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Well discounting those armies that really have zero chance of going anywhere. (Space Marine, Orks, CSM, Eldar, Tau, Guard, Tyranids and most of the other Marines.)

Least - Daemons, mainly as someone said above I'd want them back in the CSM book. One of things thats bugging me atm is I'm 100% certain when CSM does eventually get replaced, the pitiful Lesser/Greater Daemon rules will vanish and we will be Warriors of Chaos in space.

Most - Sisters of Battle. Some folks don't like them, but they are a fun concept that would be given a whole fresh lease of life with deccent plastics.
It's also telling that the two women I personally know who play this game both want Sister armies if they go plastic, and five other women I have seen either at 40K doubles or in a store also have had sisters.

From a fluff stand point ether tau or DE just cause they have never really been a main part of the fluff for awhile Never talked about to much or anything like that.

I think everyone else is very well placed into the fluff.

Demons can happily go away, back to my CSM where they belong in the first place. I think that also answers query #2.

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Most - Sisters of Battle. Some folks don't like them, but they are a fun concept that would be given a whole fresh lease of life with decent plastics.
It's also telling that the two women I personally know who play this game both want Sister armies if they go plastic, and five other women I have seen either at 40K doubles or in a store also have had sisters.

It's not even the whole "metal models only!" thing that's the issue. The backstory for them sucks, as does the fanbase that has seemed to cropped up around them.

They're either fanatical zealots who act as the militant arm of the Ecclesiarchy and are only so well-supplied/trained due to the fact that they're called upon by the Ordo Hereticus...or they're some kind of supertactical femmarines who can do everything better than Space Marines and Imperial Guard combined, and have access to every single thing in the Imperial armory and can outrank an Inquisitor's authority, etc etc.

It's stupid fluff that needs to be brought back in line by someone who isn't a Sisters fanboi.

Brother SRM wrote:If they dropped Necrons or rolled Chaos Daemons back into Chaos Mairnes I wouldn't bat an eyelash. If they dropped Orks I'd be pissed though, since for once there's a really well supported xeno race with an entirety of plastic options.

I agree. The Deamons were, in my opinion, just an Excuse to say "Hey everybody, see these models that already existed? Heres a Codex! Buy them all!"


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Kanluwen wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Most - Sisters of Battle. Some folks don't like them, but they are a fun concept that would be given a whole fresh lease of life with decent plastics.
It's also telling that the two women I personally know who play this game both want Sister armies if they go plastic, and five other women I have seen either at 40K doubles or in a store also have had sisters.

It's not even the whole "metal models only!" thing that's the issue. The backstory for them sucks, as does the fanbase that has seemed to cropped up around them.

They're either fanatical zealots who act as the militant arm of the Ecclesiarchy and are only so well-supplied/trained due to the fact that they're called upon by the Ordo Hereticus...or they're some kind of supertactical femmarines who can do everything better than Space Marines and Imperial Guard combined, and have access to every single thing in the Imperial armory and can outrank an Inquisitor's authority, etc etc.

It's stupid fluff that needs to be brought back in line by someone who isn't a Sisters fanboi.

Sisters were made to atract girls into the hobby. Their fluff is slowed. If they wrote up half decent Fluff for them, and made plastic for them, then more people would like them. If a girl wants to play a Viloent wargame, why play a Girly army? Most of the Girls I know who play are Orks or Artillery Heavy IG Players

Lest: Chaos Daemons.

Most: They already killed my Genestealer Cult and then chopped Lost and Damned when I used it as a substitute ruleset. I'm almost afraid to play my Cult as anything else in case it gets the axe as well.

I would be unhappy to see any go as it would mean a friend would be losing their army.

I think Dark Eldar and Sister are the only armies I've not seen played at our games club but I still wouldn't like to see them go as it would damage the product as a whole IMO.

