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Well done on the mud effects and an ace paint job on your DK.

Keep it up

Dakka is a better place now that you're here,
those are some of the best presented models I've ever seen.

Keep on truckin',
HadoukenAvenger

These are niiice. The mud really is excellent. At first I thought the models were a bit monochromaticly painted with just the green, but it really does work. Oh, and the DKoK lasguns are just gorgeous. I allways loved the model of those, and you've really brought them out to life. So, yes, really looking forward to your Engineers aswell

You've also done great with the DKoK commander, and I do agree in general with the others that the white really make him stand out in an aristocratic way, but have you concidered trying to mat it down just a bit? The rest of the clothing and models look so gritty, but the white looks almost outta place with it's crispness. Have you thought about greying it down just a tad or adding.... don't know, a mudstain here or there? Sure, he's a Prussian-ish general, so the dirt would prolly be intimidated to stay away from him unlike his grunts, but still?

First of all, thank you for the comments

I'll do what I can to give you more eyecandy in the upcomming weeks and month (as it's quite a long time project).

Pvt. Jet wrote:If your gaming skills are half of your painting skills I see tournament victories in your future.

Well, to be honest, it's a long time since I've played a tabletop game and even than it was Fantasy. The DKoK are my first take at 40k and I said that I'd only play with painted miniatures.

But do not fear! Tomorrow the 1st company of the glorious 106th Infantrybattalion, as a part of the 18th Siege Regiment in the XIV. Expeditionary Korps "Morituri", has to stand up against it's first opponent, a horde of Orks. (Anyone interessted in the background story? I could post it.)
A friend helps me to get deeper into the rules so I get some routine. As I said, they are worth about 630 points.

Wolfed wrote:Oh, and the DKoK lasguns are just gorgeous. I allways loved the model of those, and you've really brought them out to life.

I tried to go for the k98 look. Wood and dark metal. But I fear the metal is to bright on most parts. Don't know how I should paint the Grenadiers weapons and the heavy weapons, though.

Wolfed wrote:You've also done great with the DKoK commander, and I do agree in general with the others that the white really make him stand out in an aristocratic way, but have you concidered trying to mat it down just a bit? The rest of the clothing and models look so gritty, but the white looks almost outta place with it's crispness. Have you thought about greying it down just a tad or adding.... don't know, a mudstain here or there? Sure, he's a Prussian-ish general, so the dirt would prolly be intimidated to stay away from him unlike his grunts, but still?

The problem with the white is, that because of the dark surrounding overal and thus the longer exposure time, the white allways shines extremely bright. If you look closely, in the first picture, the one with the white background, you can see that it's rather a bright grey than just white. And in my oppinion he shouldn't get more dirty than he is. Hey, he even stands on some rock so he doesn't get too dirty!

Here's an extreme macro-photography of him. I hate macro-photography on models because they show really EVERY mistake. This photo gives you more than you could see with your eyes!!



oops, he's missing some silver on his arm :(

I probably said this before, but the commander stands out a lot with that white lining on his coat. Great job!

Wow... extreme macro-photography is not kind to minis! But then The krieg are so detailed... I've spent ages painting one and am happy with it.. then I point my daylight bulb lamp at it and it shows up so many imperfections that I respray and start again. Now I'm finally getting some together that look good!

These guys are really bad arse, good job dude. I like the mud and the wire.

thank you all

Regnak wrote:Wow... extreme macro-photography is not kind to minis! But then The krieg are so detailed... I've spent ages painting one and am happy with it.. then I point my daylight bulb lamp at it and it shows up so many imperfections that I respray and start again. Now I'm finally getting some together that look good!

I know. His cast was very bad and I had to work on him quite a bit.

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--

Sooo ... the Death Korp had it's first mission. It was my first game in 40k, too, so it was mostly to get to learn the rules and get a feeling for what the Korps and see what they are able to do.

We played two games, 600 points each. My opponent had Orkz and fielded even more miniates (I had 56 he had ~ 65, I think).
He had no dice so he had to use mine - I'll never do that again, they were totally useless for me. Nothing worked - except the scatter dice. Probably because the Ork didn't touch it. Direct hits: 7 out of 10 rolls! WHOOT? I love template weapons!


They didn't even make it into the difficult terrain.

So the Ork had a mob of 33 in the beginning, 25 alive of which 20 were able to attack, with two hand weapons, hoooooly sh1t, 80 dice ...


The colonel is surrounded. He actually could do some damage.


The Sergeant is the Last Man Standing.

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--

I had fun (not as much as I would have had had I won ...) and learned a lot.

Now because of a delay with the order due to a friend not being able to tell me what he wants to order, I have the chance to rethink what I order.

My list till now was:
- some infantry, some HW teams, grenadiers, engineers

But now I think about this:
- more infantry, more heavy weapon teams (combined squads ...)

Or
- some infantry, 3 heavy mortars, 3 thudd guns (needs more template weapons!)

I'd like to stay at around 300 GBP. What would you suggest?

Definately some heavy weapons if your going to field them as foot sloggers. And maybe some artilley tank or leman russ imo.

