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Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:Don't do it anymore, Milkdog.

You're being used!

I know Monster Pain, that's why I'm not hanging out with her for a few weeks, talking to her less and until I have a new approach to the relationship.

Just be honest and tell he exactly what you're thinking.

If she goes for it, good. If not, it's time to look at some new prospects! Insert a cliche here about fish in the sea being plentiful or something like that. And don't forget to blame the victim.


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syanticraven wrote:Wait wait wait. A cuddle bitch?

Na na na, this does not happen to ma man! You tell her you want a serious relationship with a contract that allows for at least 1 threesome on a special birthday!

The trick is to find a girl with whom you don't need a special occasion for this type of activity.

But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her

emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner. By keeping my real thoughts about her to myself I create an element of mystery and excitement that is lacking with my friendship, men who keep women guessing usually are

more interesting. Anyways I plan on writing my game plan out tonight combining the best advice from various sites, DakkaDakka and what would work best for me and my predicament also after it's written I would like to have some constructive

criticism on it so I can make it as effective as plausible.

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

I agree 100% Monster Rain, MilkDog is going to stay firmly trapped in the friend zone unless he makes it clear he wants to take the relationship in "new directions".

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

That will get you more hugs.

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

It seems like you already know what her clearly defined boundaries are concerning the touch barrier, my man.

Stating your intentions also less awkward than grabbing her somewhere in her "bikini area" and being rebuffed, at least with someone you want to have a real relationship with. If it's some pig you picked up in a bar or something, there's a whole different set of social conventions.

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

It seems like you already know what her clearly defined boundaries are concerning the touch barrier, my man.

Stating your intentions also less awkward than grabbing her somewhere in her "bikini area" and being rebuffed, at least with someone you want to have a real relationship with. If it's some pig you picked up in a bar or something, there's a whole different set of social conventions.

I don't grab the "bikini area" I usually just pet her hair, squeeze her toes, rub my finger across the brow, hugs, snuggling, cuddling, pat on the back, rub the arm, etc generally pretty tame stuff. But like I said it has pretty mixed results one

moment she looks like she's having fun, the next she looks like a nervous wreck or a hissing cat. Also she's not afraid to touch me and probably prefers it when she's in control of the "touch barrier" my reactions were at first awkward,

nervous and my body would stiffen (reactions I would sometimes notice on her) when being touched, but now that I'm used to it I let my muscles loosen, relax and enjoy the moment.

Cheesecat wrote:

I don't grab the "bikini area" I usually just pet her hair, squeeze her toes, rub my finger across the brow, hugs, snuggling, cuddling, pat on the back, rub the arm, etc generally pretty tame stuff. But like I said it has pretty mixed results one

moment she looks like she's having fun, the next she looks like a nervous wreck or a hissing cat. Also she's not afraid to touch me and probably prefers it when she's in control of the "touch barrier" my reactions were at first awkward,

nervous and my body would stiffen (reactions I would sometimes notice on her) when touching, but now that I'm used to it I let my muscles loosen, relax and enjoy the moment.

Well most girls just let me talk to them and basically protect them from their bastardly sex offenders that they call friends.

Anyway ask her out already. Or else I have to come over there and give you a push into her.

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

It seems like you already know what her clearly defined boundaries are concerning the touch barrier, my man.

Stating your intentions also less awkward than grabbing her somewhere in her "bikini area" and being rebuffed, at least with someone you want to have a real relationship with. If it's some pig you picked up in a bar or something, there's a whole different set of social conventions.

I don't grab the "bikini area" I usually just pet her hair, squeeze her toes, rub my finger across the brow, hugs, snuggling, cuddling, pat on the back, rub the arm, etc generally pretty tame stuff.

Right.

Friend/emotional tampon stuff. You're going to have to step out of your comfort zone to see the promised land, brohemoth.

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

It seems like you already know what her clearly defined boundaries are concerning the touch barrier, my man.

Stating your intentions also less awkward than grabbing her somewhere in her "bikini area" and being rebuffed, at least with someone you want to have a real relationship with. If it's some pig you picked up in a bar or something, there's a whole different set of social conventions.

