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Will this prevent the next series of Wipeout! being filmed in Argentina though I wonder...

KK has the right of it.

Now that I think about it I'd be leery if I were Argentina. The UK has a history of conquering other countries that have superior culinary styles to add to their menu. Anyone who's had Argentinian beef and other entrees knows what I am talking about here. Frankly the Brits might be getting tired of curries and may be laying about for a new menu right about now...

filbert wrote:Will this prevent the next series of Wipeout! being filmed in Argentina though I wonder...

Alas, Bob Monkhouse is long dead...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1qu16Kq1NJU&NR=1

Outcome of war = the Argentinians get theri poor latin asses whooped by the Britts, then we all point fingers at the fools in Bueons Aries for a while and, all goes back to normal.

Frazzled wrote:
Now that I think about it I'd be leery if I were Argentina. The UK has a history of conquering other countries that have superior culinary styles to add to their menu. Anyone who's had Argentinian beef and other entrees knows what I am talking about here. Frankly the Brits might be getting tired of curries and may be laying about for a new menu right about now...

I like corned beef!

Frazzled wrote: The UK has a history of conquering other countries that have superior culinary styles to add to their menu. ..

We just shorthand that to "the rest of the world"

Are you claiming British cuisine is inferior? How dare you challenge the preeminence of Steak & Kidney pie?

Frazzled wrote:Its one thing to get in a minor tiff over somegodforsaken island (how come no one gets in a fight over some idyllic place? Its always lets final the crappiest locale in a thousand miles and get pushy shovey, I mean come on!), its another to start attacking the mainland.

So the oil doesn't matter then? It's irrelevant anyway, The Falklands is British Territory - even if there was nothing there, the people want to be British.

So, America would act against it's closest and most powerful ally, if that ally responded in kind to an attack on it's sovereign territory? I find that hard to believe. Besides, it's a little bit of a hypocritical attitude considering that neither Afghanistan or Iraq directly attacked the USA. But then, this is you we're talking about...

Regardless, there are 4 Eurofighter Typhoons stationed in the South Atlantic - the attack would be over before the US would be able to stop it.

chaplaingrabthar wrote:Are you claiming British cuisine is inferior? How dare you challenge the preeminence of Steak & Kidney pie?

You betcha buddy. In addition to Southern cooking that would give a bull a heart attack I can resort to Mexican/Cajun style in a heartbeat. Bring it!

Population of The Falklands

2,306 humans
42,000 sheep
127,000,000 penguins
55,000 feral Haggis

at the last survey in the summer of 2008-9.

Albatross wrote:

Frazzled wrote:But yea I'd give even money on a motivated Argentina.

You might also want to give even money on several airstrikes on the Argentine mainland ending any potential conflict within days. It was considered last time (Ketara?), and I don't think the UK would hesitate the second time around. Gotta love force projection.

Are you referring to ludicrous claim the RAF made that they could provide air cover and attack the Argentine mainland from bases in South Africa?

MeanGreenStompa wrote:The Falklands are a territory of the United Kingdom.

There were no indigenous people dwelling on the islands when they were claimed. The original claim to the islands was contested between the Spanish and the British. The Brits claimed it solidly BEFORE there was an independent Argentinian nation.

They have sweet feth all claim to the islands.

If they try it on again, we are fully justified in tearing them a new arsehole...again.

It was actually a Dutchman who first plotted the position of the isles in 1600, although there are claims that the British navigator John Davis sighted the island earlier in 1592. Technically, the islands belonged to the Spanish originally according to the Treat of Tordesillas in 1492 between Portugal and Spain which granted all lands to Spain within a certain territory. The first recorded landing on the isles was by Captain John Strong of Plymouth in 1690. He called the islands 'Falkland's Sound', after Lord Falkland, the commissioner of the Admiralty. He was succeeded by a large number of Frenchmen who called the islands the Iles Malouines( which later evolved the to Spanish 'Malvinas'. The islands were first secretly settled by a French nobleman in 1764, who called their settlement Port Louis. In 1765, Captain John Mcbride showed up, and under the order of the British government, were to settle the place and remove any other settlers. The French, when told to leave or swear allegiance, refused. Captain Anthony Hunt and a small force of marines were left behind to settle the place whilst the French settlement was reported back to England.

The French had actually sold their colony to the Spanish already though, to help cement relations. The Spanish and the British argued over who owned the place for a while, until in 1770, the Spanish sent a fleet of five ships to expel the British settlement. War between the two seemed inevitable until Spain backed down and formally restored Port Egmont(the British settlement) in 1771. The British later abandoned their settlement in 1774.

In 1816, a patchwork of independent republics in South America declared independence from Spain, and later became Argentina. The new nation immediately laid claim to all former Spanish territories, including the Falklands. In 1820, an Argentinian frigate took formal possession of the islands, 1823, the first Argentinian governor was appointed, and in 1826, ninety colonists were landed in Port Louis(now Puerto de la Soledad) under Louis Vernet. However, in 1831, after claiming all the waters around the Falklands, he arrested two American boats for fishing and sealing in what he proclaimed was his territory. The American corvette Lexington sailed to Port Louis, razed all fortifications, took prisoners, and declared the islands free of government.

The British sloop Clio showed up in 1833 then turned up at the Falklands, weighed anchor, and raised the Union Jack, claiming them for Britain, and establishing a new settlement. Argentina protested, saying the islands were theirs under the following premises:-

-Argentina inherited Spains former territory
-Spain, purchased the islands from France, had acquired the right of prior occupation.
-Britain had abandoned its settlement already.
-They were just suffering a temporary setback when the Americans torched the place, and regardless of what the Americans thought, it was still theirs.