Firstly, Id gladly pay $70 for an sm superdex. Also i wouldnt take a second glance if they removed DE. Necrons I think could go, but my friend plays as them so yeah...

Id be quite upset to see any of the inquisiton go, they are the elephant in the room here, the people who have just as much chance as being dropped due to outdatedness as anyone else (theyd still be a part of fluff, and maybe have 1 elites choice to take as a IG/SM army, but I can see them being dropped)

Kanluwen wrote:

Morathi's Darkest Sin wrote:
Most - Sisters of Battle. Some folks don't like them, but they are a fun concept that would be given a whole fresh lease of life with decent plastics.
It's also telling that the two women I personally know who play this game both want Sister armies if they go plastic, and five other women I have seen either at 40K doubles or in a store also have had sisters.

It's not even the whole "metal models only!" thing that's the issue. The backstory for them sucks, as does the fanbase that has seemed to cropped up around them.

They're either fanatical zealots who act as the militant arm of the Ecclesiarchy and are only so well-supplied/trained due to the fact that they're called upon by the Ordo Hereticus...or they're some kind of supertactical femmarines who can do everything better than Space Marines and Imperial Guard combined, and have access to every single thing in the Imperial armory and can outrank an Inquisitor's authority, etc etc.

It's stupid fluff that needs to be brought back in line by someone who isn't a Sisters fanboi.

I can honestly see them "Squatting" Sisters if the C: GK doesn't meet expectations.

In the current rules environment, you just know that Acts of Faith are going to become just another version of 'orders', ala the IG.

GW's response will just be to use "Counts As" and the IG codex, and you're good to go...

"IF"?

GW appears to have squatted both Dogs of War and Chaos Dwarves in Fantasy, along with Dark Eldar in 40k.

@Alph - That is likely I'd sadly admit.

Fluff issues are personal in my mind, some are going to like them, some won't. To be fair GW themselves aren't exactly masters of background writing.

Its all pretty basic at its heart, Sisters with a few tweaks, plastics to the range, for me means a female army potentially could do well.
Heck, there are a few modelling companies doing very well (in comparrison of their size) due to their female ranges, so demand exists.

As to women playing other races, aye the two I know do already, one has Tyranids/Space Marines (Dark Eldar by the end of the year as well) and the other Necrons.
But both like the idea of using a female themed army as well, to lose that possibility would be a shame.

Although I do fear, the rage from gamers that will be incoming as soon as the female marine brigade realise how easy it will be to merge plastic sisters and Marine parts will be legendary.

A lot of women I've met play Eldars.

This "women play Sisters and Eldar" thing is foreign to me.

IG, Necrons, Tyranids, Daemons, and Dark Eldar.

I don't think I'd NOTICE if they discontinued dark eldar, because I've never SEEN a dark eldar army played

While I think any race could be discontinued if they were correctly written out (ie given a good send-off, with a legitimate reason, story, and buildup) your question specified 'like the Squats' which I take to mean: 'Never mentioned again, ignored, forgotten, and all existence past or present denied in its totality.'

So, in that case, I fervently hope that such a fate befalls the Tyranids. Please oh please.

Which would I be most upset about? Space Marines.

And while there are others I dislike, I don't think they deserve the Squat treatment.

Least, Tau as they're not grimdark enough and wouldn't be all that hard to retcon.

Most(discounting armies like SM and IG that they couldn't possibly retcon) would be Dark Eldar or Witchhunters, as both are highly significant to the story yet sorely outdated.

I don't want any of them gone but as many if not most others seem to feel, I would combine a few codices to make room for new stuff. Something like this:

Necrons
Necron, Ad-Mech..............Just a joke, Necrons would be single codex.(Look below)

Imperium(4 Codices)
IG, Combined SM, Combined Inquisition, Ad-Mech

Chaos(2 Codices)
Chaos SM, Lost and the Damned

Eldar(2 Codices)
Craftworld, Dark Eldar(Both get access to Exodites and Harlequins)

Orks (Single Codex)

Tau (Single Codex)

Tyranids (Single Codex)


This would speed up the release schedule or allow room for 2-3 more codices for a 5 year cycle w/3 releases a year.

