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Panic wrote:yeah,

++The loss of GW bits service is troublesome/mental, I have about 5 projects in my head right now that need bits.... like I want to make mini killa kans (counts as lootas) out of the lobba canon body. Why wont GW sell me that bit...
And why wont GW give me a heads up about new KillaKans/Buggies? If GW told me something about their plans my money would not have been spent on eBay buying old killa kans (with multiple weapons in box) and ork truck wheels to convert buggies...... /end rant

Yeah, GW ending the bitz service was a clear indication that they did not need $200-$300 dollars per year from me. Which is too bad, because I love to convert stuff, and plastic does not cover everything I would like to do.

on topic, plastic Killa Kanz should cost as much as a SM bike, what ever that is up to now.

Sharpasaspoon wrote:I'd expect them to come in a skwadren of 3 if plastic.

Why would you think that when Landspeeders and Sentinels don't sell as Squadrons?

phillosmaster wrote:If it's true and we are getting plastic Killa Kans, all I can say is "finally".

Players who use Chaos Dreadnoughts laugh at your 'finally,' how many years has it been since the regular SM Dread went plastic? It wouldn't take a major retool of the sprues to Chaos-ify that thing and slap it out there as a scenario accompanying release

Um, you know that a Chaos Dread is just a regular Dread with spikes, right?

Just like the Codex then.

you know that a Chaos Dread is just a regular Dread with spikes, right?

I think the point of the person complaining about the Chaos Dreadnought was that the current metal kit on sale has been as it is since 1996 and that he would like a multi-part plastic kit in its place. Other than the removal of two of the cool arms that used to come with it a few years ago the Chaos Dreadnought kit is exactly as it has been for 14 years and counting now. If the Orks are finally getting a plastic Dreadnought, Chaos players would also like to see their Dreadnought nicely revised and in plastic.

Additionally, the Chaos Dreadnought is more than just a spike covered Imperial Dreadnought, its rules are fundamentally different thanks to the need for rolling on that special table every turn with the possibility of Fire Frenzy or Blood Rage incorporating a Fleet move. Blood Rage with special Fleet move is always good, Fire Frenzy less so.

JohnHwangDD wrote:Um, you know that a Chaos Dread is just a regular Dread with spikes, right?

Well, yeah. Just like all the other Chaos vehicles. The difference is hat the official Chaos Dread is a 14-year-old metal model that could do with a refresh, even a simple minor one liek throwing in a couple of Chaos accessory sprues in with a SM Dread and charging $5 more for the "all new" Chaos dreadnought.

I've built and owned the 2E Chaos Dread, and I find a spiked Dread better-suited. Easier to convert, and better-looking.

JohnHwangDD wrote:

Sharpasaspoon wrote:I'd expect them to come in a skwadren of 3 if plastic.

Why would you think that when Landspeeders and Sentinels don't sell as Squadrons?

They used to sell Sentinels in squadron boxed sets though.

Panic wrote:yeah,
I'm hoping the grotzooka is on the frame so that I can get some via a unofficial bits site.

++The loss of GW bits service is troublesome/mental, I have about 5 projects in my head right now that need bits.... like I want to make mini killa kans (counts as lootas) out of the lobba canon body. Why wont GW sell me that bit...
And why wont GW give me a heads up about new KillaKans/Buggies? If GW told me something about their plans my money would not have been spent on eBay buying old killa kans (with multiple weapons in box) and ork truck wheels to convert buggies...... /end rant

PAnic..>

/end rant wrote:
A nerd way of succinctly ending a rant typically on an internet blog or message board. By invoking a semblance of programming code, the nerd hopes to appease fellow nerds with a chuckle, while also disarming readers with a framing device to lesson the impact of their prior inflammatory words.

To be fair, even if the bits service were still running you'd only be able to buy plastic parts as whoile sprues.

But yeah, R.I.P bits service. :(

JohnHwangDD wrote:Um, you know that a Chaos Dread is just a regular Dread with spikes, right?

I want to say a no. Not only with spikes, but also with crap rules.

So GW made FW to release such products...for the customers who care much about the details of the model, but less on prices or rules...

info from Scryer in the darkness over on Warseer: http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=233885&page=19

Here you go everybody, the plastic box product codes being released 'alongside' Battle Missions. Please note that this is not necessarily comprehensive (as previously mentioned, pending any stealth metal blisters, and I did say that GW might release the new Predator kit closer to Blood Angels than Battle Missions ):

Code:

<Space Marine plastic box code> £26.00 / US$43.00 / 35,00 € / Oz$72.00
<Orks plastic box code> £27.00 / US$44.50 / 35,00 € / Oz$74.00
<Orks plastic box code> £30.00 / US$49.50 / 39,00 € / Oz$83.00
<Imperial Guard plastic box code> £20.00 / US$35.00 / 30,00 € / Oz$55.00
<Imperial Guard plastic box code> £30.00 / US$49.50 / 39,00 € / Oz$83.00
<Scenery plastic box code> £15.00 / US$24.75 / 19,50 € / Oz$41.00

While not specifically assigned in black and white, these comprise:

Space Marine Venerable Dreadnought
Ork Killer Kans
Ork Deff Dread
Imperial Guard Chimera
Imperial Guard Basilisk

In order that some sense of mystery should still be preserved, no revelation will yet be made concerning the contents of the scenery plastic box*.

