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warpcrafter wrote:But what if the Tervigon is an upgrade to the Termagaunt unit, so of like Kaptin Badrukk or Tellion? Then you could have one added on to each Termagaunt unit. That would be awesome. Of course, it does look like you would need to buy two fairly big critter-boxes to make one, which would not make a lot of sense if you want a bunch, because then yu would be stuck with lots of expensive parts that you don't need.

It's not.

Hmm, no crushing claw option for Tyrant?

I hope so as I don't want to break them off.

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I like the Death Leaper rules. Very flavorfull and I can see some uses with it.

Fateweaver wrote:Hmm, no crushing claw option for Tyrant?

I hope so as I don't want to break them off.

Start breaking, sorry.

Why did you even put crushing claws on a Tyrant, it was never an option...?

Probably because lobster claws looks better than giant hands for rending claw.

I am a bit unclear if the Death Leaper is an IC or a squad. If it is a squad, I'd like to see Brood Size attached for the following thought.

Turn 1.A
Guard/Tau player goes
Turn 1.B
Death Leapers appear 1.1" from the gunline

Turn 2.A
Guard/Tau shoots into said gunline
Turn 2.B
Rape commences.


The answer clearly is mech, but am I the only one that is getting annoyed with the increasing use of Mech as the solution??

Che-Vito wrote:I am a bit unclear if the Death Leaper is an IC or a squad. If it is a squad, I'd like to see Brood Size attached for the following thought.

Turn 1.A
Guard/Tau player goes
Turn 1.B
Death Leapers appear 1.1" from the gunline

Turn 2.A
Guard/Tau shoots into said gunline
Turn 2.B
Rape commences.

The answer clearly is mech, but am I the only one that is getting annoyed with the increasing use of Mech as the solution??

I'm pretty sure Death Leaper is a solo model, a "special character" mutant lictor. While it appears to be getting an excessive amount of special rules and reputedly WS9, I doubt turtling down in transports is required. It'll eat command squads off IG armies almost certainly, but learning to work without the orders system and focusing short-ranged fire on it will probably work (unless of course Arbitrary Cruddace decided to give it T6, 4 Wounds and a 3+ save).

It is WS9 T4 and 3W.

And if we could not do the whole amusing picture that'd be much cooler too.

I see Death leaper for either area denial with terrain and quick take downs with a quick turn of attacks and fade away afterwards.

Note to self - Bring blacksun filters / Searchlights to fights with nids with death leaper...

Agamemnon2 wrote:
I'm pretty sure Death Leaper is a solo model, a "special character" mutant lictor. While it appears to be getting an excessive amount of special rules and reputedly WS9, I doubt turtling down in transports is required. It'll eat command squads off IG armies almost certainly, but learning to work without the orders system and focusing short-ranged fire on it will probably work (unless of course Arbitrary Cruddace decided to give it T6, 4 Wounds and a 3+ save).

Agreed, seeing as it is a single unit it is much less intimidating to a gunline!

reds8n wrote:It is WS9 T4 and 3W.

And if we could not do the whole amusing picture that'd be much cooler too.

All in all, seems like a very useful unit for knocking off HQ's, and tying down larger units as well.

IT's quite deadly.. well.. 1/3rd of the time anyway.. when it attacks.

I take it these translations are done without the aid of Babelfish?

Yes. Some of us actually speak German. Weird, I know

I guess nazi occupation did people some good after all then.

You give the Nazis too much credit. My country was under German rule a thousand years before the Nazis came into power

Too right, forgot about that.

ShumaGorath wrote:What does the devourer do now?

LunaHound wrote:18" S6 Ap- Assault 6

I've heard they also cause a morale test at the end of the shooting phase, at -1LD, if they cause 1 casualty. Can somone confirm?

Yes, I believe that is true.

airmang wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:What does the devourer do now?

LunaHound wrote:18" S6 Ap- Assault 6

I've heard they also cause a morale test at the end of the shooting phase, at -1LD, if they cause 1 casualty. Can somone confirm?

Confirmed, for both the S4 Assault 3 (Gaunts, Warriors, etc) and S6 Assault 6 (Tyrant, 'Fex, etc) versions. No more Living Ammunition (re-roll to wound) though.

Edit: reread it to be sure, the Devourers don't actually cause a Morale Check, the target still needs to have incurred 25% losses for the test, but if one of the wounds was by a Devourer, they get the -1 Ld penalty.

Just trying to sort out the Tyrant rules

I just built a Tyrant model with a venom cannon and a twin-linked devourer. Is that no longer legal? Could the model still pass for something that IS legal?

Orangecoke wrote:Just trying to sort out the Tyrant rules

I just built a Tyrant model with a venom cannon and a twin-linked devourer. Is that no longer legal? Could the model still pass for something that IS legal?

It's still a legal build. It'll cost you 210 points without any guard or other biomorphs though, but you do get to pick 2 out of 4 snazzy psychic powers.

Cool thanks - I have two Tyrant guard too (in blisters). Eep that's a lot of points I guess!

I was thinking, wha, warriors have 6xS6 shots, that'd pwn.....but its not. 3xS4 shots just don't do much for 30 points, and considering how they'd get insta killed, I question their future use outside of objective sitting in overload builds...and even then tervigon probably do better.

The roundup is very good.
It coincides with my impression that I got when reading through the new 'dex.

I've always been a fan of Gaunts and the Swarm tactics in general, so I think I'm going to end up running a Hive Tyrant HQ, couple Gaunt units, couple Hormagaunt units with Toxin Sacs, couple Tervigons, some Gargoyles, a Tyranofex, and then add in other Zoans and Lictors and Venomthropes to flavor.

IN THIS CORNER RERESENTING THE IG IS GAURDSMAN MARBO!...Where is he? well anyways

IN THIS CORNER REPRESENTING THE NIDS IS THE DEATH LEAPER!...wHERE IS IT?

Dizzam. 3 tervigons (2 HQ 1 via troops) and 5 squads of minibugs would be pretty scary. Throw in a parasite of mortrex and some trygon/mawlac/carnifex/tyrranofex to crack harder targets. The low cost of the new gaunts mixed with the force multiplying tervigon abilities are scary. Feel no pain on 3 of 5 gaunt squads a turn is nice, not to mention being able to generate 3 new squads a turn. Swarm nids are back in force.

Death Leaper sounds tasty for crippling psykers.

Assume the max of -3 Ld for Marine Librarians plus all the psychic defenses that 'Nids already have.

I'd love to see a Libby pull off any powers with Ld7 within 12" of a Tyrant (or anything else with SotW).