Proposed new factions

Ad-Mech(Already mentioned and counted)

LatD(Already mentioned and counted)


Space Dwarves(Not Squats but what GW has said dwarves would be if returned, something closer to the proud warrior archtype rather than drunken bikers)

Codex Mercs(Codex Rogue Traders?)- A SM sized codex that pulls rag tag outcasts into one book. Would pick and choose from a list containing 4-5 units from each of the following factions :
Orks, Kroot, Farsight, IG, Eldar and Dwarves


Room for one more Faction


Now back to the OP's original questions:
If forced to chose which would bother me least and most:

Least-One of the SMs. I don't like the models and don't like much of the new revised fluff.

Most-Tau, They are my primary army, I have 10,000+ points worth and would be a little more than mildly irritated if they were squatted. It would make little sense also in that they are one of the more popular armies.

Those are some good ideas, nice to know I'm not the only one who wants an Ad-Mech dex

Like I said before I'd divorce the GK and SOB from the inquisition but otherwise your codex list is pretty solid

asimo77 wrote:Those are some good ideas, nice to know I'm not the only one who wants an Ad-Mech dex

Like I said before I'd divorce the GK and SOB from the inquisition but otherwise your codex list is pretty solid

I combined to free up space and because I believe that the book could be made to have 3 viable armies that can operate independently while sharing a connection to the Ecclesiarchy.

The point is moot though. From some of the hints and rumors, your wish may be coming true, at least partially. Looks like the Sisters will get separated to work for the Adeptus Ministorum, while the Grey Knights will become the main arm of the Inquisition.
I don't like the idea and if true will come acrooss as a PC move that makes no sense other than to create an all wimen army that is beholding to no man. This is not to say that I think and all female army is bad, I just think it could be better executed than seperating an obviously religious organization from the Eccliesiarchy. Instead, I'd like to have Codex Amazon be an outside Empire. HHMMmmm... I like that. Might have to edit this idea in up above. An Empire of Amazonian females might contrast nicely against the Imperium. What do you think?

Army I'd mind the least to see gone? Grey Knights. They have NO point as an army. None. Whatsoever.

Army I'd mind the most? Probably Space Marines, vanilla flavored. Too iconic.

focusedfire wrote:

asimo77 wrote:Those are some good ideas, nice to know I'm not the only one who wants an Ad-Mech dex

Like I said before I'd divorce the GK and SOB from the inquisition but otherwise your codex list is pretty solid

I combined to free up space and because I believe that the book could be made to have 3 viable armies that can operate independently while sharing a connection to the Ecclesiarchy.

The point is moot though. From some of the hints and rumors, your wish may be coming true, at least partially. Looks like the Sisters will get separated to work for the Adeptus Ministorum, while the Grey Knights will become the main arm of the Inquisition.
I don't like the idea and if true will come acrooss as a PC move that makes no sense other than to create an all wimen army that is beholding to no man. This is not to say that I think and all female army is bad, I just think it could be better executed than seperating an obviously religious organization from the Eccliesiarchy. Instead, I'd like to have Codex Amazon be an outside Empire. HHMMmmm... I like that. Might have to edit this idea in up above. An Empire of Amazonian females might contrast nicely against the Imperium. What do you think?

If it's Codex: Ecclesiarchy and not Codex: SOB there could be room for dudes, like arco-flagellants, priests, confessors, and maybe others.

I suppose I wouldn't mind GK sticking with =I= too much tbh. The Ecclesiarchy should be separate though, the inq are made to monitor them and then there's the whole radical bit, so inquisitors dont necessarily have to be super zealots.

I think the deathwatch should be the only chamber militant to stick with the inq. Mostly because I can't stand GK. They take the cheesiest most Mary Sue guys (space marines) and then have an even better version of them.