I don't grab the "bikini area" I usually just pet her hair, squeeze her toes, rub my finger across the brow, hugs, snuggling, cuddling, pat on the back, rub the arm, etc generally pretty tame stuff.

Right.

Friend/emotional tampon stuff. You're going to have to step out of your comfort zone to see the promised land, brohemoth.

The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

It seems like you already know what her clearly defined boundaries are concerning the touch barrier, my man.

Stating your intentions also less awkward than grabbing her somewhere in her "bikini area" and being rebuffed, at least with someone you want to have a real relationship with. If it's some pig you picked up in a bar or something, there's a whole different set of social conventions.

I don't grab the "bikini area" I usually just pet her hair, squeeze her toes, rub my finger across the brow, hugs, snuggling, cuddling, pat on the back, rub the arm, etc generally pretty tame stuff.

Right.

Friend/emotional tampon stuff. You're going to have to step out of your comfort zone to see the promised land, brohemoth.

The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

Well maybe this is just because I am a badass with knives. Impress with a thing that people don't even know that is a really good talent. Like your painting skills.

Cheesecat wrote:The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

That's why I'm telling you that you should tell her that you'd like to change the parameters of your relationship before you try any of that. This individual seems to have a few hang-ups with physicality, maybe in general or maybe just with you (not saying that to be a dick, it's just something to consider), so I think that in this particular case it would be better to lay things out and let her make a decision.

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

That's why I'm telling you that you should tell her that you'd like to change the parameters of your relationship before you try any of that. This individual seems to have a few hang-ups with physicality, maybe in general or maybe just with you (not saying that to be a dick, it's just something to consider), so I think that in this particular case it would be better to lay things out and let her make a decision.

It probably doesn't help that whenever I raise my arm to touch her, it feels as heavy as lead and probably just as comfortably to feel although there's been a few occasions where it's gone over smoothly.

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

That's why I'm telling you that you should tell her that you'd like to change the parameters of your relationship before you try any of that. This individual seems to have a few hang-ups with physicality, maybe in general or maybe just with you (not saying that to be a dick, it's just something to consider), so I think that in this particular case it would be better to lay things out and let her make a decision.

It probably doesn't help that whenever I raise my arm to touch her, it feels as heavy as lead and probably just as comfortably to feel although there's been a few occasions where it's gone over smoothly.

Here's what you should do.

Get off the computer, call her and have her meet you somewhere for a coffee or a glass of maple syrup or whatever it is you Canadians drink for casual encounters. Tell her what's up! Heresy grows from idleness!

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

That's why I'm telling you that you should tell her that you'd like to change the parameters of your relationship before you try any of that. This individual seems to have a few hang-ups with physicality, maybe in general or maybe just with you (not saying that to be a dick, it's just something to consider), so I think that in this particular case it would be better to lay things out and let her make a decision.

It probably doesn't help that whenever I raise my arm to touch her, it feels as heavy as lead and probably just as comfortably to feel although there's been a few occasions where it's gone over smoothly.

Here's what you should do.

Get off the computer, call her and have her meet you somewhere for a coffee or a glass of maple syrup or whatever it is you Canadians drink for casual encounters. Tell her what's up! Heresy grows from idleness!

I'm hanging out with Shadowbrand today. Also I don't drink coffee and she hardly does either.

Ask Shadowbrand XD

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

That's why I'm telling you that you should tell her that you'd like to change the parameters of your relationship before you try any of that. This individual seems to have a few hang-ups with physicality, maybe in general or maybe just with you (not saying that to be a dick, it's just something to consider), so I think that in this particular case it would be better to lay things out and let her make a decision.

It probably doesn't help that whenever I raise my arm to touch her, it feels as heavy as lead and probably just as comfortably to feel although there's been a few occasions where it's gone over smoothly.

Here's what you should do.

Get off the computer, call her and have her meet you somewhere for a coffee or a glass of maple syrup or whatever it is you Canadians drink for casual encounters. Tell her what's up! Heresy grows from idleness!

I'm hanging out with Shadowbrand today.

If Shadowbrand is a true bro, which I know he is, he wouldn't mind you ducking out for a few minutes to meet up with a potential new GF. Surely there's a Tim Horton's nearby where you could get this done. Don't make excuses, man! Engage!

