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oni wrote:There were supposed to be extended scenes shown at Games Day UK last Saturday. Did anyone happen to see this or get video of it?

Saw it, no one was allowed to video it. It was an upcoming trailer you got to see. Didn't show much of the story just a lot of shooting and shouting ultramarines.

Talked with the producer after and he said it's out in two moths and there will "probably" be a blue ray release too.

Im feeling rather negative about the whole movie myself. I do hope they pull it off but if its anything like that trailer, I doubt ill watch the whole thing.

Personally I would have taken the scale of the 3D marines and changed it a bit. Even to the point of putting far more detail into the suits, making them more complex. It is the year 40k afterall. Think of the detail for the 3D Transformers or Iron Mans suit moving about to fit onto his body.

GW seems to scared to push the movie into new realms which is a pity and their downfall. Everything from the modeling, textures and animation looks very plain and cheap.

Prove me wrong GW.

whatwhat wrote:Saw it, no one was allowed to video it. It was an upcoming trailer you got to see.

I don't think they quite understand the concept of a trailer. First they release a trailer that fails to advertise any reason to watch the movie (not even mentioning that Dan Abnett wrote it), then they create a new trailer and don't let anyone see it.

AlexHolker wrote:

whatwhat wrote:Saw it, no one was allowed to video it. It was an upcoming trailer you got to see.

I don't think they quite understand the concept of a trailer. First they release a trailer that fails to advertise any reason to watch the movie (not even mentioning that Dan Abnett wrote it), then they create a new trailer and don't let anyone see it.

Erm, it was a preview of an upcoming trailer. I'm sure you will get to see it at some point.

Anyone notice that the stain glass window in the chapel is the art from the Macragge box set?

oni wrote:Anyone notice that the stain glass window in the chapel is the art from the Macragge box set?

Unleash the easter eggs!

This shot in particular gives me a Beast Wars vibe. Anyone else feeling it?

FM Ninja 048 wrote:Squad redus shirtaus, ASSEMBLE!

BROTHER DECIUS - a newly-promoted battle brother.

BROTHER MAXILLIUS - a newly-promoted battle brother.

BROTHER HYPAX - a newly-promoted battle brother.

BROTHER JUNOR - a newly-promoted battle brother.

BROTHER REMULUS - a newly-promoted battle brother.

BROTHER BOREAS - a newly-promoted battle brother.

BROTHER LYCOS - a newly-promoted battle brother.

yeah, from watching that 1 and a half minute trailer (where the first minute is just talk and smoke practically with no action), i think you see what happens to all those newly promoted battle brothers. i hope they have the apothecary nearby.

My guess is that 5 Marines come back.

you can be sure the guys that don't have faces yet will die

Or, maybe (it has happened in the videogame industry before) the trailer was put out in a hurry and doesn't represent the final quality of the movie.

It could (not saying it will be) still be re-rendered to a final, "higher" quality. Even if it's not... most people do not realize that this is not GW's work, it's an external company. Not a big one, at that. They're giving this studio an opportunity to produce work that many here have wanted for years, complete with gore and whatnot.

Now people are comparing it to beast wars. Easy. Don't like it, don't watch it. This does not have the same budget as the transformers movie. The group possibly had to cut down costs to make it to a final release.

Finally, the old marines. Some chapters, not all, maintain senior members that act as advisors (which it seems, the old man was doing) as they've far from their best in the physical sense. The whole concept of "marines being immortal" is just stupid - they aren't primarchs - and completely undermines one of the ideas behind the Blood Angels, seeing as their more artistic side stems from them being "the longest lived Marines".

I take what I see in the Rulebooks and Codecii as fluff, but I'll clench my jaw at the thought of what Dan Abnett wrote being hailed as that. I think of Ibram Gaunt the same way I think of Ciaphas Cain, nice stories but that's that.

I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.

Grey Templar wrote:My guess is that 5 Marines come back.

you can be sure the guys that don't have faces yet will die

Considering 4 of them get shot to pieces in the trailer... Yea, I can agree with this.

Necros wrote:it's because space marines are like wine, they get better with age

If by "age" you mean "every codex", then yes.

Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.

the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.

Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.

the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.

I haven't read the last 'dex, but Dante was always said to be around 1100 years old, and that being extremely long for a Space Marine (though, on the other side, they didn't state if it was due to him wanting to lead from the front).

(was going to post a lot of stuff about the Armageddon wars, but found this in the Lexicanum instead - "Dante is the oldest living Space Marine in the Imperium").

I think the geezer was a nod to the fact that Space Marines do grow old, and reach a point where they are forced to retire to handle the scout training/advising younger Captains.

Well, Dante is still a capable Warrior and fights often.


the only thing i have seen "retire" a Space Marine is an injury that requires such extensive and complicated Augmatics that he can't function in a battlefield role anymore, and as such gets regulated to training aspirants or manning a position in the chapter fleet. essentially handicapped.

Though the precise source eludes me (4th or 5th Space Marine Codex), I think it was clearly stated that some of the non-combative personnel were in fact Space Marines who, due to age and/or injury were forced into "retirement".

