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Less WS , and 1 additional attack.

LunaHound wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:So, does the Tervigon take up an HQ slot? That would be really irritating, because I was planning on taking two Hive Tyrants. Perhaps they're like the generic greater Daemon, which doesn't take up a FOC slot but is treated like an HQ (?).

Tervigons are HQ, but you can take one as Troops for each unit of Termagants you have.

Enjoy your T6, W6, Sv3+, Feel no Pain, Regenerating scoring unit that poops out new scoring units.

Quickly! reword it into something he would say:

LunaHound wrote:Less WS , and 1 additional attack.

Yes, I know, the codex uses the modern western numerical system. What I want to know is what the big ol' blocks of rules text say. Also tyrranofexes are awesome, and I wish they had existed when I still played tyranids. This thing might just get me to start up that bug force again, though definitely not until I finish this marine one. I'll just have to sigh and dream.

ShumaGorath wrote:

LunaHound wrote:Less WS , and 1 additional attack.

Yes, I know, the codex uses the modern western numerical system. What I want to know is what the big ol' blocks of rules text say. Also tyrranofexes are awesome, and I wish they had existed when I still played tyranids. This thing might just get me to start up that bug force again, though definitely not until I finish this marine one. I'll just have to sigh and dream.

You are so picky -_-

The entire block of text under "Wuhlerschwarm" basically just says "A Ripper Swarm with this upgrade can Deep Strike." Everything else is fluff.

when they fail instinctive behaviour they eat each other (one wound per point failed)

LunaHound wrote:when they fail instinctive behaviour they eat each other (one wound per point failed)

Oh, thats not particularly damaging then. A base at most.

The entire block of text under "Wuhlerschwarm" basically just says "A Ripper Swarm with this upgrade can Deep Strike.

Blah, lame. I used to use a lot of rippers in my army, i had always hoped that they would be better.

ShumaGorath wrote:

LunaHound wrote:when they fail instinctive behaviour they eat each other (one wound per point failed)

ShumaGorath wrote: Oh, thats not particularly damaging then. A base at most.

unless you consider their 5=ld

kitsunez wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

LunaHound wrote:when they fail instinctive behaviour they eat each other (one wound per point failed)

ShumaGorath wrote: Oh, thats not particularly damaging then. A base at most.

unless you consider their 5=ld

average 2d6 roll is a 7. 2 wounds. They have 3. An above average 8 will kill a base. I'm seeing them at the same point value as a space wolf, which is terrible. They used to be five less than that. Does anything say that they can't score?

I'm glad that nid weapons won't constantly change Strength between games now. And they are no longer immune to instant death? Good. Then I can melta warriors and they'll actually DIE!

If it has the swarm rule mate, they cant score.

The ones that cost as much as a SW have wings. Regular ones cost the same as before.
JD is right regarding Swarms, they never score.

Blackfang speaks the truth
They arent actually that points heavy.


Problem with swarms are they are of limited use.
generally you can only use them to hold up units, and its an added bonus if they kill something.
If they win a combat then someones watching over you.


If swarms could score i'd be taking nurglings in my army :p

9 nurgling bases - 117
9 nurgling bases - 117
9 nurgling bases - 117
9 nurgling bases - 117
9 nurgling bases - 117
9 nurgling bases - 117

Thats what my troop choice would look like
162 annoying wounds lol, but as they cant capture objectives, i only really take a single unit of 6 to get in the way.

More info to battle the nids next month. My friends hive tyrant (named herman) looks like it's going to take some steriods and do about a year's worth of working out with weights.. i'm just going to hide in the corner now... with a can of fly spray....

lord_blackfang wrote:The ones that cost as much as a SW have wings. Regular ones cost the same as before.
JD is right regarding Swarms, they never score.

3 gargoyles, 18 points, one flying ripper, 15. Not particularly impressive, though thats in codex. 15 points for a four attack flyer with three wounds isn't something to sneeze at. At least they don't take up a troop choice in that case any more.

next line is important. It implies you can trade the bonesword for talons (giving two pairs) and the trade both pairs for those previous deathspitters or devourers. So a double dakkatyrant is still legal.

I would like to direct you to the NEXT sentence...