Also being in one physical book is fine like the current WH dex. I just want all my inq ordos togethor and expanded on and some Deathwatch please.

Armies I could see going:
Necons- I just can't see them ever working. I have been playing for a few years and never seen a necron army on the table (aside from shop display armies).

Dark Angels- We have lots of marine armies and they can (kind of) be justified because they bring a unique theme to the army. Unfortunately for DA the new SM and SW mean that codex: DA doesn't really add anything.

Armies I want to stay:
DE- I think they could end up working well if GW put some time and effort in.

Tau- I love them for being so different to the rest of 40k.

I'd be least upset over Dark Eldar... but only because I just can't ever see myself play such a blatantly evil army. As for most... well hell, all three armies I play qualify-- Orks, Imperial Guard, and Sisters. The first two are completely and utterly necessary for 40k to actually be at all interesting for me, and the latter is my favorite faction so it'd be sucky to see them removed.

Luthon1234 wrote:Least upset: Witchhunters and Daemonhunters, they don't bring anything new to the 40k scene other than female space marines

lol@ignorance

If Sisters were female Space Marines, there wouldn't be so many arguments about it, but I suppose bringing logic into the discussion isn't going to help much.


Also, lo@people claiming "Feminism" and "political correctness". As if GW gives a damn about either.

Melissia wrote:I suppose bringing logic into the discussion isn't going to help much.

Oh lawd.

Oh lawd.

I'm sorry, my head is nearly exploding trying to process the magnitude of the irony here.

SaintHazard wrote:I'm sorry, my head is nearly exploding trying to process the magnitude of the irony here.

There is no irony here for you to laugh at.

Melissia wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:I'm sorry, my head is nearly exploding trying to process the magnitude of the irony here.

There is no irony here for you to laugh at.

I refer you to every thread ever that includes an argument about GW canon from you.

And your apparent immunity to logic.

SaintHazard wrote:

Melissia wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:I'm sorry, my head is nearly exploding trying to process the magnitude of the irony here.

There is no irony here for you to laugh at.

I refer you to every thread ever that includes an argument about GW canon from you.

And your apparent immunity to logic.

I am not immune to logic, most people are simply incapable of providing solid enough logic and facts to counter my arguments.

Melissia wrote:I'd be least upset over Dark Eldar... but only because I just can't ever see myself play such a blatantly evil army. As for most... well hell, all three armies I play qualify-- Orks, Imperial Guard, and Sisters. The first two are completely and utterly necessary for 40k to actually be at all interesting for me, and the latter is my favorite faction so it'd be sucky to see them removed.

Luthon1234 wrote:Least upset: Witchhunters and Daemonhunters, they don't bring anything new to the 40k scene other than female space marines

lol@ignorance

If Sisters were female Space Marines, there wouldn't be so many arguments about it, but I suppose bringing logic into the discussion isn't going to help much.


Also, lo@people claiming "Feminism" and "political correctness". As if GW gives a damn about either.

I wouldn't say that they are Female "Spess Mehrens", but you can admit that they are damn close enough that one can easily mistake the concept for Female Space Marines.

Now, if they only had actual armor instead of Boobcups...

Melissia wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:

Melissia wrote:

SaintHazard wrote:I'm sorry, my head is nearly exploding trying to process the magnitude of the irony here.

There is no irony here for you to laugh at.

I refer you to every thread ever that includes an argument about GW canon from you.

And your apparent immunity to logic.

I am not immune to logic, most people are simply incapable of providing solid enough logic and facts to counter my arguments.

So the fact that I did exactly that, and you subsequently ignored my entire three-post argument, with numerous cited sources and solid logic and facts in abundance, flowing forth like a river of milk and honey, the bountiful crops of my factoids and citations having sprouted like so much ripe corn and harvested by the sickle of my mind, means nothing?