Lord Palmerston then responded basically with two fingers and said that it could not expect Britain to 'permit any other state to exercise a right derived from Spain which Great Britain had deprived to Spain herself'(referring to the earlier backing down of Spain over the issue). Argentina then protested for the next 150 years, because they were sore losers.

The End.

Hmmm, no Corn beef, No wipe-out series 3 and a temporary [till we sink another of their out dated vessels and give them a sound thrashing] ban on going to gouchos for account meeting lunches?

This could get a bit dicey fellas but it will take some effort, right do as i do.

Chanting;

Must forget Diana, [face changing] Must forget Diana, [face changing must concentrate] Must forget Diana, Must forget Diana [lip stiffening], Must forget Diana, who the feck is Diana? [stiff upper lip acheived, 80's tash at full bristle!].

Down a can of premiun strength lager.

Oi Argies, Your gunna get your fackin' eds kicked in, Your gunna get your fackin' eds kicked in, Your gunna get your fackin' eds kicked in!

I am now ready to resolve our differances in the traditional manner. Now while i'm doing this if someone could stop the Frenchies from selling them missiles that would be appreciated [I'm looking at you Yankie].

The famous picture of Corporal Peter Robinson and the story of the Royal Marines epic yomp across the falklands while smashing the Argies all the while is probably the thing that got me to join the corps in the first place...

But anyway, my two cents, if any person claims to hold "freedom" dear they should listen to "the people"

If the people of The Falklands want to remain British, then who the hell are the Argies to tell them otherwise?

I dont care where the place is Geographically. I care about other human beings.

If the people of the Falkland Islands are as patriotically British as i have been led to believe they are, the Argies can lick my balls.

Screw it, if it actually comes to a war, which i doubt very much, ill join back up and march across the Falklands kicking ass just like my predecessors.

I might have to lose a stone first though...

This is actually an attitude that was prevalent across all of Britain at the time of the Falklands war. The Marines and Paras had huge numbers of retired personnel suddenly volunteering to rejoin so that they could go. There was a 72 year old Gurkha who stowed away on one of the warships just so he could come along! To quote one Marine Officer, 'Like hell are we surrendering to some fething so and so !'.



I appreciate it was a quote and the intent wasn't to offend, but if we could avoid certain terms, even in circumstances like this, it'd be for the best. Ta.

Kilkrazy wrote:Population of The Falklands

2,306 humans
42,000 sheep
127,000,000 penguins
55,000 feral Haggis

at the last survey in the summer of 2008-9.

feral Haggis? You mean Haggis has mutated into an animal?
Lock and load boys, the end times are a'comin.

Frazzled wrote:Actually its theirs. There's at least a few thousand miles between the UK and Argentina. But I won't say anything if you won't (unless of course Obama invokes the Monroe Doctrine, which well he should actually and the US Navy re-enacts the Dutch naval flotilla up the Thames thing).

So you also belive that the US should hand over Guam to Mirconesia, the Virgin Islands to Dominica, Navassa to Haiti and so forth?

Frazzled wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Population of The Falklands

2,306 humans
42,000 sheep
127,000,000 penguins
55,000 feral Haggis

at the last survey in the summer of 2008-9.

feral Haggis? You mean Haggis has mutated into an animal?
Lock and load boys, the end times are a'comin.

We only released them to help convince the Gurkhas to get back on the boat so we could take them home.

We need a rofl emote... seriously.


As to the situation, saw the news two days ago and rolled my eyes, couldn't believe the Argies where even considering to turn down that path again.

Hopefully they'll see sense and drop it right quick, that place is an equivilent holy ground to the Marines now, they don't want to be proding that hornets nest.

Argentina is less likely to go to war with Britain than they are to top the medals table at the winter olympics. Haven't this government brought us into enough wars ffs.

Your new avatar shows you are getting ready to reenlist?

Black Antelope wrote:

Frazzled wrote:Actually its theirs. There's at least a few thousand miles between the UK and Argentina. But I won't say anything if you won't (unless of course Obama invokes the Monroe Doctrine, which well he should actually and the US Navy re-enacts the Dutch naval flotilla up the Thames thing).

So you also belive that the US should hand over Guam to Mirconesia, the Virgin Islands to Dominica, Navassa to Haiti and so forth?

We really should. I can't remember all those islands.

Maybe you could let slip Hawaii at the same time.

KK wrote:Maybe you could let slip Hawaii at the same time.

Ooh, yeah! We'll swap you Northern Ireland for it. One careful owner, GSOH essential.

Or Monserrat?

The sun never sets....

Indeed!

Though must say, mixed feelings about the Empire. Lots of pride, mixed with lots of guilt.

But hey ho, was nothing to do with me!

@MDG - I totally know what you mean - parts of it were awful, nasty and cynical episodes in our history.

But part of me also reads about it and thinks:'Awesome. Take THAT, Johnny Foreigner'.




Yes, I am aware that this makes me a bad person!

At this time I think this line is very appropriate:

We don't want to fight but by Jingo if we do!

That being said:

Kilkrazy wrote:Maybe you could let slip Hawaii at the same time.

We must have 50 states! Changing the pattern of all the little stars in the corner is agony!

Dump Hawaii.

Incorporate Mexico and solve the border problem.

Swap Alaska to the Canadians for Montreal.