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Thanks LeBaron!

I'm hoping to have it mostly together on Thursday night, in preparation for painting over the weekend.
The idea for the tail has been rolling around my head for a while, so I really want to see what it looks like when it's finished.

   
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love the tail, but that breast seems a bit too big, but may just be the pic

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I wasn't sure on the breast size - I couldn't seem to get it looking "right", whereas on the soulgrinder, I got it to the point where I felt like I knew it was right. I think it'll look okay once the body's attached to that tail, which will make the prince look bigger, but I may have to cut it off and try again if it looks wrong there.

   
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Yeah, i would see what it looks like with the model all put together since at the moment i think it is as big as the creature's head, which may be demon like (the various bodyparts not fitting our standards of size, if that makes sense) it may look silly. i love the idea of it though. its nice to see someone use the DP model for something new!

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I think part of the problem is to me at least, the head of the daemon prince seems a little small for the size of the torso. I suppose that's to emphasize that it's a big muscle-bound death machine rather than a big-brained contemplative thinker, but I think the exaggerated proportions are a part of why I found it hard to get the breast looking the right size.

Or maybe I just haven't seen a real breast recently enough

   
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Thursday evening update, right on schedule. Or maybe not, since it's now so late that it's technically Friday morning. Oh well.

Made progress on the Slaanesh Daemon Prince:



As you can see, I've got the armour segments over the wires of the tail now, have attached the torso (now with wings), and added a Tyranid scything talon to the end of the tail. Still need to fix up the join between the torso and tail a bit. I'm more happy with the breast now that I see it's size in comparison to the whole model, although I think the shape is still slightly off. I'm inclined to leave it that way since I'm not sure I'll be able to do any better (or even as well) on a second attempt. Opinions?

Here I'm holding the head in place to see how it looks on the body. I think the tentacle on the back of the head is too long, and needs to be shortened to finish just beyond where the ridges stop, but again, I'm looking for second opinions on this stuff.

I'm also considering leaving this guy without arms - I could greenstuff over the shoulders, and just let him have the tail for a weapon instead. If I do go with arms, I think I'd have a mechanical whip sort of thing in the right hand (can convert from one of the various weapon-holding hands and a flexible mech-tentacle thing I got from a cheap PC microphone), with a scorpion tail (or something equally vicious looking) at the tip. I'm not sure what to do with the left hand - I don't want it to be another close combat weapon (since DPs don't get 2 CCWs, and anyway he already has a blade on his tail) but I also don't just want an empty hand. If the right hand holds a whip, I'd prefer the left arm not to have a hadn at all, but to terminate in some form of tech-thingie, maybe a weapon, maybe not. Was considering having the arm end with a missle launcher I have left over from my drop pod, but I'm not sure. Would really appreciate ideas on how to kit this guy out. I'd definately prefer to have one arm be a hand holding a weapon, and the other not a hand, but jsut ending in some form of cyber-dodad, but not really sure what. Any ideas for the left arm, or suggestions other than a whip for the right arm weapon, please let me know! Or should I just let him go without arms entirely?

In other news, while trying out the various arms to see how they looked, I realised that the daemon prince kit has multiple options for everything except the legs (which I haven't used) and the back half of the torso (which seems reasonably easy to replace with greenstuff and kitbashing. So I think I can make another daemon prince from this kit
I played around with some blu-tak and got something I quite like for a Nurgle DP using rotor blades from a deffkopter (convineiently, but somewhat sadly, dropped off this evening by a friend leaving the hobby), a back plate from a Carnifex, and a hatch from a space marine tank. Unfortunately, it's nearly 2am (I was supposed to be in bed by 1), and that batch of images are going to take a while to upload. So I'll leave them uploading and go get some rest, then post them when I have time tomorrow, probably sometime after lunch.

In the meantime, any comments on the Slaanesh DP are welcome and encouraged, especially regarding how (or if) to arm him, and opinions of the breast and head, or other aspects of the conversion work.

CodGod out - for now.

   
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It's looking good, I think where the body and 'tail' meets needs a bit more work. It looks like it's sort of jabbed together. The rest of it looks amazing.
   
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You are just absolutely incredible, this has really inspired me to make my own custom figures instead of just doing what there is in the box. Got some truly awesome stuff here.

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@AZ2612: Thanks I don't think I'm THAT amazing, but you should definitely try your hand at converting your models sometime, it's really fun, and not as hard as it seems at first. EDIT: And I see you're doing 'nids - brilliant. A very fun army to put together, and the possibilities for conversions are almost endless.

@LeBaron: Yeah, I've set aside a couple of armour pieces from the DP kit which I think I can put around there to help make the join look a little better. I'll be having a go at that tonight, with any luck

And here are the pics I promised of the concept mock-up for my Daemon Prince of Nurgle:

The front looks pretty much like a normal prince...