May exchange ONE pair of scything talons for ONE of the following weapons

You trade the bonesword for talons, yes, but you cant trade both pairs of scything talons for two deathspitters or devourers, just one...

chaos0xomega wrote:

next line is important. It implies you can trade the bonesword for talons (giving two pairs) and the trade both pairs for those previous deathspitters or devourers. So a double dakkatyrant is still legal.

I would like to direct you to the NEXT sentence...

May exchange ONE pair of scything talons for ONE of the following weapons

You trade the bonesword for talons, yes, but you cant trade both pairs of scything talons for two deathspitters or devourers, just one...

What does the devourer do now?

18" S6 Ap- Assault 6

I believe it's S6, AP- with 6 shots.

@chaos0xomega, you can indeed trade both pairs.

Trade in one pair for a twin linked devourer, then trade in the 2nd pair for another twin linked devourer.


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Redemption wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:So, does the Tervigon take up an HQ slot? That would be really irritating, because I was planning on taking two Hive Tyrants. Perhaps they're like the generic greater Daemon, which doesn't take up a FOC slot but is treated like an HQ (?).

Some people on Warseer mentioned that a Tervigon could be taken in the Troops FoC for every Termagant brood you have. If that's true you could take up to three that way, if you use the other three slots on Termagants.

Edit: Too slow >.<

Why can you take 3 only? I thought if you take 6 troops of Termagaunts you would be able to have 6 (six) Tervigons then.

max 6 troops choices in the FOC.

But what if the Tervigon is an upgrade to the Termagaunt unit, so of like Kaptin Badrukk or Tellion? Then you could have one added on to each Termagaunt unit. That would be awesome. Of course, it does look like you would need to buy two fairly big critter-boxes to make one, which would not make a lot of sense if you want a bunch, because then yu would be stuck with lots of expensive parts that you don't need.

BTW, Warriors are now troops, have a nice day.

EDIT FOR SPELLING AND THIS: THIS IS NOT TROLLING! I WAS TOLD BY A GW WORKER.

Yeah, it's not really a rumour since on the GW page they have been moved to the troops FOC.

40 pt Warriors with 4 attacks, re-roll failed wound...and rending might be fun.

Unit of 9
45 attacks
7ish rends
20ish wounds

Then again, compare that to 50 pt ThunderCav..*snort*

/Until you meet Vendetta spam

So, do Feeder Tendrils actually do anything in the new dex? Seems like re-rolls of one type or another abound, Feeder Tendrils(like they are now) seem kinda redundant.

edit: oh, nevermind, i don't believe they are in the new codex at all.

wyomingfox wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:So, does the Tervigon take up an HQ slot? That would be really irritating, because I was planning on taking two Hive Tyrants. Perhaps they're like the generic greater Daemon, which doesn't take up a FOC slot but is treated like an HQ (?).

Tervigons are HQ, but you can take one as Troops for each unit of Termagants you have.

Enjoy your T6, W6, Sv3+, Feel no Pain, Regenerating scoring unit that poops out new scoring units.

Quickly! reword it into something he would say:

em_en_oh_pee wrote:

wyomingfox wrote:

LunaHound wrote:

lord_blackfang wrote:

warpcrafter wrote:So, does the Tervigon take up an HQ slot? That would be really irritating, because I was planning on taking two Hive Tyrants. Perhaps they're like the generic greater Daemon, which doesn't take up a FOC slot but is treated like an HQ (?).

Tervigons are HQ, but you can take one as Troops for each unit of Termagants you have.

Enjoy your T6, W6, Sv3+, Feel no Pain, Regenerating scoring unit that poops out new scoring units.

Quickly! reword it into something he would say:

Yes, I'm trying to get this thread locked, so that another can be started that will perhaps get a little meaningful exchange in before it devolves into an episode of Beavis and Butt-head... (Luna, you should be with me on this, since it's your thread.)

warpcrafter wrote:Yes, I'm trying to get this thread locked, so that another can be started that will perhaps get a little meaningful exchange in before it devolves into an episode of Beavis and Butt-head... (Luna, you should be with me on this, since it's your thread.)

I dont understand your logic... isnt it easier to report / alert the mod for inappropriate post?
instead of contributing to ...

LunaHound wrote:I dont understand your logic... isnt it easier to report / alert the mod for inappropriate post?
instead of contributing to ...

Probably, but not as fun.

I'll admit though, the joke went right over my head.