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I dunno... Privateer could probably give it a go if they were so inclined.

Scottywan82 wrote:Boy howdy.

The phrase "boy howdy" is terribly unrepresented on the internet and, I am sad to say, in real life.

Anyhoo...I'm curious as to the predictions of the more sober and experienced posters. I like the SWM game, I own a few hundred of the models (my parents weep), and I'd like to hear whether or not you guys think I should dump 'em on eBay or stick it out and try to keep it alive via the fan community.

If you enjoy playing the game, there's no particular reason to stop playing it just because they're not making it any more.

Dead Horse wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:Boy howdy.

The phrase "boy howdy" is terribly unrepresented on the internet and, I am sad to say, in real life.

Anyhoo...I'm curious as to the predictions of the more sober and experienced posters. I like the SWM game, I own a few hundred of the models (my parents weep), and I'd like to hear whether or not you guys think I should dump 'em on eBay or stick it out and try to keep it alive via the fan community.

None of my friends are into it but I too ahve a few 100 minis so I have no problem wtih sharing. Unlike 40k there's not really 'mine' they're just things I bought.

usually I make up a squad for them for the intro game then let them pick for follow-ups. I'll miss not having more stuff come out (I was hoping for a republic gunship) but I'll hold on to mine. Probably buy more.

There's some talk on the Star Wars Minis boards of setting up a fan-collective to put out future 'virtual sets'... new stat cards for existing figures, or new characters with suggestions as to alternate figures or conversions to create them.

Like the CCG?

Clthomps wrote:

Empchild wrote:OO thank god I thought it was the MMO for a minute.

LOL nope thats still scheduled for the middle of October 2011..... if they don't push it back again.

I think this game is destined to be the Gran Turismo 5 of the MMO world....

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!

I loved that game. even if there is no one to play the models are awesome. lets all join up in prayer that gw doesnt pick it up.

LOL! Like GW could afford the Star Wars license.

It will probably just end up as another Heroscape expansion/game from Hasbro.

megatrons2nd wrote:It will probably just end up as another Heroscape expansion/game from Hasbro.

WotC is owned by Hasbro. Heroscape is a WotC game, as it falls under the portfolio that WotC is used for (games other than standard board games, essentially). So if WotC have just passed on renewing the Star Wars License, you won't be seeing Star Wars characters in Heroscape.

Hasbro already have a Starwars license with the toys they don't need one for the game.

sonofruss wrote:Hasbro already have a Starwars license with the toys they don't need one for the game.

No, actually, they do.

There is no one Star Wars license that allows you to make whatever you want. Companies purchase a license to make specific products. The license that WotC had and has chosen to let lapse allowed them to make a Star Wars miniatures game and RPG. Hasbro has a license to make toys and board games (and quite possibly other various bits and pieces). Wizkids, and before them WotC, and before them Decipher had the license to produce Star Wars collectible card games. Other companies have licenses relating to other products.

All of which is irrelevant since WotC, not Hasbro, are the company making Heroscape, and WotC are the company that just chose to let their Star Wars license expire...

Why couldn't they add it to there board game license?

At the summer camp I work at, the warhammer program almost died out, with about 4 campers and two councilors able to play warhammer, while there were 16+ kids and 3 councilors playing swm. We even had to pull councilors from other areas to assist the swm program. It saddened me, as warhammer was going extinct where I was, but this annnouncement might turn things around, as the children who played swm were obsessed with the game, and wouldnt do anything but play it, hell they would get into fights over the game. Maybe they will switch over to 40k, but only time will tell.

I thought Heroascape was a Hasbro Game. When did it become a WoTC system?

megatrons2nd wrote:I thought Heroascape was a Hasbro Game. When did it become a WoTC system?

Hasbro owns WoTC.

megatrons2nd wrote:I thought Heroascape was a Hasbro Game. When did it become a WoTC system?

it was. sometime last year IIRC hasbro transferred the control/development of the game over to wotc (whom they own) which is the main reason you might have seen old d&d minis pop up in the latest boxed sets for heroscape.

sonofruss wrote:Why couldn't they add it to there board game license?

Because they don't want to?

Or did you mean that they just call the game a 'board game' and keep producing it under Hasbro?

(Ignoring for a moment that they wouldn't be interested in doing so, as it's the sort of game that WotC is specifically designed to create, so would be counter-productive for Hasbro to take it on instead...) I don't know the specifics of the licensing agreements in place currently, but I do know that they tend to specifically define what is and isn't allowed. So, since Hasbro was producing board games and WotC was producing miniatures games, there is a definition of the types of games allowed built into the license.

There was a bit of a legal wrangle back when Wizkids released the Star Wars pocket model game, as Hasbro claimed that since it included clip-together models it was technically a miniatures game and so was treading on WotC's license and outside the bounds of Wizkids'. It was decided in the end that that it was technically still a card game, and so within the terms of their license.

That is what I meant turning it in to a board game bypassing the collectible part and have set figures.

What would be the point?

It seems like the line wasn't profitable for them. As such, I really can't see anything new coming out of this from Wizards or Hasbro. Our best hope is going to be another company picking up the rights.

Hopefully someone who knows what they are doing.

Probably not anytime soon. I know UDE (and Upper Deck in general) is having issues and I am pretty sure they are not the only ones.

I have tons of friends who still play Star Wars Epic Duels. If they were to remake that with the existing figures WotC has and created expansion packs for different scenarios I know of several people who would be all over it.

Really disappointing, but cheap minis online would be nice. My friend and I could start building a HUGE collection.

Scottywan82 wrote:

Breotan wrote:Was there a flood of figures dumped on the market when MechWarrior clix was cancelled?

Boy howdy. I contributed myself.

Same here.

I dumped everything I bought. Lost interest after fire for effect, or some set in that area.

I played Star Wars CMG for a while. Not bad for a game tied to a map. One thing I really liked (are you listening, GW?) was that they had nearly instant FAQ feedback. WOTC, being used to facilitating a competitive game like Magic, knew how important it was to use consistent terms and clarifying language & FAQs

insaniak wrote:There's some talk on the Star Wars Minis boards of setting up a fan-collective to put out future 'virtual sets'... new stat cards for existing figures, or new characters with suggestions as to alternate figures or conversions to create them.

Star Treks CCG had a similar fate. It is now in the hands of the fans with the Continuing Committee. They have set the rules up a little better for balance, and some fans propose new cards or rulings for cards. If someone was to have the right group of developers they could keep the format going. But alas with no new product or advertising to get new players into it.....does not look good in the long run.

derek wrote:A pity for those that liked it. I stopped playing anything with a license that can be lost/not renewed after Decipher pissed away the licenses on Star Wars, Star Trek, and LoTR.

I played the Decipher Star Wars CCG. It was better than the WotC one, IMHO.

However, Decipher didn't piss it away. WotC had the RPG rights, then got the rights to make the card game when Lucas Arts would not allow Decipher to renew their rights. I guess they were outbid. Ah, well.