The upper back is a carnifex back plate, and rotor blades from a deffkopta as wings. The plan is to actually have two blades on each side, overlapping at the top but spread out slightly at the bottom, but it was easy to just use one each side on the concept model. They're supposed to be reminiscent of fly wings - do you think they work for that?
The Nurgle daemons will probably be using a lot of ork bitz, I want the mechanical parts to look covered in rust and like they're constantly on brink of falling apart.


Below that is a hatch from a SM tank (which will need to be roughed up a bit). I plan to have an appendage stick out from the hatch, but looking like it could be pulled back in for safe keeping. Probably a stinger of some sort, dripping with poison - seems pretty Nurgly to me, but I'm interested to hear if any of you have other suggestions.



And here are some side shots so you can see where the bits are roughly in relation to each other. Obviously I'll need a decent amount of greenstuff in the middle to form the torso, and I'll have to try to sculpt it to look right.. But If I pull it off I'll have gotten two Daemon Princes from one kit, for which my wallet will thank me.

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Wow, looking great.
   
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Looking good, really like the DP's so far.

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Thanks guys. Made a little progress tonight, got the join between the body and tail of the Slaanesh DP covered over with some spare 'nid parts, and have started putting together the Nurgle DP - wings attached to back plate, hatch attached to torso and I've got a stinger pointing out of it. I'll post some pics in the morning.


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Progress on Nurgle Prince:

Here are the two main parts of the prince, the legs/torso front with the hatch now attached, and the back plat with wings.


A close up of the hatch, with stinger. I've added vein-like growths across the hatch doors to make it look less "clean"



And here are two shots of the parts together. The back plate will be angled slightly more than this on the finished models, with the wings being slightly higher at the back.

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Small update: Slaanesh DP weapons


The end of the mechano-whip is supposed to look like a scopion's stinger, although I don't think I got it quite right. And since I didn't want to give him another weapon in his other hand, I've gone for a shield made from plasticard and greenstuff. The shield is fused to the end of the arm, rather than being held.

Also made a little more process on the Nurgle DP (he has one arm, and I've started building a scythe for him to hold in the other. If people want to see it I can take pics, but otherwise I'll leave it until I've made a bit more progress on him.

I won't have any time to work on my models until Tuesday evening at the earliest, but will be checking back here, so in the meantime, C & C are welcome, as always.

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Nurgle is my God and you are doing him justice. I like the chopper blade wings, sort of give him a bug like look. As always, great job!
   
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I love the use of cables for your DP. I also think the breast is a bit large however.

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I love the head on the slaanesh prince. Dont change it!

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@LeBaron: Thanks! The bug wings were an idea from my friend - I was thinking of having a rotor blade on his back. I'm glad he suggested it, as I think they've really worked out. As far as going Nurgle justice goes, do you have any ideas so a good Nurgly-looking head? I don't want to just use one of the standard ones from the kit without modding it, but I'm not sure what to do.

@MADLarkin: Thanks for the comments. I'm glad you like my work. As far as the breast goes, I'm still not sure whether to leave it as is or try to redo it. I do think it's slightly too big, but not very much, and I'm a little afraid that if I remove it and try again I'll end up making it worse. So I'm still thinking about that one, although I'll need to make a decision soon, as if I'm going to do a new breast, it'll have to be before I attach the head.

@ghosty: I'm really glad you like my work, but unfortunately I have already shortened the tentacle on the Slaanesh prince's head a bit. I had greenstuff left over from the work I was doing on the Nurgle prince, and since I didn't want it to go to waste and I'd been thinking of doing it, I decided to give it a go. looking at it now I have to admit I'm not 100% sure if it was an improvement or not. Here's a pic of the new head, note that it does actually curl up a bit at the end more than it looks from this angle.

What do you think - is it better/worse? Have I screwed up and should I try to extend it again? I'm really not sure. I thought I'd like it more than I did once I'd done it.

   
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I'm really liking the slaanesh DP. The breast does seem a bit mishapen. If you are going to be relying very heavily on gs for this army i feel it would be a worthy investment to pick up some sculpting tools. It would really smooth out your gs and look 1000x better.
   
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Hmm... the end of the headtail seems a bit fat just yet, but besides that it still works with a shorter tail. And for your Nurgly prince, how about having a head with some large pipes/ wires hanging out at random places, dripping toxic slop? I'm thinking something like the Plaguereaper but with, of course, the 'organic' components of a daemon


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Looking great, the shield is going to be incredible when attached. I can see where you think you didn't get the scorpion tail right, I just think it's a bit too round. Anyway, can't wait for the next post!

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Like what you've got so far on both those DPs, but I do think it'll probably be worth re-doing that breast slightly smaller. At the moment I think once the model is done that's going to detract from all the other goodness going on there. Preferred the longer head tail, but the shorter one still works, just a personal preference

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Thanks guys. Seems the consensus is I should redo the breast, so I'm going to have a go at that on Tuesday evening. I do need to sand down the join between the plastic and greenstuffed parts of the head tentacle, because it's a little thinker there than it should be.