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:The thing is if she gets uncomfortable with even the sissy stuff, how am I supposed to impress her with more elaborate stuff (kissing, making-out, hickeys, raspberries, etc...)?

That's why I'm telling you that you should tell her that you'd like to change the parameters of your relationship before you try any of that. This individual seems to have a few hang-ups with physicality, maybe in general or maybe just with you (not saying that to be a dick, it's just something to consider), so I think that in this particular case it would be better to lay things out and let her make a decision.

It probably doesn't help that whenever I raise my arm to touch her, it feels as heavy as lead and probably just as comfortably to feel although there's been a few occasions where it's gone over smoothly.

Here's what you should do.

Get off the computer, call her and have her meet you somewhere for a coffee or a glass of maple syrup or whatever it is you Canadians drink for casual encounters. Tell her what's up! Heresy grows from idleness!

I'm hanging out with Shadowbrand today.

If Shadowbrand is a true bro, which I know he is, he wouldn't mind you ducking out for a few minutes to meet up with a potential new GF. Surely there's a Tim Horton's nearby where you could get this done. Don't make excuses, man! Engage!

You act like I don't spend time with her outside of school, I just watched a movie with her this week. Plus Saturday is the only day he's available.

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:

Cheesecat wrote:
But showing your feelings is one of the best ways to get yourself firmly planted in the "Friend-Zone" because you're being honest with her she feels she can trust you, can predict your emotions better and has someone she can share her emotions with, not someone she views as romantic/sexual partner.

Telling her specifically that you want to be more than friends and that the current arrangement doesn't work for you anymore would do a lot to change your situation.

Yeah but there's other ways of showing that you want more out of a relation other than talking about it, such as breaking the touch barrier.

It seems like you already know what her clearly defined boundaries are concerning the touch barrier, my man.

Stating your intentions also less awkward than grabbing her somewhere in her "bikini area" and being rebuffed, at least with someone you want to have a real relationship with. If it's some pig you picked up in a bar or something, there's a whole different set of social conventions.

I don't grab the "bikini area" I usually just pet her hair, squeeze her toes, rub my finger across the brow, hugs, snuggling, cuddling, pat on the back, rub the arm, etc generally pretty tame stuff. But like I said it has pretty mixed results one

moment she looks like she's having fun, the next she looks like a nervous wreck or a hissing cat. Also she's not afraid to touch me and probably prefers it when she's in control of the "touch barrier" my reactions were at first awkward,

nervous and my body would stiffen (reactions I would sometimes notice on her) when being touched, but now that I'm used to it I let my muscles loosen, relax and enjoy the moment.

Dude,you're done. It's not going to happen. Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

The reason she doesn't like it when you make contact with her is because she perceives it as an unwanted sexual advance,and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't like you that way. She likes you as a friend,but simply isn't attracted to you in that way. You've asked her out multiple times and put your feelings out there. If she wanted you,she'd be with you. You can try different psychological techniques,like keeping your distance,to essentially try and manipulate her into hooking up with you,but that kind of relationship simply isn't going to last. It's pretty much the equivalent of showing up at her place with some alcohol and hoping something happens. It will not turn into a relationship built on mutual feelings and attraction. It will be a relationship built on manipulation,and that's not healthy for either of you.

Best thing to do is move on. Probably isn't what you want to hear,but you're wasting too much time and energy on something that simply isn't meant to be.

Whatever1 wrote:

Dude,you're done. It's not going to happen. Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

The reason she doesn't like it when you make contact with her is because she perceives it as an unwanted sexual advance,and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't like you that way. She likes you as a friend,but simply isn't attracted to you in that way. You've asked her out multiple times and put your feelings out there. If she wanted you,she'd be with you. You can try different psychological techniques,like keeping your distance,to essentially try and manipulate her into hooking up with you,but that kind of relationship simply isn't going to last. It's pretty much the equivalent of showing up at her place with some alcohol and hoping something happens. It will not turn into a relationship built on mutual feelings and attraction. It will be a relationship built on manipulation,and that's not healthy for either of you.

