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I heard if you start a troll on fire it can't regenerate. Quick, get me some lighter fluid and a match.

Better yet, some napalm.

IvanTih wrote:What are you going to read in this post is a joke.
Shuma can't match trolliness of G he is out ultimate troll.

I'm classier than GBF.

Back on topic, I always saw Shuma as an equal opportunities aggravator.

I goad people out of their ivory towers, or i just write enough text that i climb to the top of it, then my tower is higher.

@Shuma - I bow to your superior trolling techniques, sir .

Albatross wrote:@Shuma - I bow to your superior trolling techniques, sir .

I trained in mongolia for years to attain such levels of sophistication in trolling.

@Shuma - Ah, in a 'Batman Begins' kind of way... Fair enough. It obviously requires great focus and dedication - traits I will never posess, sadly.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Albatross wrote:@Shuma - I bow to your superior trolling techniques, sir .

I trained in mongolia for years to attain such levels of sophistication in trolling.

And have forgotten the basics.

Meh. Putting it simply:

Oklahoma is a terrible, terrible place. Religious nutters run wild like antelope on the plains.

We must purge it with fire and steel!

Kanluwen wrote:Meh. Putting it simply:

Oklahoma is a terrible, terrible place. Religious nutters run wild like antelope on the plains.

We must purge it with fire and steel!

Careful they have more guns than you do, and oil.

That's why I'm recruiting Texas to my cause.

Everyone knows one Texan has more guns than all of Somalia, put together!

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This is true, although they have us in the RPG department. Thats counterbalanced by our uber dominance in unkillable double dooley pickup trucks. Redneck tanks baby.

Frazzled wrote:
I mean Western Europe is much more enlightened, like how Muslim womeon are not allowed to wear headscarves and the BNP is rising, and inversely, Danish playwrights are killed. Yep much more enlightened.
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You say that but at least we know when important religious festivals are. I mean I read just the other day that statistically 12/25 Americans don't know its Xmas time !

Stupid question that's dangerously on topic: isn't abortion a medical procedure? I thought all medical records were private under federal law?

Polonius wrote:Stupid question that's dangerously on topic: isn't abortion a medical procedure? I thought all medical records were private under federal law?

I think it's considered under the same vein as cosmetic procedures, which I don't think would be really considered "private".

But yeah. It's ridiculous, and it's Oklahoma. I'm not really surprised.

Frazzled wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:Meh. Putting it simply:

Oklahoma is a terrible, terrible place. Religious nutters run wild like antelope on the plains.

We must purge it with fire and steel!

Careful they have more guns than you do, and oil.

They've got Chuck Norris.

This seems well....odd because that type of thing falls under the hypocratic oath and stuff. How is this even legal I mean I could see UTAH doing it but wow.

Hey at least women are allowed to get abortions in Oklahoma. Here in good old Éire they have to go abroad to get it done. Still, it's a bad law.

Meh whadda ya goin to do. Thats life. Sometime people get there way sometimes they dont.

Kanluwen wrote:

Polonius wrote:Stupid question that's dangerously on topic: isn't abortion a medical procedure? I thought all medical records were private under federal law?

I think it's considered under the same vein as cosmetic procedures, which I don't think would be really considered "private".

But yeah. It's ridiculous, and it's Oklahoma. I'm not really surprised.

Of course it's medical, that's why only doctors are allowed to do it.

Cosmetic procedures are medical and private too, assuming it means plastic surgery.

I should think this proposed law would get overruled as unconstitutional as soon as someone takes it to a higher court.

Yeah back on topic i think its shocking and disgusting.

At the end of the day, in any Western Democracy, you can be religious, that is absolutely fine. But temper it with the knowledge of the day. The whole abortion thing is steeped in Religion and nothing else.

No society that claims it is "free" can demand that women do as WE tell them. Im not even particualrly pro abortion myself. I think its a bad thing generally, and i hate these sluts who get knocked up and have several abortions, its terrible, morally wrong, and irresponsible, but a woman has the RIGHT to choose. Thats the rule. Maybe we dont agree with it, but its their body, their ovaries, and their decision. This whole thing is disgraceful, and I think that Ireland not allowing it at all is terrible as well.

At the end of the day, if you absolutely force a woman to have a baby she doesnt want just because of your personal religious beliefs, wont she just throw it in a dumpster or in the local river? Or mutilate her genitals with a knitting needle? Me Grannie tells me that gak used to go on all the time! Surely killing a live baby by shotting it in a river is worse than killing some cells in a womb?