@TheChronoTrigger: I do have some sculpting tools, but for some things I find it much easier to work with my fingers, because I can feel how much pressure I'm putting on, and not push it too far. The main tools I use are a pair of clay shapers (which are shat I mostly used on the breast, but also my fingers), but unfortunately they're a little larger than I'd like for some of my work because I haven't found anywhere down here which sells them in the smaller sizes. I also have some basic plastic tools, but I don't use them much since getting the clay shapers.

@Lord Kaesar II: That's not a bad idea for the head, thanks. I'll keep it in mind.

   
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Hmmm... I'd have to say for a Nurgle head on that sort of a body (the whole organic/mech combo) I'd have to go with something that looks to be a mix of Adeptus and Deamon.

Your DP reminds me of an Oblit with the mixture you have now so an Oblit style head would fits perfectly. Just remember to add decay and rot to the organic portion of your Nurgle DP head.
   
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Thanks, LeBaron. I've never seen the oblit's head before, but I took a look at some in the gallery, and I think I see what you mean. Would be quite tricky to do, but could look really nice.
One thing I have been thinking of is trying to tie into the "bug" look from this wings a bit on the face - maybe with a compound eye or something. I also kind of like the idea of having the bottom jaw missing, as though it's rotted off - but I don't know how well I'll be able to achieve that look on that scale.

I'll have a dig through the bits box for inspiration on Tuesday.

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Tomb spyder face with extra bits and bobs, then

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Thanks Lord Kaesar II! Another one which I hadn't seen in person before, but having checked out the tomb spider face in the gallery, that looks really good. I really like that on one side it has three eyes, arranged pretty much like the symbol of Nurgle.

For now, I think that's the plan then - obtain a tomb spider head, leave the side with three eyes as is, and greenstuff flesh over the other half, possibly with one large compound eye, although I'd like it to also look somewhat human as well.

Of course, that means I now have to buy a tomb spider, which means waiting a little bit until I can afford more models. On the plus side, the rest of the spider also looks like it could be quite useful for cyberdaemon conversions. The legs look quite nice, and I could potentially use the back part as part of a Chariot of Tzeentch. So at least I can tell myself I'm not buying a whole tomb spider just for it's face

   
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Progress has been made!

First, the Nurgle prince:

The head is going to have to wait until I either get a tomb scorpion head, or find an idea I like better for a Nurgly conversion.




The weapon he's holding will be a scythe. I'll need to pick up some rod to form a new, longer handle for it.


Here you can see the wings and the hatches for the stinger. I drilled out the stinger with my dremel tool to make it look more capable of pumping toxins into victims.






And here's the head of the scythe, converted from plasticard and the axe from the Daemon Prince kit.

This guy's getting pretty close to finished, apart from the head. Let me know what you think.
I won't still be up by the time they finish uploading, but expect pics of the Slaanesh prince tomorrow, I was finishing him off while these pics uploaded. He's almost entirely done now, with a redone breast, and the head tentacle back to the original length - wasn't happy with the shorter one, but found the bit I'd cut off and with a little pinning and greenstuff, was able to get it back. So look forward to seeing him to.

In the meantime, What do you think of ol' Nugly here?

   
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Your Nurgle dp is going well, besides that, as always, I must say I find that left arm kinda silly. Myself, I'd just go for a class Nurgly 2 armed swish of the scythe. But, arm gripes aside, he's turning out quite well!

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@Lord Kaesar II: Thanks! I'd considered trying to reposition the arms so that he could hold the scythe in both hands, but it seemed like it was going to be quite tricky, and that arm was the only left arm I had after using the other one on the Slaanesh prince. I actually kind of like the look of it although if I am considering removing the hand and converting something else in it's place. I have no idea what.

Here's the pics I promised of the Slaanesh prince:

First look at him with the arms on, and also the first pic I've posted since adding the 'nid parts to cover the join between the tail and torso. Rejoice, lovers of the original head, it's back, nearly as good as new! The details on the shield are supposed to look vaguely organic.


The shield arm.


And of course the whip arm.


Here you can see the little radar dish from the SM Whirlwind, which I used because I couldn't get one of the 'nid parts to fit in and cover that part of the join. I just grabbed that because it looked the right size/shape and was vaguely technological. Note the details on the shield extend to the back as well (they didn't before last night - I really shoud have thought of doing that BEFORE attaching the arm).


Top down view. As you can see, both the shield and whip extend noticeably beyond the base, although the whip as least is high enough that it won't matter.


This shot makes the whip look way longer than it actually is.


These last two are close ups, in particular you can see the new, smaller breast. Nipple still to come.


Another close up, this time from the side. Some of the greenstuff needs sanding down a bit.

So there you have it, let me know what you think!

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Wonderful work as always. The shield is sick, absolutely love how it's looking. Quite creative with the nid parts covering the waist, it gives it a more armor/organic look.

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