Best thing to do is move on. Probably isn't what you want to hear,but you're wasting too much time and energy on something that simply isn't meant to be.

Wow great encouragement. You better not of broken Cheese Cat. D:
why is it when we have a psychiatrist? They always like destroy your way of life on dakkadakka?

Asherian Command wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:

Dude,you're done. It's not going to happen. Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

The reason she doesn't like it when you make contact with her is because she perceives it as an unwanted sexual advance,and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't like you that way. She likes you as a friend,but simply isn't attracted to you in that way. You've asked her out multiple times and put your feelings out there. If she wanted you,she'd be with you. You can try different psychological techniques,like keeping your distance,to essentially try and manipulate her into hooking up with you,but that kind of relationship simply isn't going to last. It's pretty much the equivalent of showing up at her place with some alcohol and hoping something happens. It will not turn into a relationship built on mutual feelings and attraction. It will be a relationship built on manipulation,and that's not healthy for either of you.

Best thing to do is move on. Probably isn't what you want to hear,but you're wasting too much time and energy on something that simply isn't meant to be.

Wow great encouragement. You better not of broken Cheese Cat. D:
why is it when we have a psychiatrist? They always like destroy your way of life on dakkadakka?

Don't worry I've been taking some of the advice on this thread, with a grain of salt. Besides it's not like I don't have experience in losing her.

Asherian Command wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:

Dude,you're done. It's not going to happen. Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

The reason she doesn't like it when you make contact with her is because she perceives it as an unwanted sexual advance,and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't like you that way. She likes you as a friend,but simply isn't attracted to you in that way. You've asked her out multiple times and put your feelings out there. If she wanted you,she'd be with you. You can try different psychological techniques,like keeping your distance,to essentially try and manipulate her into hooking up with you,but that kind of relationship simply isn't going to last. It's pretty much the equivalent of showing up at her place with some alcohol and hoping something happens. It will not turn into a relationship built on mutual feelings and attraction. It will be a relationship built on manipulation,and that's not healthy for either of you.

Best thing to do is move on. Probably isn't what you want to hear,but you're wasting too much time and energy on something that simply isn't meant to be.

Wow great encouragement. You better not of broken Cheese Cat. D:
why is it when we have a psychiatrist? They always like destroy your way of life on dakkadakka?

Not trying to "break" anybody,but it just seems like Cheese Cat is in a state of denial and refusing to accept the situation. This is real life,not a John Hughes movie where all the ignored guy friend has to do is come clean with his feelings and the girl will instantly fall in love with him and they'll live happilly ever after. Cheese Cat already admits that he has a lot more stress in his life when he's dealing with this girl,which is a good sign that it's simply not a good situation for him. Obviously,if he continues to pursue this,then I hope I'm wrong,but there's no since in him beating his head against a brick wall,either.

Whatever1 wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:

Dude,you're done. It's not going to happen. Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

The reason she doesn't like it when you make contact with her is because she perceives it as an unwanted sexual advance,and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't like you that way. She likes you as a friend,but simply isn't attracted to you in that way. You've asked her out multiple times and put your feelings out there. If she wanted you,she'd be with you. You can try different psychological techniques,like keeping your distance,to essentially try and manipulate her into hooking up with you,but that kind of relationship simply isn't going to last. It's pretty much the equivalent of showing up at her place with some alcohol and hoping something happens. It will not turn into a relationship built on mutual feelings and attraction. It will be a relationship built on manipulation,and that's not healthy for either of you.

Best thing to do is move on. Probably isn't what you want to hear,but you're wasting too much time and energy on something that simply isn't meant to be.

Wow great encouragement. You better not of broken Cheese Cat. D:
why is it when we have a psychiatrist? They always like destroy your way of life on dakkadakka?

Not trying to "break" anybody,but it just seems like Cheese Cat is in a state of denial and refusing to accept the situation. This is real life,not a John Hughes movie where all the ignored guy friend has to do is come clean with his feelings and the girl will instantly fall in love with him and they'll live happilly ever after. Cheese Cat already admits that he has a lot more stress in his life when he's dealing with this girl,which is a good sign that it's simply not a good situation for him. Obviously,if he continues to pursue this,then I hope I'm wrong,but there's no since in him beating his head against a brick wall,either.