Sounds excellent so far.

Izual wrote:In order that some sense of mystery should still be preserved, no revelation will yet be made concerning the contents of the scenery plastic box*.

A Hitchhikers reference...

Well, its probably the space marine statue...

Heck yeah, 3 kans in a box, just as theorised!
The price for the dred isn't too bad, supposedly bigger then the spacey dred and only £4 more costy, sounds good to me.

That's awesome! The price isn't bad either, if it really is 3 kans a box!

Okay, so, let me throw this out there:

The Basilisk box must be the one for $49.50, which is the same price as the COMBINED box set for the Leman Russ Demolisher/Punisher/Executioner

the current Basilisk price is 41.25, the same as the stand alone Leman Russ. So I'm guessing the new box has more in it than a basilisk. YES!!!!!

IMO it would be safe to assume that the Basilisk box will probably have all the parts to make all of the choice in the Ordanance battery section.

If there are 3 KKs in a box, oh boy...

chaplaingrabthar wrote:

phillosmaster wrote:If it's true and we are getting plastic Killa Kans, all I can say is "finally".

Players who use Chaos Dreadnoughts laugh at your 'finally,' how many years has it been since the regular SM Dread went plastic? It wouldn't take a major retool of the sprues to Chaos-ify that thing and slap it out there as a scenario accompanying release

Keep laughing chaos players. Evidently I'll be building my new plastic kans and dread.

In any event my point was that the ork kan/dread kits sucked not because they looked old, but because they were actually a badly engineered model kit. I am aware that Orks have been getting alot of love lately. It's coming from both GW and FW now. I hope this keeps up. It's good to be an ork player right now.

I am also surprised that they haven't just posted chaos upgrade sprues for regular SM kits for chaos marines like they do for the different SM chapters. You'd figure that would be a great idea from their perspective. They increase the market for their existing model kits, and limit the number of kits they actually have to produce. Also they give chaos players a price hike by making them buy an additional upgrade sprue for everything.

I can feel a major WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! coming on!

Im excited. Always wanted to field a Dread and Kan wall, but the cost and effort in assembling a metal model was too much. Plastic is much more fun to assemble, convert and what have you. Bring on the WAAAGH!!!

If it really is three Kans in a box my price prediction was spot on, maybe GW should hire me

Well the "Kan" box, if it is a Kan box, is the same price as the 3 Raveners in Oz, so 3 is a good bet.

I'm still joygasming knowing that the Basilisk, Griffin, Medusa and (God willing) the Colossus are on their way out at last!

Scottywan82 wrote:I'm still joygasming knowing that the Basilisk, Griffin, Medusa and (God willing) the Colossus are on their way out at last!

We don't know that. We know the Basilisk is coming. We think the Chimera is coming. We can infer from the prices that the smaller IG price is the Chimera, and that the larger one is the Basilisk. We can logically deduce that the higher price on the Basilisk is due to it being a modular kit with multiple variants inside it.

But we don't know anything for sure beyond the existence of the Basilisk.

That looks like hot sizzle to me!

The bassie better have multiple options, give me my Manticore, and Colosus, and everything else, damn it!

New Dreads and Kans, sweetness! Hmmm, my next army may have to be a big mek army with tons of kans...

And a plastic venerable dread? Sweet ass. Even though I already have 6 Dreads, always room for one more, right? Haha.

The pain of building a metal ork dread soooo long ago still haunts me. I will be scarred for life for it, but hope is on the horizon.

Hope springs eternal; even in the grim dark.

H.B.M.C. wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:I'm still joygasming knowing that the Basilisk, Griffin, Medusa and (God willing) the Colossus are on their way out at last!

We don't know that. We know the Basilisk is coming. We think the Chimera is coming. We can infer from the prices that the smaller IG price is the Chimera, and that the larger one is the Basilisk. We can logically deduce that the higher price on the Basilisk is due to it being a modular kit with multiple variants inside it.

But we don't know anything for sure beyond the existence of the Basilisk.

You're like a cold shower on my joygasming self! I just want to believe damn you!

The trouble with the basilisk and putting varient artillery pieces in that kit is the guns are big, really big!
The leman Russ and Hellhound kits had three varients each because all it reqiured from GW was to put 3 different weapons mounts for the turret in each kit, each more or less the same size.
The new frames are massive though so I'm sure there will be at least one more artillery piece for the guard in the box, what it is I have no idea because I'm not up on guard anymore, lol. Griffon, bombard, I can't remember which is which, nor which is bigger!

H.B.M.C. Look like you were right and the Chimera kit won't have any maticore/hydra parts based on that price. Perhaps they're planning another £30 box further down the line with the parts for those two in it.

I'm not right - I'm only making an educated guess based upon the evidence at hand. I could very well be wrong.