I dont want to get sidetracked by a massive religion debate, but lets be honest, thats all this boils down to.

mattyrm wrote:
...Do they put sex offendors and rapists names on a list on the internet? :S

Yeah. Most states have such registries.

Why does my Google toolbar think this page is in Norwegian?!

Frazzled wrote:Oklahama is part of the US. It was created to UT fans didn't have a long trip to beat the crap out of an entire state. New Mexico is too hot and Louisiana is even crazier than we are.

Ouch, sir that was uncalled for. Just for that I'm going to go dam the red river and drown you out.


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Frazzled wrote:This is true, although they have us in the RPG department. Thats counterbalanced by our uber dominance in unkillable double dooley pickup trucks. Redneck tanks baby.

And you beat us in the number of drive through liquor stores too.


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Kanluwen wrote:

Polonius wrote:Stupid question that's dangerously on topic: isn't abortion a medical procedure? I thought all medical records were private under federal law?

I think it's considered under the same vein as cosmetic procedures, which I don't think would be really considered "private".

But yeah. It's ridiculous, and it's Oklahoma. I'm not really surprised.

Of course it's medical, that's why only doctors are allowed to do it.

Cosmetic procedures are medical and private too, assuming it means plastic surgery.

I should think this proposed law would get overruled as unconstitutional as soon as someone takes it to a higher court.

It's currently being challenged on that premise.

Polonius wrote:Stupid question that's dangerously on topic: isn't abortion a medical procedure? I thought all medical records were private under federal law?

You're proceeding from the assumption you have any privacy. If I have sufficient money I can know every medical procedure you ever had.


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Frazzled wrote:Oklahama is part of the US. It was created to UT fans didn't have a long trip to beat the crap out of an entire state. New Mexico is too hot and Louisiana is even crazier than we are.

Ouch, sir that was uncalled for. Just for that I'm going to go dam the red river and drown you out.

Thats ok. At best you'll take out Dallas. As a Houstonian, go for it!

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Frazzled wrote:This is true, although they have us in the RPG department. Thats counterbalanced by our uber dominance in unkillable double dooley pickup trucks. Redneck tanks baby.

And you beat us in the number of drive through liquor stores too.

Sorry you're thinking of Louisiana, which is just another reason no one but God messes with Louisiana. They are crazy. My Mom is from there, I know. Oh I know...I guess that makes me half crazy?

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Kanluwen wrote:

Polonius wrote:Stupid question that's dangerously on topic: isn't abortion a medical procedure? I thought all medical records were private under federal law?

I think it's considered under the same vein as cosmetic procedures, which I don't think would be really considered "private".

But yeah. It's ridiculous, and it's Oklahoma. I'm not really surprised.

Of course it's medical, that's why only doctors are allowed to do it.

Cosmetic procedures are medical and private too, assuming it means plastic surgery.

I should think this proposed law would get overruled as unconstitutional as soon as someone takes it to a higher court.

It's currently being challenged on that premise.

Given sufficient motive, and resources, I could also lurk in your vicinity on a daily basis.

As with most similar things, privacy is real to the extent that it is accepted as veracious.

dogma wrote:Given sufficient motive, and resources, I could also lurk in your vicinity on a daily basis.

As with most similar things, privacy is real to the extent that it is accepted as veracious.

And you would be capped and left in a ditch but thats a separate issue.

I'm saying your medical records are not really private. I do not think this is a good thing.

No one's anything has ever been private by that definition. Even in the Dark Ages privacy could be eliminated through a judicious application of resources. So long as one is aware of a thing, one can expend energy to learn more about that thing.

Privacy has always been an illusion of aesthetics.

True, privacy isn't what people think it is, but there is a difference between being able to dig through records and pay off people to find out information and having the state post the info online.

Re-reading the article, it appears that the names of the women wouldn't go online, just the answers to a 37 question, 10 page form. Of course, critics argue, that can make it very easy to guess.

If I were to bet money on the outcome of this trial, it won't be about rights or privacy or any of that, but a simple supremacy clause issue. The state can't force doctors to violate federal law.

Polonius wrote:True, privacy isn't what people think it is, but there is a difference between being able to dig through records and pay off people to find out information and having the state post the info online.

Yeah, no doubt. Privacy is still a thing, its just not a thing in the sense that a thing is an absolute barrier. If we want something to be private, then we want it to be relatively difficult to access.

mattyrm wrote:I dont want to get sidetracked by a massive religion debate........

Sure you do mattyrm.... that's why every other post of yours attacks religion in one way or the other. I can tell you I'm getting tired of it, and the gloves are getting ready to come off. I think I have been really restrained when it comes to your bigoted anti religious posts but it seems like Gwar! is back in a new form or something.

GG