Just seemed cold hearted to me. Of course I do over protect people even if they get a paper cut....
So I can really talk about this issue. Anyway. Cheese Cat its your choice. You can take the blue pill and go further down the rabbit hole or take the red pill and go back to normal and ignore the girl.

Didn't seem cold-hearted to me, though I believe he's got a slim shot and agree "coming clean" will accomplish jack since he's already done it. You want her to want you. If she doesn't want you then your affections are wasted. Something to consider realistically, I have no idea what you or she looks like, but you may not be her type and there's nothing you can do about that except dissappear and come back as her type.

Cannerus_The_Unbearable wrote:Didn't seem cold-hearted to me, though I believe he's got a slim shot and agree "coming clean" will accomplish jack since he's already done it. You want her to want you. If she doesn't want you then your affections are wasted. Something to consider realistically, I have no idea what you or she looks like, but you may not be her type and there's nothing you can do about that except dissappear and come back as her type.

Suprisingly the last bit helps me tremendously out of the binds i Am in the moment.

Cannerus knows his stuff as of late, anyway. If anyone wants more... "personal" advice of any kind, feel free to PM me. I likely have an anecdote to throw in with it.

I would like to point out that I'm not trying to say that if he makes his position clear that she'll fall into his arms and they'll be married next spring. If you think that I am, you should seriously re-read my posts on the subject.

It's just what needs to be done to move things forward, regardless of the outcome.

Whatever1 wrote:

Asherian Command wrote:

Whatever1 wrote:

Dude,you're done. It's not going to happen. Never was going to happen. Never will happen.

The reason she doesn't like it when you make contact with her is because she perceives it as an unwanted sexual advance,and it's pretty obvious that she doesn't like you that way. She likes you as a friend,but simply isn't attracted to you in that way. You've asked her out multiple times and put your feelings out there. If she wanted you,she'd be with you. You can try different psychological techniques,like keeping your distance,to essentially try and manipulate her into hooking up with you,but that kind of relationship simply isn't going to last. It's pretty much the equivalent of showing up at her place with some alcohol and hoping something happens. It will not turn into a relationship built on mutual feelings and attraction. It will be a relationship built on manipulation,and that's not healthy for either of you.

Best thing to do is move on. Probably isn't what you want to hear,but you're wasting too much time and energy on something that simply isn't meant to be.

Wow great encouragement. You better not of broken Cheese Cat. D:
why is it when we have a psychiatrist? They always like destroy your way of life on dakkadakka?

Not trying to "break" anybody,but it just seems like Cheese Cat is in a state of denial and refusing to accept the situation. This is real life,not a John Hughes movie where all the ignored guy friend has to do is come clean with his feelings and the girl will instantly fall in love with him and they'll live happilly ever after. Cheese Cat already admits that he has a lot more stress in his life when he's dealing with this girl,which is a good sign that it's simply not a good situation for him. Obviously,if he continues to pursue this,then I hope I'm wrong,but there's no since in him beating his head against a brick wall,either.

That's a misconception I'm actually not that stressed out, I'm just trying to make the decision that will help me get what I want most but with all this advice (some good, some bad) that at times contradicts itself I'm feeling a little directionless.

Now if I had last years mindset then yeah I would be probably be having a stress meltdown.


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Monster Rain wrote:I would like to point out that I'm not trying to say that if he makes his position clear that she'll fall into his arms and they'll be married next spring. If you think that I am, you should seriously re-read my posts on the subject.

It's just what needs to be done to move things forward, regardless of the outcome.

Unfortunately your advice contradicts Cannerus's and I've found both your guys advice helpful, but I don't know which is a better choice.

Cheesecat wrote:

Monster Rain wrote:I would like to point out that I'm not trying to say that if he makes his position clear that she'll fall into his arms and they'll be married next spring. If you think that I am, you should seriously re-read my posts on the subject.

It's just what needs to be done to move things forward, regardless of the outcome.

Unfortunately your advice contradicts Cannerus's and I've found both your guys advice helpful, but I don't know which is a better choice.

I'm trying to figure out what Cannerus's advice actually is.