Amazing models need an amazing paintjob, you my friend have done them justice.

Best IG army I have seen as well.

doubleT wrote:thank you all

Regnak wrote:Wow... extreme macro-photography is not kind to minis! But then The krieg are so detailed... I've spent ages painting one and am happy with it.. then I point my daylight bulb lamp at it and it shows up so many imperfections that I respray and start again. Now I'm finally getting some together that look good!

I know. His cast was very bad and I had to work on him quite a bit.

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--

Sooo ... the Death Korp had it's first mission. It was my first game in 40k, too, so it was mostly to get to learn the rules and get a feeling for what the Korps and see what they are able to do.

We played two games, 600 points each. My opponent had Orkz and fielded even more miniates (I had 56 he had ~ 65, I think).
He had no dice so he had to use mine - I'll never do that again, they were totally useless for me. Nothing worked - except the scatter dice. Probably because the Ork didn't touch it. Direct hits: 7 out of 10 rolls! WHOOT? I love template weapons!


They didn't even make it into the difficult terrain.

So the Ork had a mob of 33 in the beginning, 25 alive of which 20 were able to attack, with two hand weapons, hoooooly sh1t, 80 dice ...


The colonel is surrounded. He actually could do some damage.


The Sergeant is the Last Man Standing.

--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--

I had fun (not as much as I would have had had I won ...) and learned a lot.

Now because of a delay with the order due to a friend not being able to tell me what he wants to order, I have the chance to rethink what I order.

My list till now was:
- some infantry, some HW teams, grenadiers, engineers

But now I think about this:
- more infantry, more heavy weapon teams (combined squads ...)

Or
- some infantry, 3 heavy mortars, 3 thudd guns (needs more template weapons!)

I'd like to stay at around 300 GBP. What would you suggest?

Definatley get some heavy weapon teams. If your up against orks, heavy bolters, mortars missiles, should do the trick. Also, remember that guardsmen suck at cqc.The only thing worse then their flashlights are their crappy melee.So stay back, stick squads near each other and you should be fine.

Awesome.

DoubleT, you have ruined my life with those troops, I will never be able to paint that well, and this will haunt me forever! Damn your hide!

Seriously though, however you got the skill to paint that, I want it...Well done!

Gorgeous! Great work!

What kind of blend did you use for the brown wash?

Those are some damn fine looking minis you got there! The only thing that bothers me is that the helmet aquilas aren't marked out in any way. Even just a lighter metal color would be cool. Then again, I'm a traditionalist

GET SOME LASCANNONS

I assume you're using the Downloadable rules? its weird that DK Lascannon Squads are cheaper than normal lascannons squads!

Thx

Lascannons against hordes?

As for the bolters, yeah, makes sense. But what about the twin-linked stubber? Twin-linked means I can re-roll missed dice, right?

Munch Munch! wrote:
Definatley get some heavy weapon teams. If your up against orks, heavy bolters, mortars missiles, should do the trick. Also, remember that guardsmen suck at cqc.The only thing worse then their flashlights are their crappy melee.So stay back, stick squads near each other and you should be fine.

Wouldn't agree with that 100%. While they have only one attack due to the gun, they DO have WS4, as long as I play them with the Death Korps Army List. That's a 4+ on Orkz. I had plenty of hits! But they only wound at 5+ with lasgun or in cqc. So, no difference. But when I attack I get +1 dice (and steal this dice from him).
But yeah, S3 is bothering me against orks.

Probably the best kreig I've ever seen. Amazing work!

doubleT wrote:Thx

Lascannons against hordes?

As for the bolters, yeah, makes sense. But what about the twin-linked stubber? Twin-linked means I can re-roll missed dice, right?

Munch Munch! wrote:
Definatley get some heavy weapon teams. If your up against orks, heavy bolters, mortars missiles, should do the trick. Also, remember that guardsmen suck at cqc.The only thing worse then their flashlights are their crappy melee.So stay back, stick squads near each other and you should be fine.

Wouldn't agree with that 100%. While they have only one attack due to the gun, they DO have WS4, as long as I play them with the Death Korps Army List. That's a 4+ on Orkz. I had plenty of hits! But they only wound at 5+ with lasgun or in cqc. So, no difference. But when I attack I get +1 dice (and steal this dice from him).
But yeah, S3 is bothering me against orks.

Although you lose the ability of FRFSRF, you can even give your DK laspistols!

blob them up in 6 squads with laspistols!(lose out on dakka though)

I had to register to give you some advice (on gaming, I have nothing to teach you on painting).

First of, Orcs are not a favourite opponent for guards so you might have choosen the wrong opponent to start your career against!

If you plan on playing against hords/orks you should definately get the mortars and thudguns-option. However, to keep it fair you might hold back a little and don't get 3 of each at once or that ork player might not want to play against you again as your guns will make mashed mushrooms out of his orks!

thx Kemimutt,
as a former player of dwarfes I know that I have to control the urge to just bombe the gak out of my opponent. I understand what you are saying and as I said, I want infantry and I want them to engage, too. I don't want to just sit back and shoot (allthough that's fun sometimes, too). On the other hand, the Ork player wouldn't have much problems against a harder army of mine. He didn't give me any bonus for this being my first game. He helped me with the rules and such, but his army was pretty hard and maxed out for 600 pts.

