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Breotan wrote:If I ever resurrect my Tau army, I'm definately grabbing FW suits.

Same, I may have to dust my tau off for these. Then again thats if I don't spend all the money on new ork stuff.

ShumaGorath wrote:

AesSedai wrote:They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.

Those are not the correct gun stats. Burst canons only have three shots, the PHASED ion gun is strength 4 ap4 with 4 shots, and the melta weapon is d3 shots. The submunition round is right though.

Guessing from the way its written that he knows burst cannons are three shot and the suit has 2 sets of twin linked so he wrote it as 6 shots with re-rolls same goes for the fusion weapon i'd say, not a clue on the ion gun tho

LEEQAEX wrote:Tau have some of the nicest Elite walker type vechicals . Shame I dont like the troops not enough spikey scary bits on them

Actually the battlesuits, the ones you see and broadsides, all count as infantry. In fact tau have no walkers, just skimmer vehicles and infantry, nothing else (unless we count stuff not in the codex, but it's not much more)

I'm not a fan of the stompa bits... I was hoping the FW arms would be less weedy. Ah well.

Those new battlesuits are so cool. FW battlesuits are what makes me want to play Tau sometimes, and these are the best so far.

faeslayer wrote:
I'm not a fan of the stompa bits... I was hoping the FW arms would be less weedy. Ah well.

Those new battlesuits are so cool. FW battlesuits are what makes me want to play Tau sometimes, and these are the best so far.

"The first of our Stompa conversion kits".

They've got more coming.

STOMPA UPGRADES!

And now I'm happy I still haven't build my Stompa yet I bought over a year ago.

I just hope they release the upgrade kits seperatly.

Are all the guns on the xv9 TL?

According to Shuma, nope. I can't say though as I don't have IA: Apocalypse

You can mix and match at will, and of course any you take twice becomes twin-linked.

jspyd3rx wrote:Are all the guns on the xv9 TL?

No. Only the burst canons are twin linked.


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DEATH89 wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

AesSedai wrote:They look great, thanks for posting!

Burst cannon: Str 5 AP5 6 shot with re-rolls
Polarised ion gun: 18" range Str 6 AP6, assault 6, rending
Fusion cascade: 12" range Str 6 AP1, D6 shots melta
Pulse sub munition rifle: 24" range, STR 5, AP 6 assault 1, 5" blast, no cover saves.

I read this on Tau Tactica a while ago. I wonder which is which.

Those are not the correct gun stats. Burst canons only have three shots, the PHASED ion gun is strength 4 ap4 with 4 shots, and the melta weapon is d3 shots. The submunition round is right though.

Guessing from the way its written that he knows burst cannons are three shot and the suit has 2 sets of twin linked so he wrote it as 6 shots with re-rolls same goes for the fusion weapon i'd say, not a clue on the ion gun tho

You can mix and match guns, so counting them as "together" is disingenuous. Also 2d3 is not the same as 1d6.


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The Dreadnote wrote:You can mix and match at will, and of course any you take twice becomes twin-linked.

Incorrect. You switch a twin linked weapon for one that is not. The twin linked burst canons are base and can be switched to any of the alternatives at cost, but no where does it say that the alternatives are twin linked. It also doesn't state that taking multiples imbues a single twin linked weapon. They all have multi trackers so they can all fire an additional weapon per shooting phase.


This is actually confusing to me as the submunition gun has some sort of giant shield arm. The suits all have two weapons, there is no way to not have two weapons. Why doesn't it have a second gun and what use is the shield arm on a model that can't use the arm? It's obviously the "shield generator" upgrade, but it's on an arm that has to have a gun. The model with the sub rifle is an illegal model.

Oh cool, the mek stompa add-ons will help. Iv been trying forever to make a cool looking lifta-droppa.

Well that Stompa kit has now confirmed my attendance. I must have one!

Sorry I have to go and console my wallet, its hidden itself away in the corner rocking backwards and forwards whilst weeeping softly...

Or the model with the shield arm could just be the commander version.

Railguns wrote:Or the model with the shield arm could just be the commander version.

Or he could have the awesome upgrade, which allows you to do things you can't normally do.

Wow wow wow... those new Tau suits are simply stunning. I'm itching to know just what those guns are supposed to be. I think I see some type of rail gun variant in there.

The stompa is pretty meh for my tastes... I hope the arm we see there isn't supposed to be a lifta-dropa.

From left to right, phased ion gun, pulse submunitions rifle, fusion cascade.

The 3 new guns are as follows:

Phased Ion Gun 18 inch ST4 AP4 Assault 4, Rending
Fusion Cascade 12 inch ST6 AP1 Assault D3, Melta
Pulse Submunitions Rifle 24 inch ST5 AP6 Assault 1, 5 inch blast, no cover saves



You can replace one or both of the twin linked burst cannons with any of those weapons. Thet're pretty badass.

I'm unaware as to why people keep repeating that information?

What weapons are which and the stats are on the first page. Scroll down(while reading) to the bottom and read the actual entire first page.

Kanluwen wrote:I'm unaware as to why people keep repeating that information?

Jesus Kan, weren't you listening?

