they can be as hacked off as they like. I'd just spent the last week painting that Astropath, like hell am I letting Grubby Mcfingers near it.

Despite careful handling, I once broke a guys crisis battle suit once when I was 15. I made up for it though by immediately going to the counter, buying a pot of glue, and offering to repair it for him. When he declined, I told him to keep the glue as compensation for me having made him waste his time repairing it.

That's the kind of behaviour I would expect from anyone who broke a model of mine. I don't mind suitably competent older gamers handling my stuff, but little 5 year old Grubby Mcfingers should stay well away.

Wolfgang wrote:
Don't mean to go off topic but something like this happened the other week, me and my young daughter were just coming back on a bus from a visit to the local GW (You will be please to know she is 2 and a half and loves GW and she is very well behaved and always says Please may I look at the Dragons, and daddy has promised to paint her a pink dragon) anyway we sat in the bus next to a heavily pregnant lady and these to young kids must have been about 5 or six said "This is my seat move" I was shocked! what a society we live in.. and the preganant lady moved as well.

Again, a word with the parent. Ignore the child or if it persists and the parent refuses to take action, bellow at it after silently ignoring it for a long time, a little fear of strangers is healthy for children.

Indeed.

My friends gentle kindness was rewarded with the kid not leaving. Honestly, I am mean to children on purpose. I don't go to my LGS to babysit. If they think I am a scary guy, that's perfect.

Cooing voices and gentle chides are not sufficient consequences.

One time an eight-year old broke one of my minis, and I unleashed a rolling suplex on him, just like my mentor, Armor King, taught me.

I gave him back to his parents, broken, tangled and torn, with a bottle of super glue and some insta set spray.

Worst thing at my store is that the kids are well behaved and always ask to look at the models, not even to hold them just for me to show it to them closer. The parents both of them will grab whatever look at it comment on how crappy something looks and throw it back on the table.

Nomog wrote:After asking a child to please stop picking up the models on the table ... guess what he grabbed? Yup....the pain boy. When the mother saw his little finger bleeding she proceeded to yell at me! The red shirt kindly explained I had asked her little ones several times to please not handle the models and he had already broken two.

You should have demanded compensation for the part they broke. Just like in a china shop, you break, you buy. As she's responsible for her kids, then she should compensate you for damage.

Then, criticize her for being a bad parent, an irresponsible, negligent, and unfit parent. Kids shouldn't be running wild, and it's the parent's job to ensure that doesn't happen. The kids don't know except what they're taught by their parents, and that's not your job in life. It's her job. If she does a bad job teaching her kids to behave with other people's stuff, and it causes you problems, it's fair to tell her.
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That said, there is nothing better than picking up a winged metal Hive Tyrant BY THE TIPS OF THE WINGS!

Cheese Elemental wrote:Once when I was in the FLGS about to start a game of 40k with my Orks against someone with Space Marines, a bunch of kids from a painting class on the other side of the battle bunker came over and just grabbed my Ghazghkull models and started fiddling with him, and bits of him were coming off! What's worse, they were scraping at the paint to see how thick it was and they had greasy fingers from eating doritos. Before I could even yell at them to stop, Ghazzie was covered in cheesy grease, fingerprints, and a lot of the paint was gone.

But, isn't that what authentic orks look like? Greasy food covered bodies, dirty, and chipped paint on everything? He was just helping you out with more realistic effects.