That Orkz aren't the best opponent to start with was relatively clear to me, but atm I have not very much options. As I just started with 40k, I'm looking for people to play against. Some friends from Fantasy started 40k aswell, but they are not ready to field an army, yet. (We only field painted and based armies.)

Money would also be an argument against buying both batteries at once, since I want infantry, too.
But I cannot decide between heavy mortarts (5", re-roll scatter dice) and thudd guns (4x3", -1 on pinning test). One each? two each?

kenshin620 wrote:
Although you lose the ability of FRFSRF, you can even give your DK laspistols!

blob them up in 6 squads with laspistols!(lose out on dakka though)

Now look, this was an advice I was looking for.
I think I never would have thought of that. There's some potential with a combined squad of, let's say 30 men with vox, commissar and maybe the Quartermaster behind them.
3 attack dice when I attack, Feel no Pain + execution re-roll, stubborn Ld 10.

doubleT wrote:thx Kemimutt,
as a former player of dwarfes I know that I have to control the urge to just bombe the gak out of my opponent. I understand what you are saying and as I said, I want infantry and I want them to engage, too. I don't want to just sit back and shoot (allthough that's fun sometimes, too). On the other hand, the Ork player wouldn't have much problems against a harder army of mine. He didn't give me any bonus for this being my first game. He helped me with the rules and such, but his army was pretty hard and maxed out for 600 pts.

That Orkz aren't the best opponent to start with was relatively clear to me, but atm I have not very much options. As I just started with 40k, I'm looking for people to play against. Some friends from Fantasy started 40k aswell, but they are not ready to field an army, yet. (We only field painted and based armies.)

Money would also be an argument against buying both batteries at once, since I want infantry, too.
But I cannot decide between heavy mortarts (5", re-roll scatter dice) and thudd guns (4x3", -1 on pinning test). One each? two each?

kenshin620 wrote:
Although you lose the ability of FRFSRF, you can even give your DK laspistols!

blob them up in 6 squads with laspistols!(lose out on dakka though)

Now look, this was an advice I was looking for.
I think I never would have thought of that. There's some potential with a combined squad of, let's say 30 men with vox, commissar and maybe the Quartermaster behind them.
3 attack dice when I attack, Feel no Pain + execution re-roll, stubborn Ld 10.

Yea the FNP is cool. Problem is though they can get picked out quickly so be sure to shove them in between men/vehicles.

Wow simply stunning great work!

and i just started guard to and i play against my friends ork hoard and just cant figure it out. I dont do pretty good in shooting but 5 nobs can kill 20 guardsmen and lose 1... im at loss on how to handle them i have developed kamikaze tactic with a vet squad with as many flamers/demo charge i can get and put them in a chimera with 2 heavy flamers and drive it at the biggest mush of green i can find. and that works well. Just an idea.

Your models are simply the best looking models I've seen...

Why?

Because they look so real...

Your figures are jawdroppingly good ... I think you got the balance of mud just about right.

Just off to the Gallery to cast my vote!

hello double t,
yeah, you made it again cristal clear that when you want to build a guard army there is only on option for coolness: DKOK!

on a side note: how did you manage the gunstraps? i try to create some for some unique poses for my sm. the hanging ones from some sprues just dont cut it for me any more. i want my bolters also hanging from shoulders or let them mariens stand to attention...

thanks in advance^^

thx, guys

@IHEARTLARGEBLASTTEMPLATES: I want to play them with the DKoK rules from FW. Unfortunately, the Siege Regiment Army List doesn't allow them to use Chimeras. I don't like them that much anyway and I want a footslogger army.

Necroagogo wrote:Your figures are jawdroppingly good ... I think you got the balance of mud just about right.
Just off to the Gallery to cast my vote!

Thank you. Special thanks to all those who vote.

Viktor von Domm wrote:how did you manage the gunstraps? i try to create some for some unique poses for my sm. the hanging ones from some sprues just dont cut it for me any more. i want my bolters also hanging from shoulders or let them mariens stand to attention...

Let's see ...

Meanwhile I made another gun strap for the other guy that is preparing to throw a granade.

And then I went crazy:
When these two guys have gun straps, why don't the others have them??






And now I'm sitting here with 40+ guys waiting for gun straps.

When compared to the gun straps of the standard bearer, I noticed two minor mistakes that I'll try to take care of. But these are just things to make them look more like the FW straps ...

They are just made from ~ 1mm wide stripes of a little thicker paper. It's relatively easy to do.

You see, only way I can see anyone justifying spending the money on a FW Krieg army would be if they could paint them this well.

Great job, mate.

for the gunstrapes you only used paper?? cool. was it just the normal 80g paper as for printing? should have some floating in the house to try^^.

and yeah, go for the 40+ soldiers with gunstrapes, wouldnt make sensé otherwise... i mean i can imagine having granades or kevlarvests as an optional upgrade when the get kitted but gunstrpes i think are just so common...

li truly ike your work