But this is something that's been largely discussed, I guess we'll have to wait for the movie to come out :p

I'm not counting the days 'till the release but ever since Final Liberation I've been waiting for some sort of movie to come out. At least we can't complain about the "grimdark" 40k, judging by the violence in the trailer.

I have to say the marine's apparent age is far to old in many cases. They don't look like they can fight for anything other than the tapioca pudding. Their sullen cheeks and gauntish appearance is just too much, they look weak. I can accept winkles and gray hair and all that for them, but this is just beyond what it should be.

I managed to pick out a decent amount of the storyline from the trailer, well, along with wasting far too many hours reading tvtropes.

Iron Warriors attack an Imperial Fists Shrine World, massacring its defenders except for a single Imperial Fist.

The Ultramarines arrive as reinforcements to help, join up with the survivor.

Butt kicking and getting their butts kicked proceeds to occur.

There's assorted paranoia about characters becoming 'tainted by chaos'

Then, to start wild mass guessing, I wouldn't be surprised results in suspicion being made on the surviving Fist (who's loyal all along and dies proving it.)

Then I'm pretty much guessing that the storyline goes roughly in the same direction as Dawn of War 1 with Isador and Gabrial expys.

looks like that old Battle Tech cartoon, when they went 3d!! or a crap star wars cartoon!!! lets just see how this goes, i really hope it takes in the alian races and chaos, i dare say that this is the start of a verry long franchise(knowing games workshop) also...lets thank the gods....Michael Bay had nothing to do with this!!

Grey Templar wrote:

Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.

the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.

Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.

the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.

The oldest living "loyalist" marine the others went in the 13th company are still alive and kicking chaos butt.

sonofruss wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.

the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.

Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.

the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.

The oldest living "loyalist" marine the others went in the 13th company are still alive and kicking chaos butt.

you are indeed correct. although they are probably about Bjorns age. maybe some are older

Grey Templar wrote:

sonofruss wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:

Aduro wrote:I know the old fluff had marines aging incredibly slowly. A bio on I believe one of the Ultramarines characters talking about him being one of the oldest living (non-dreadnought) marines around. A guy so ancient, his hair had actually Started to turn grey.

the title for "oldest marine not in a dreadnought" is shared(depending on source) between Dante and Logan Grimnar.

Dante's age varies between 700 and 1k. Logan is hovering around 1k.

the oldest living marine is Bjorn the Fell handed. 10k+some odd years.

The oldest living "loyalist" marine the others went in the 13th company are still alive and kicking chaos butt.

you are indeed correct. although they are probably about Bjorns age. maybe some are older

It's also stated in the BA Codex that some of the chapter's Furioso Dreadnoughts are about this same age, having fought at the time of the Horus Heresy and all. None of them are named or specifically called out though.

Grey Templar wrote:
you are indeed correct. although they are probably about Bjorns age. maybe some are older

The problem with the 13th Co. is that they live in the warp where time flows differently. In Soul Hunter it talks about how decades have passed for the Nightlords where hundreds of years have passed for the Imperium. The only reason I can see for the ancient looking marines is if they were trying to map the faces of the actors as John Hurt and Terence Stamp both have rather sunken faces. If they had made the characters look more like the actors as they did in the Beowulf movie it would have been far more acceptable as I admire both actors. John Hurt was the original victim of the chest burster in Alien so he could be seen as the biological father of the Tyranid race ;-) and Terence Stamp was Zod in Superman 2 as well as being a right rascal in his younger years.

Just saw the trailer for the first time.

I have to admit - I'm a fan of animated movies (Shrek, Wall-E, How to Tame Your Dragon, Up, etc). In comparison, the movie trailer seems like a cut-scene from a video game. It has good enough animation to be a video game cutscene, but hardly impresses itself as a movie trailer. The animation isn't *that* good, the limited voice acting that I got to hear was disconnected from the character, and I'm overall less than impressed that this is going to be a feature film.

Well, it is a direct to DVD film, so lowered expectations abound already!

I've only seen the trailer but don't we see only one guy, the main character I assume, so he can be a grizzled veteran a few centuries old while his company is more of the younger marines we're used to. Mind you I'm not thrilled with some of what we've seen, I was far more captivated and thrilled with the Space Marine game trailer than this but hey I'm willing to give it a shot.

Compel wrote:I managed to pick out a decent amount of the storyline from the trailer, well, along with wasting far too many hours reading tvtropes.

You FOOL! You have doomed us all! Quick, run befo- Ooh, they updated the article on High Octane Nightmare Fuel...

Maybe its just me but after watching the trailers and looking at the screen caps. I thought "Oh Hey its Star Craft 1"

I probably wont watch this, or I'll be drinking when I do. One things for sure they aren't getting my money for it.

BrotherStynier wrote:Maybe its just me but after watching the trailers and looking at the screen caps. I thought "Oh Hey its Star Craft 1"

I probably wont watch this, or I'll be drinking when I do. One things for sure they aren't getting my money for it.

I will buy the beer...

The graphics I do think are quite sub-par... i died a little bit when I first saw them.

I have a bad feeling this might be a movie that not even a fanboy could love. I hope WI am wrong