Phased Ion Gun 18 inch ST4 AP4 Assault 4, Rending
Fusion Cascade 12 inch ST6 AP1 Assault D3, Melta
Pulse Submunitions Rifle 24 inch ST5 AP6 Assault 1, 5 inch blast, no cover saves

The one on the right has the hockey stick, the one in the middle has the ball, and the one on the left is stealing second.

Try to keep up.

So the xv9 can take two of the same weapons? I can have 3x suits with basically 6 five inch blasts? Also, another unit with six d3 melta shots? That is whole lotta shooting goodness. Things like this would make tau very lethal at higher point games. I am drooling at the thought of maxed out broadsides and xv9's. Wonder how many suits one can squeeze in at 2k? I imagine shield drones for the xv9's would make them very survivable. Now I need to come up with about 350 smakeroonies for nine suits. I am looking at you 'nids.

Welp, I logged in after ~9 months of inactivity. Saw more FW Tau. I guess I'll play Tau again.

Let's hope they still honor my year-old $250 giftcard.


edit: Huh, guess I need a new banner too. It is no longer d09.

jspyd3rx wrote:So the xv9 can take two of the same weapons? I can have 3x suits with basically 6 five inch blasts? Also, another unit with six d3 melta shots? That is whole lotta shooting goodness. Things like this would make tau very lethal at higher point games. I am drooling at the thought of maxed out broadsides and xv9's. Wonder how many suits one can squeeze in at 2k? I imagine shield drones for the xv9's would make them very survivable. Now I need to come up with about 350 smakeroonies for nine suits. I am looking at you 'nids.

It seems like the submunition rounds or the basic burst canons are the best configurations for cost. The melta is nice in theory, but the low strength and range makes it incredibly dangerous to use and actually pretty ineffectual.

With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.

I still haven't seen the new pics on their site yet. Do they normally move the newsletter prior to posting on the site?

Crablezworth wrote:With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.

True, but the unit's not really an anti armor unit regardless. You're better off using those rail guns or hammerheads. The tau army lacks good methods for dealing with massed infantry at this point, and the sub round or burst canons deal with those nicely.

ShumaGorath wrote:

Crablezworth wrote:With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.

True, but the unit's not really an anti armor unit regardless. You're better off using those rail guns or hammerheads. The tau army lacks good methods for dealing with massed infantry at this point, and the sub round or burst canons deal with those nicely.

Really? S6AP4 pieplates don't deal with massed infantry? S5AP5 shots everywhere don't deal with infantry? Mass marines no. Anything with a 4+ or 5+ save is basically doomed. In 1750 I run 3 pie plates plus lots of other goodness.

The "ignoring cover" is the part I'm interested in. Only one HQ item is able to do this from range and it's only 18".

Kanluwen wrote:

Ketara wrote:GW won't be releasing a new plastic kit then. Not if Forgeworld just made new ones.

These are the XV-9 "Hazard" suits and the new weapon variants we were told about awhile ago. Not the XV-8s. It's still possible we'll see XV-8s redone in the style of the FW ones.

It's also possible (given the short timeframe between Forgeworld releasing the original Piranha and GW deciding to include it in the codex and release a plastic kit for it) that the XV-9s will be included in the codex. Or that they'll jump ahead to XV-10's or somesuch.

rogueeyes wrote:

ShumaGorath wrote:

Crablezworth wrote:With 2 of the submunition rifles you're lookin at like 120pts a model and very little ability to deal with armor. Still badass though.

True, but the unit's not really an anti armor unit regardless. You're better off using those rail guns or hammerheads. The tau army lacks good methods for dealing with massed infantry at this point, and the sub round or burst canons deal with those nicely.

Really? S6AP4 pieplates don't deal with massed infantry? S5AP5 shots everywhere don't deal with infantry? Mass marines no. Anything with a 4+ or 5+ save is basically doomed. In 1750 I run 3 pie plates plus lots of other goodness.

Currently tau have a big issue bringing those good gun stats to bear. Taking firewarriors out of their transport is almost suicide as you need those to score, and if the crisis suits aren't bringing plasma, missiles, or fusion, then you lack for the ability to deal with transports or good armor saves. The hammerhead is a good all-rounder but isn't something you can really take in effectively large numbers. Three st6 ap4 pie plates isn't really the kind of output you need these days, and three hammerheads also means no broadsides, so no concentrated anti vehicle firepower. They can do anti infantry, but it's a hard request for tau to fulfill.


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insaniak wrote:

Kanluwen wrote:

Ketara wrote:GW won't be releasing a new plastic kit then. Not if Forgeworld just made new ones.

These are the XV-9 "Hazard" suits and the new weapon variants we were told about awhile ago. Not the XV-8s. It's still possible we'll see XV-8s redone in the style of the FW ones.

It's also possible (given the short timeframe between Forgeworld releasing the original Piranha and GW deciding to include it in the codex and release a plastic kit for it) that the XV-9s will be included in the codex. Or that they'll jump ahead to XV-10's or somesuch.

It would be a slap in the face if they weren't included in the codex. There's nothing "apocalypse" about the unit. Its one of the few datasheets I've yet seen that really has a strong place in the main book. If IG gets ICBMs and the tyranids get trygons tau should at least get XV9s.